What would you choose out of these?

[Tanay]

Hi everyone,

I am considering these two speakers for my 4 height channels. The idea is to suspend a pair from the ceiling (concrete, can't drill holes) and another pair either further ahead in the ceiling (TM/TF or TR/TF) or high up on the front wall (TM/FH).

Another thought is to go with proper in-ceiling speakers like the Polk RC60i, enclose them in a back box and then suspend them from the ceiling.

For context, my setup consists of Q Acoustics 3020i, 3090ci and 3010i, and the subwoofer is Q Acoustics QB12. And I plan to buy either a Denon X3700H or Marantz SR6015.

Any thoughts on:

1. Which height speakers I should go for?
2. Which assignment might sound better if one pair of height speakers are directly above me and none behind me- TM/FH, TM/TF or TR/TF?
3. Which of the two receivers would be better? My usage is mainly movies (advantage Denon?) but I also don't want a receiver bright enough to fatigue me in my 15x10 room (advantage Marantz?).

Thanks in anticipation!

 

[ankitbhargava]

In my experience, Top Middle and Top Rear have a lot of content to play as against Front height or Rear height.
OR if the layout allows, Surround back + Top Middle.

 

[Tanay]

In my experience, Top Middle and Top Rear have a lot of content to play as against Front height or Rear height.
OR if the layout allows, Surround back + Top Middle.

Noted. I'll have to place a pair directly overhead and assign it either as TM or TR. Can't have any height speakers behind me. So a TM + TR combination isn't possible. Only TM/FH, TM/TF (allowed?) or TR/TF.

 

[GeorgeB]

If your surround is closer to your listening position , My Suggestion is to have the ceiling speaker (TM)to be 3 feet in front from listening position.

 

[fLUX]

Noted. I'll have to place a pair directly overhead and assign it either as TM or TR. Can't have any height speakers behind me. So a TM + TR combination isn't possible. Only TM/FH, TM/TF (allowed?) or TR/TF.

I was having a discussion with a dealer from here, was suggesting to go for angled drivers. I think if you want to install 4 overhead as well it might work for you since with angled drivers they can be installed and pointed to your listening position

 

[Tanay]

If your surround is closer to your listening position , My Suggestion is to have the ceiling speaker (TM)to be 3 feet in front from listening position.

Thanks, but would have been ideal if I were to have only 2 height speakers, but I'm looking at installing 4.

 

[Tanay]

I was having a discussion with a dealer from here, was suggesting to go for angled drivers. I think if you want to install 4 overhead as well it might work for you since with angled drivers they can be installed and pointed to your listening position

I believe the Polk RC60i's have aimable tweeters. The rest in my list don't, AFAIK.

 

[ankitbhargava]

Noted. I'll have to place a pair directly overhead and assign it either as TM or TR. Can't have any height speakers behind me. So a TM + TR combination isn't possible. Only TM/FH, TM/TF (allowed?) or TR/TF.

TM and TR in that case, RC80i also have amiable Tweeters

 

[GeorgeB]

Thanks, but would have been ideal if I were to have only 2 height speakers, but I'm looking at installing 4.

Yes, as other FM’s suggested TM TR will be ideal.

I have attached my atmos speaker on concrete ceiling angling towards the listening position (Image attached)

 

[Tanay]

Yes, as other FM’s suggested TM TR will be ideal.

I have attached my atmos speaker on concrete ceiling angling towards the listening position (Image attached)View attachment 52117

But how can I have TM/TR if one pair is directly overhead and the other way in front, without any behind me?

Going by Dolby placements, the "last" or "rear-est" I can have would be TMs.

What am I missing?

 

[GeorgeB]

But how can I have TM/TR if one pair is directly overhead and the other way in front, without any behind me?

Going by Dolby placements, the "last" or "rear-est" I can have would be TMs.

What am I missing?

Hope this link will help.

https://www.dolby.com/siteassets/technologies/dolby-atmos/atmos-installation-guidelines-121318_r3.1.pdf

 

[liverpool_for_life]

Yes, as other FM’s suggested TM TR will be ideal.

If using 4 speakers for Atmos duties, I don't believe Dolby allows the assignment of 2 adjacent speaker locations. Has to be TF and TR or use one of the front height assignments in conjunction with TM.

 

[Tanay]

If using 4 speakers for Atmos duties, I don't believe Dolby allows the assignment of 2 adjacent speaker locations. Has to be TF and TR or use one of the front height assignments in conjunction with TM.

That's exactly why I mentioned FH/TM and TF/TR (the logic for the latter being that while the speaker will be positioned in the TM location, it will be assigned as TR). That is what I have read as well. It would be helpful if someone with a comparable receiver (Denon 3700/3600 or Marantz 6015/6014) can confirm.

 

[Tanay]

Hope this link will help.

https://www.dolby.com/siteassets/technologies/dolby-atmos/atmos-installation-guidelines-121318_r3.1.pdf

Thanks, I've read this. But unfortunately these guidelines doesn't help answer my specific question.