10 hours AVR usage cost 19K electricity bill

[sakitram]

Hi,

I have Yamaha receiver bought last month. And then after some weeks I bought a Maxine 1K Watts step down transformer. And I used it totally less than 10 hours only so far. Just now got the electricity bill with more than 19K.

I do not understand how it had arouse like this. I do not find any other reason than the usage of AVR and Transformer for this.

Please tell me how it is possible to raise like that or it is just a mistake in the meter reading (I could not understand this digital meter reading as well, as each second different value show so do not know which one tells about the units).

Please help me on this.

Thanks,
Sakitram

 

[pdhanwada]

I dont think the electricity bill is because of the yamaha amp alone. There is something else which is connected to your energy meter which is causing the bill hike. Wattage of Yamaha AMP is 500W. if it runs 24 hours then it will cost you 12 kw it is 12 X 5 rs per KW. = 60 If it runs 30 days, It should cost you Rs. 1800

Probably a neighbours AC is connected to yours without you being aware off.

Please check.

 

[vasishta.sushant]

Your yammy consumes 500W but the step down transformer has its own losses. Assuming 70% efficiency, your consumption would then be nearly 720W.

Still 19K is too much. For sure there are some other devices as well...

 

[CANDUU]

Omg...
I dont doubt your step down or your receiver,it may be the eb meter which may be the culprit,even I doubt a cinema theater consumes 15 k for 10 hrs assuming that your house hold uses 4k/2months.

 

[borg]

yes, absolutely, the max power rating on AVR; doesnot reflect the actual consumption and bulk of the stepdown transformer losses will depend on the avr consumption

you sir got a faulty meter

 

[deba]

Complain to your Electricity Supply Office and let them check your meter and line because sometimes there may be leakage and therefore wastage of electricity can take place

 

[doors666]

if its 500w, then it will consume 500 watts with video processing on (not much for this) and all 7 channels being driven at full volume, thats when it will use full 500w capacity. If you are listening at normal volume, it will be some 30-40w per channel max (very rough figurel, depends upon a lot of things like speaker efficiency etc). With this kind of usage, you wont get a bill of 19k even if you use it 24 hours for an year

 

[sivakuru]

Like others have mentioned, it definitely is not because of your AVR or stepdown. I have been using AVR + stepdown for 6 years now and the stepdown had been always on, never had a bill more than 2 - 4 k (summer) per month till date. Something else is causing the problem and in this case 99% should be the faulty meter.

 

[sakitram]

Thank you all for directing me to the right direction.

As you all said that the fault could be in meter or with the person who took the reading.
I see that meter reading person two times charged for the same last month electricity usage. First time with 1274 units and then in the second time 66 units. I guess that he did something wrong in the first time charging and then corrected in the second time. So I guess I am being billed for 66 units for last month.

Though still I am not sure about it, because as it is a digital meter, manual input is not possible with the instrument that reads the meter.
Therefore I raised a complaint for this and requested for the revision of my last month usage charge by email. If there is no reply, I will approach them in this weekend.

Usually, I get month electricity usage is lesser than 55 units.
And also so far I used the AVR only for audio listening with only headphone as I yet to buy speakers for it.

Hope there would be no hinder regarding this anymore.

Thanks once again everybody.

Sakitram

 

[jravich]

I use yamaha with servo stabilier, almost average 5 hrs daily with all electronic and electrical items... still it does not go beyond 1K a month.. Meter must be faulty or there must be some leakage... Check it out with good electrician..

 

[vin_eme]

This is the very simple reason i dont trust the EB energy meters i have installed OWL wireless energy monitor. Which gives me how much units have been consumed and how much power each device consumes. Using it for more than a month and the EB meter and energy monitor values more or less match. I reckon my EB meter works normal without any major deviations.

 

[theironhorse]

19k .. u sure... that's like an insane figure.. .and no way in the world the amp /avr with a transformer can do that... wow.. looks like you meter was on fire 24x7..

m sure some one's consming you electricity else so mistake by the electricity company guy...

 

[vivek.saikia]

Just check if someone is not charging their "Reva" using your connection!!

This actually happened in my earlier apartment where a person used to charge his Reva electric car from another's meter connection.
A lot more than just heated argument was imminent once the racket was burst.

 

[entsurgeon]

first thing... 19k rs is too much. forget avr,you cant possibly consume that much electricity unless you hosted marriage in your resort type home. period.
your electricity bill has serial wise readings for past 5 mths as well as the current reading. check. serialize your bill and see if the current reading is little over your bill statement. ( because since your meter was read, some units have been consumed by you until today.)
i doubt that the reading would be faulty.
so 2 possibilities arise:
1. your meter is incorrect and has shown faulty reading:
in this case you have to go to your eb office and submit an application stating a cause. they will change your meter and send this current one to a third party lab. nominal charges apply and they check the accuracy of meter. if the meter is at fault, the access amount is adjusted in further bills. if not, you have to pay them and find out which of the already mentioned causes lead to rise in electric consumption.... this also brings us to the second scene:
2: your meter readings are faulty and are not matching the billed reading: this can be adjusted easily by the concerned eb staff at no extra cost.
i would like to add that sometimes, electric wastage causes increased consumption when the power line gets earthed and in effect keeps drawing current from your mains thereby consuming useful and costly watts that are simply going down the drain.
chances are , for a regular bills of 5-6k, your bill has suddenly increased by 13k and that means 2600 units approx has been lost. bring a good electrician to seee. also check if some wall surface or conduit of your house is continuously heated up.
especially check for faults around yous ht and transformer connection.
that reva charging thing is also feasible. if you live in a flat, your meter could have been wrongly attributed when its actually someone else' meter. easy way to check is by switching your eb meter off and see if your flats supply is still intact. if it is, its not your meter altogether.
i guess , drained watts must be responsible in your case instead of malice. also whatever it is, high chances that it has sopmething to do with your new ht installation.
ps: no guarentee that not using ht will make things normal.

 

[pannags]

This is the very simple reason i dont trust the EB energy meters i have installed OWL wireless energy monitor. Which gives me how much units have been consumed and how much power each device consumes. Using it for more than a month and the EB meter and energy monitor values more or less match. I reckon my EB meter works normal without any major deviations.

Well! I've been using my Onkyo TX-SR608 in my new place and the difference in bill after plugging in the AVR with a daily average use of 3-4 hours (with only the front speakers and for DVDp and cable-STB TV viewing) is about Rs. 800.

@vin_eme: I thought this concept is prevalent mostly in the western world?! Is OWL also sold in India? and if so, where did you buy it and how much did it cost you? It would be good to have a device that warns you of a geyser running or AC turned on - without a real need i.e.

Thanks and cheers,
Pannags

 

[kaushik]

some nasty house owners are here in bangalore ,
they cheat people by connecting appliances to the tenants line .
hehe ..diy trick : keep a extra meter at your room , check main meter for units
you will know ...

i use a step down tr for LED panel ..does not give me any high bills .

Also stop buying 1 KVa kind of step downs(AV maniacs) if not needed , they waste some energy .

 

[onkars]

Hi,

I have Yamaha receiver bought last month. And then after some weeks I bought a Maxine 1K Watts step down transformer. And I used it totally less than 10 hours only so far. Just now got the electricity bill with more than 19K.

I do not understand how it had arouse like this. I do not find any other reason than the usage of AVR and Transformer for this.

Please tell me how it is possible to raise like that or it is just a mistake in the meter reading (I could not understand this digital meter reading as well, as each second different value show so do not know which one tells about the units).

Please help me on this.

Thanks,
Sakitram

[Hi, can you tell me how much you paid for the maxine converter? They don't have dealers in Bangalore but I got a reference from Shah Brothers of someone in Bangalore who could get it for me. He is charging 1700/- for the 500Watts, so wanted to check i if am paying more. Good thing is he will deliver at my workplace.]

 

[vin_eme]

Well! I've been using my Onkyo TX-SR608 in my new place and the difference in bill after plugging in the AVR with a daily average use of 3-4 hours (with only the front speakers and for DVDp and cable-STB TV viewing) is about Rs. 800.

@vin_eme: I thought this concept is prevalent mostly in the western world?! Is OWL also sold in India? and if so, where did you buy it and how much did it cost you? It would be good to have a device that warns you of a geyser running or AC turned on - without a real need i.e.

Thanks and cheers,
Pannags

Hi Pannags,

i got this from ebay UK. It came to around 60 pounds. Only problem is While fixing the sensor you need to play around with the input electricity leads coming to the home. Once done its an excellent device which tells you you real time how much of power is being used [Kwh].

cheers,
Vince

 

[pannags]

Hi Pannags,

i got this from ebay UK. It came to around 60 pounds. Only problem is While fixing the sensor you need to play around with the input electricity leads coming to the home. Once done its an excellent device which tells you you real time how much of power is being used [Kwh].

cheers,
Vince

Thanks very much Vince

I will do some reading on the setup. The only challenge for me is that I live in an apartment and hence not very sure if its feasible to install the sensor. Anyway, I will give the idea a shot.

Thanks again,
Pannags

 

[akd]

it doesn't make sense, something is fishy, lodge a complaint, assuming the transformer and AVR are perfect and working as they are supposed to, lodge a complaint and see the meter reading

check the reading of your meter on 24 hours basis