Best ever deal for loudspeaker kits.

IMHO, the way the dimensions have been written in the plan is fairly confusing. My understanding of the correct way of writing fractions of an inch is to use X-a/b type of notation, and NOT decimal points to indicate fractions.

Maybe Magma and Flash can throw some light on this as they have actually cut the planks (I think).

Courtesy this post and replies to my post on the other forum, Ive figured out the calculations.

The bugger's workmanship is fabulous and saw his creations first hand; hence he is too busy. I've coaxed him to take up the work and realised that patience is a good virtue and will pull off this build off, come what may.
 
IMHO, the way the dimensions have been written in the plan is fairly confusing. My understanding of the correct way of writing fractions of an inch is to use X-a/b type of notation, and NOT decimal points to indicate fractions.

Maybe Magma and Flash can throw some light on this as they have actually cut the planks (I think).

yes only some nitwits use decimals for inches
Inches is always denoted in fractions after a whole number

conversion is like this

if denotion is 5.23"
conversion in mm is 5.23*25.4

if denotion is say
51/8 "
conversion in mm is
5 + 0.125
= 5.125 *25.5
 
Guys,

Posting from CCTL via my notebook tethered to my phone. Apparently they raised a hue and cry stating that the consignment doesn't match what is written on the invoice and listed in the packing note. No amount of convincing by the clearing agent appealed to him. I was called in as a final resort.

In-charge of the CCTL had usual routine instructions from the Customs Commissioner to tally the invoice and packing note with that of the contents of the pallets and thus the empasse. I had a strategy and took a day off. I took my notebook and tethered it to my mobile. Took the whole thing to him and showed him our forum, the Audio Circle forum and GR Research website.

He had a few issues: -

1. The consignee is me whereas the pallets had some other names.
2. What is written in the packing note is not tallying with the items located in the pallet.

The very first packet opened was that of Jaybe who had imported the V2 kit. When his package was opened, they found the PEQ 370 plate amp which is not listed in the packing note at all. I have shown him what all comprises of V2. I have shown him the AC thread on the loudspeakers. I have shown him the X-LS Encore kit. He wanted to check the cost listed thereat with that mentioned in the packing note. I have explained that the amount would be less because Danny gave us discount.

Eventually he was convinced. There is a big crowd comprising of the representatives of Clearing agents. I'm seated in the waiting area awaiting the in-charge to pass necessary instructions to his sub-ordinate to process the papers for clearing the goods. I've taken a pic of the pallet which I'll post in the evening. We should be able to lay our hands on the kits either today or latest by 16th.

P.S: I saw a number of exotic bikes gathering dust. They have appearently not been released for some reason or other. One is BMW shaft drive motorbike. Will post pic later as the net is working very slowly.
 
Capt,
Now you know where to head if you need a different line of work: that of a Customs Clearing agent :lol::lol::lol:

Thank you for taking these extreme efforts. I know that the fruit will be sweet.
 
Many thanks Captain for all your efforts. Without such wonderful help from people like you, novices (both in terms of HIFI and importing stuff) like me would never have had any hope. :clapping:
 
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In-charge of the CCTL had usual routine instructions from the Customs Commissioner to tally the invoice and packing note with that of the contents of the pallets and thus the empasse. I had a strategy and took a day off. I took my notebook and tethered it to my mobile. Took the whole thing to him and showed him our forum, the Audio Circle forum and GR Research website.
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We can only hope you haven't converted the poor sod into an audiophile :ohyeah:
 
Guys,


1. The consignee is me whereas the pallets had some other names.
2. What is written in the packing note is not tallying with the items located in the pallet.

The very first packet opened was that of Jaybe who had imported the V2 kit. When his package was opened, they found the PEQ 370 plate amp which is not listed in the packing note at all. I have shown him what all comprises of V2.
I'm seated in the waiting area awaiting the in-charge to pass necessary instructions to his sub-ordinate to process the papers for clearing the goods. I've taken a pic of the pallet which I'll post in the evening. We should be able to lay our hands on the kits either today or latest by 16th.

Captain,

Great job ! Thanks for your perseverance to clear the last hurdle.

Jayant
 
I'm seated in the waiting area awaiting the in-charge to pass necessary instructions to his sub-ordinate to process the papers for clearing the goods.

There is a saying, "Man proposes and God disposes" In our case, this can be rephrased as 'Importer proposes and Customs official disposes'

Don't hold your breath, all is well that ends well and it ended well. Well, in the end, it ended well.:) As it transpired, the last paragraph of the customs saga was yet to be written.

First, the preamble.

The entire CCTL is manned by a very few customs officials who man key posts. I could only see three of them.

1. Appraisal Officer (AO) - Senior most (At least in this place. I referred to him in my previous post as "In-charge" I'm not sure of this anymore)

2. Inspection Officer (IO) - The man in the lime light in our case, protagonist (or villain) depending on one's perspective or which side of fence are you in.

3. Prevention Officer (PO) - Sits in the adjacent cabin. Don't know his his role but going by the number of people crowding him, appears to be a much less prominent. (In fact there was no crowd around him. Seen loitering around)

There may be more but since I could see no more cabins, I assume that all others may be junior level officials.

Main story:

After whiling away my time browsing the net for about half an hour, it appears that the main character appears. Our shipping agent's rep appearing to be demoralised, comes to say that the inspection officer has summoned me. Sensing something amiss, I go in.

In my first letter to the Customs Commissioner, to strengthen our case (as presumed by me) I had stated that most of the drivers are sourced from India.

He asks "Is it so? Can you prove it?"

I reply in affirmative.

Oh, he says, in that case, are they labelled accordingly?

I'm a little perplexed and say, I don't know. I remembered that in the second pallet, I saw one box labelled with the name of our FM Jls001 and that he ordered X-LS kits, the drivers of which are sourced from Peerless. He appeared sure that they won't be labelled as "Made India" FWIW, we then go and check the package. To my utter dismay, I found no markings whatsoever. I go back and mutter sheepishly that no such label was found.:o "Without the label, how can you claim that these are of Indian origin?" he fumes. I have no option than saying "though I can eventually prove that the drivers mentioned are of Indian origin, I agree that I can't prove it right away"

There you go he says, sensing blood. He adds, "the whole transaction is "humbuk" and referred to some other import where 'CBI' was investigating. I was a little flustered and said, what is our import got to do with CBI, there is no fraud involved, no under invoicing, no prohibited goods but just mere speaker parts. He says he can't waste his time explaining it and gestures to our Clearing agent to explain to me.

He processes some papers and then goes out for "Inspecting" those consignments, leaving us stranded for 20 minutes.

He comes back and processes some more papers. After sometime, he looks up and says, "Ok I agree with you about the origin, the cost and the genuineness of our case." and explains in the same breath that in the other case, some one imported something on behalf of some four other guys and the whole thing was a big fraud.

I had to reiterate that all the parties involved are law abiding citizens and that the whole thing has prior approval of the Additional Commissioner of Customs who has permitted this. "Who is he to permit, is he a guru? I can get even him fixed" he retorted.

I've realised that I have to play up to his antics than a confrontational note and put up a face of reconciliation; as per the advise of the shipping agent, I have stated that irrespective of the origins of the goods, I'm paying all duties and levies.

His antics continue; "OK you are in a Bank; I come and take a 'Education Loan' and use the funds for lending; will you permit?" I can't figure out what the correlation is but play up by saying, Oh yeah you have a point and say, "OK now what do we do"

He then probably realises that I was standing all the while. Orders a chair for me to sit and his monologue continues: "Sir, you were a Class one Gazetted officer of Army and here you are, standing in front of me with crossed hands. Why do you do all this"

I did not understand what his whole point of trying to belittle me, whether it is because of the fact that the AO had offered me a chair the moment I came in and shooed away others or anything else but keeping in mind the repercussions, I said, "Ok sir, this will definitely not happen again; please help us somehow"

Upon me stating that, he signals the rep of our clearing agents to present our papers and signs them. But the time is 1930 and the process of clearing the consignment can only happen on the next working day i.e. 16th August. That has ended (hopefully) the customs saga.

In the hindsight, I have no hesitation in believing that I couldn't pull this whole thing off but for the prefix that is affixed to my name. I'm not going to make another effort, come what may; PERIOD.

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Captn..

It is common this the only word all customs officers expect" I said, "Ok sir, this will definitely not happen again; please help us somehow"".

This was the same happened to me for clearance of my HDDVD's which was confiscated by EMS Customs... I went several times and give several letter and nothing happens and each time i get an another notice with some reason and the Supt avoided me seeing everytime.

After plenty of visits somehow my tongue slipped and told" Ok Sir, i will agree whatever duty you charge and kindly help me" Then he told this is the word i expect from my mouth and he asked to prepare another letter stating the same and the consignment got cleared same day.:p:p
 
Captain,

I dont have any words for the effort you have put in for all of us. Thank you for all the time and effort. I dint think the customs will be such a pain with permissions we had already taken.

Looks like these custom folks will be satisfied only after giving trouble and anxiety.

Thanks
 
In the hindsight, I have no hesitation in believing that I couldn't pull this whole thing off but for the prefix that is affixed to my name.

Morning Folks !

I have been a silent lurker on this thread ever since it was started and have waited with bated breath for the fruitful completion of this bold venture. I had promised myself that I would post my views once this saga ends and today I think that time has come. In fact this venture appears something like a Bollywood movie or to be more exact a long winding TV soap with all emotions thrown in for the khichdi effect- initial excitement, hope, unity, gradual apprehension, impatience, anger, frustration and so on..

This group buy was a representation of society- people with varying temperaments coming together for a common purpose... and what has made it ever more special is how all of you have managed to hang in there- together. There have been anxious times but hope has prevailed.

Folks this group buy is not just about a successful deal but about the conquest of human spirit surmounting all odds. All of you can pat yourself on the back for this unique attempt and as for Capt. Rajesh - take a bow Captain. I know no other man who has shown courage the way you have. It takes a man to exhibit strength in its real form. Most of us would have lost it at one point or the other and given into anger/ frustration/pride but as you rightly said its the Armyman in you that stood up and how ! I wish this forum had a gallantry award on the lines of Ashok Chakra so that one could have been bestowed on you. And a fitting finale that would have been what with it being Aug 15th :)

Folks enjoy the fruits of your labour- you deserve it. Am sure music would have never sounded better than it would coming out of those speakers in a few week's time.

Cheers !
 
Thank you all for your greetings and best wishes. We will be taking delivery of the pallets tomorrow. I had asked the forwarding agent to deliver the pallets at the warehouse of the courier company. Since the boxes are already marked by Danny, it makes their job much easier. Open the pallet and send them across to people. I'll post a document giving out details of the various costs per member.
 
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