audiodelic
Well-Known Member
Monte:
Bose is using yamaha as their receiver ok but how does that affect anything its like saying. "Use bose speakers with classe pre-amps and mcintosh amps." Irrespective the sounds would still suck cos the speakers suck. Who cares about the where and by what the processing is done ?
I study business and we've been taught time and over again. A company sells a well designed product irrespective of brand name. Ethical companies make money through revolutionary products and then establish it as a brand after years of R&D.
There are company's who rely on their product performance first and then marketing which is ethical.
There are other companies who use marketing as a gimmick to fool people into believing the hype, brand value,high price etc. which justifies their purchase and that is BOSE for you.
As i see it:
Bose can be divided into two
Marketing:-(they market well but a hopeless product)
where most of the factors you term come in:-
High WAF(give her some dog ears then probably she'll be able to tell the difference)
Brand Value(Again purely marketing oriented, more money buys you more notion is not always true)
product:-
Sound sucks ( sound might be subjective but if you take majority opinions by comparing it to a similarly priced system in the same price range. you well know the results)
So i think even subjectively majority would prefers others over bose solely for mid range performance since our human ears are sensitive enough in that range.
Localized Bass:-
It is highly localized (although that maybe because of small drivers) it proves to me he could not make decent enough design in my book.
Again im not saying HSU is any better, but just giving you an example. Your all most welcome to bash it ill have counterpoints.
Even HSU has a sub/sat system. Now they have done something smart to deal with the localized bass problem. Even their sat speakers only go down to a particular frequency. They have cleverly designed their center channel in such a way that it disperses bass from that point of the freq. spectrum to 120hz accurately. After which the monster sub woofer takes over giving the audience atleast decent enough reprooduction of the entire frequency response without localized bass.
In a bose system everytime you hear some super deep bass effects you see yourself staring at the subwoofer with its cuffing noises. A subwoofer is supposed to be well integrated with a system your not supposed to be able to tell where just the bass is coming from.
And btw i hate the u.s.a, It is their capitalistic structure because of which bose even achieved this much success by making itself a so called brand name taking end users hard earned cash for $100 worth of shit components in return.
A brand name that stands for marketing, waf but not performance, legacy or anything else. To me Bose is a genius just cos he ripped people off and fooled them nicely not because of innovations, product performance etc.
End of the day. When you take a sound system home you take to listen to it not think about all the boards you saw with a bose advertisement on your way back home.
Marketing, hype, high price matters till the customer buys the product after that for years together realistically only the performance of that product matters. Do your 'ears' a favor take my advice....
Bose is using yamaha as their receiver ok but how does that affect anything its like saying. "Use bose speakers with classe pre-amps and mcintosh amps." Irrespective the sounds would still suck cos the speakers suck. Who cares about the where and by what the processing is done ?
I study business and we've been taught time and over again. A company sells a well designed product irrespective of brand name. Ethical companies make money through revolutionary products and then establish it as a brand after years of R&D.
There are company's who rely on their product performance first and then marketing which is ethical.
There are other companies who use marketing as a gimmick to fool people into believing the hype, brand value,high price etc. which justifies their purchase and that is BOSE for you.
As i see it:
Bose can be divided into two
Marketing:-(they market well but a hopeless product)
where most of the factors you term come in:-
High WAF(give her some dog ears then probably she'll be able to tell the difference)
Brand Value(Again purely marketing oriented, more money buys you more notion is not always true)
product:-
Sound sucks ( sound might be subjective but if you take majority opinions by comparing it to a similarly priced system in the same price range. you well know the results)
So i think even subjectively majority would prefers others over bose solely for mid range performance since our human ears are sensitive enough in that range.
Localized Bass:-
It is highly localized (although that maybe because of small drivers) it proves to me he could not make decent enough design in my book.
Again im not saying HSU is any better, but just giving you an example. Your all most welcome to bash it ill have counterpoints.
Even HSU has a sub/sat system. Now they have done something smart to deal with the localized bass problem. Even their sat speakers only go down to a particular frequency. They have cleverly designed their center channel in such a way that it disperses bass from that point of the freq. spectrum to 120hz accurately. After which the monster sub woofer takes over giving the audience atleast decent enough reprooduction of the entire frequency response without localized bass.
In a bose system everytime you hear some super deep bass effects you see yourself staring at the subwoofer with its cuffing noises. A subwoofer is supposed to be well integrated with a system your not supposed to be able to tell where just the bass is coming from.
And btw i hate the u.s.a, It is their capitalistic structure because of which bose even achieved this much success by making itself a so called brand name taking end users hard earned cash for $100 worth of shit components in return.
A brand name that stands for marketing, waf but not performance, legacy or anything else. To me Bose is a genius just cos he ripped people off and fooled them nicely not because of innovations, product performance etc.
End of the day. When you take a sound system home you take to listen to it not think about all the boards you saw with a bose advertisement on your way back home.
Marketing, hype, high price matters till the customer buys the product after that for years together realistically only the performance of that product matters. Do your 'ears' a favor take my advice....
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