Denon 1610 vs Denon 1910

[sanchits]

I have finalized to go in for denon AVR but i am confused between the 1610 and 1910. i kknow the major differences like video upscaling, more power and 7.1 channels in 1910 but I dont need both. I would be adding a 5.1 speaker setup and I just need to connect a ps3 via hdmi so no need for upscaling. NOw, my main concern is that is there any major difference in sound quality and is that 15w of extra power in 1910 worth spending more. Also what are the latest prices of both in delhi. Is it advisable to buy one from UK, as i would be going there soon and i there is a difference of 8-12k difference in prices of both the avr's. Is it worth spending that much more in india just to get 1 year warranty.
What if i buy one from the grey market, would there be considerable price difference and is it available in the grey market.
the speakers i would be using would be in the range of Wharf 9.6 or jamo 606 HT packages. I would be mainly using it for music and a bit of movies. I need genuine help in deciding and what would be an approximate cost of the denon avr with Wharf and jamo.

 

[KonfuSed]

I don't know what I'm going to say is going to help as it's not exactly a logical point of view. But I was in the similar dilemma few months back and from some of my previous experience I decided to go for the 1910 as I didn't want to have heart burn later. Normally what I would've done if I had bought the 1610 is that I would keep on thinking what is not there on 1610 as compared to 1910. And probably after loosing enough of sleep and at some substantial monetary loss I would end up exchanging to a 1910 by selling the 1610. ;-) So I would say if you have doubt and can afford to spend lil' bit more then go for the 1910.
Ok, this is of no help at all actually, just my usual rants on myself.

 

[spirovious]

1910 can add little more to the sound with ease.It sounds better than 1910 with added features.

 

[idlebrain]

I used both 1610 and 1910. If you are not concerned with 7.1, upscaling 1610 is good player.But if you are interested in musicality what I felt is 1910 has an edge.both 1610 and 1910 is sounded good with Warf. Personally I feel we better have some extra power in AVR.
P.S Remote that comes with 1910 is very good you can use it like an universal remote.

 

[avink]

P.S Remote that comes with 1910 is very good you can use it like an universal remote.

1610 remote can also be used as a universal remote. I bought 1610 recently.

I did consider 1910 but for me the difference in features ( didn't need 7.1 & video upscaling) didn't justify the *good* price difference.

 

[idlebrain]

1610 remote can also be used as a universal remote. I bought 1610 recently.

Ok..I didn't checked that part...I had it for one week only.
Yes If upscaling and 7.1ch doesn't matter 1610 is a good one considering huge price diff.

 

[prash2k01]

plz check for your room size before going for 1910 or 1610.
may be 1610 is much more sufficient compared to 1910.

 

[KonfuSed]

P.S Remote that comes with 1910 is very good you can use it like an universal remote.

Wow, didn't know that, how to program the remote for other equipments(TV, DVDP etc)?

 

[idlebrain]

Wow, didn't know that, how to program the remote for other equipments(TV, DVDP etc)?

Manual has the codes for DVDp/HDP(Blu Ray),TV for all the major brands.You just need to press the codes in the 1910 remote for each mode (DVDp/HDP/TV).Its very easy.

 

[gap g j]

If you have the budget for 1910 then go for it, I have 1610 and I feel it is less powerfull for the wharf.

I have HD ready TV so I don't need upscaling. when I upgrade my TV, I'll upgrade by player also.
7.1 audio sources is very rare even in blu-ray at present
and you have to spend extra bucks for surround speakers and Height speakers(PLIIz).

 

[idlebrain]

If you have the budget for 1910 then go for it, I have 1610 and I feel it is less powerfull for the wharf.

I have HD ready TV so I don't need upscaling. when I upgrade my TV, I'll upgrade by player also.
7.1 audio sources is very rare even in blu-ray at present
and you have to spend extra bucks for surround speakers and Height speakers(PLIIz).

Which Warfs have you paired with 1610?I listened with Warf. Vardus series they sounded decent for movies but for music they are average.
As most of the forum members mentioned in various posts, its always better to have extra power on AVR.

 

[KonfuSed]

Manual has the codes for DVDp/HDP(Blu Ray),TV for all the major brands.You just need to press the codes in the 1910 remote for each mode (DVDp/HDP/TV).Its very easy.

Thanks dude, never knew that the remote is so versatile. Coded in my DVD and TV. Couldn't find code for my Cable STB, it's a humax unit and no code is listed for Humax. But anyway, that's ok as of now.

 

[corElement]

I dont understand the point of "more powerful" that most people are mentioning here because it's a matter of efficiency and directly proportional to speaker impedence and sensitivity. "More powerful" means nothing, the 1610 will drive almost all established industrial standard speakers.

Please understand the relationship between speakers and avr's related with power and wattage before putting aside lower wattage avrs. If 50-60watts is so horrid then harman kardon avr's wouldnt sell, cambridge audio amps wouldnt sell.


The only true audible difference between the 1610 and 1910 is if your speakers have dual binding posts and use the 1910's bi amp feature.

 

[venkatcr]

I dont understand the point of "more powerful" that most people are mentioning here because it's a matter of efficiency and directly proportional to speaker impedence and sensitivity.

You are both correct and incorrect. if you take the same set of speakers and drive them with the 1610 and the 1910, you will see that that 1091 has more authority. This becomes critical in a movie as movies make sudden demands for raw power.

Though impedance and sensitivity matching is important, I would always recommend that one goes for an AVR that has a more powerful engine inside, within, of course, your budget.

It all depends upon the path you follow. If you decide on an AVR first, you must choose your speakers carefully and take one that is easy for the chosen AVR to drive. If you take a AVR with a stated power of 50 watts, and choose speaker that are rated at, say, 40 to 150 watts, the AVR will start gasping very early. You will increase the volume and end up creating distortions.

If you like and choose speakers first, then obviously you have to choose an AVR that has enough juice to drive the choses speakers well.

Cheers

 

[corElement]

You are both correct and incorrect. if you take the same set of speakers and drive them with the 1610 and the 1910, you will see that that 1091 has more authority. This becomes critical in a movie as movies make sudden demands for raw power.

Though impedance and sensitivity matching is important, I would always recommend that one goes for an AVR that has a more powerful engine inside, within, of course, your budget.

It all depends upon the path you follow. If you decide on an AVR first, you must choose your speakers carefully and take one that is easy for the chosen AVR to drive. If you take a AVR with a stated power of 50 watts, and choose speaker that are rated at, say, 40 to 150 watts, the AVR will start gasping very early. You will increase the volume and end up creating distortions.

If you like and choose speakers first, then obviously you have to choose an AVR that has enough juice to drive the choses speakers well.

Cheers

Yep, I completely agree, thats just what I mean by understanding the relationship between components.

 

[gap g j]

Which Warfs have you paired with 1610?I listened with Warf. Vardus series they sounded decent for movies but for music they are average.
As most of the forum members mentioned in various posts, its always better to have extra power on AVR.

I have paired with 9.1 and 9.cs

 

[vinsks]

Hi Friends,

How is the pairing of Denon 1610 with Warf Diamond 9.2(Frunt), 9.1(Surr), DIA 9.CS(center), SW150
pls suggest

regards
vinay

 

[sanchits]

I have finalized to go in for denon AVR but i am confused between the 1610 and 1910. i kknow the major differences like video upscaling, more power and 7.1 channels in 1910 but I dont need both. I would be adding a 5.1 speaker setup and I just need to connect a ps3 via hdmi so no need for upscaling. NOw, my main concern is that is there any major difference in sound quality and is that 15w of extra power in 1910 worth spending more. Also what are the latest prices of both in delhi. Is it advisable to buy one from UK, as i would be going there soon and i there is a difference of 8-12k difference in prices of both the avr's. Is it worth spending that much more in india just to get 1 year warranty.
What if i buy one from the grey market, would there be considerable price difference and is it available in the grey market.
the speakers i would be using would be in the range of Wharf 9.6 or jamo 606 HT packages. I would be mainly using it for music and a bit of movies. I need genuine help in deciding and what would be an approximate cost of the denon avr with Wharf and jamo.

thanks everyone for the replies. i don't need the upscaling feature or the 7.1 audio. Does it make sense spending more just for the wattage as i stated before i will mostly need it for music and a bit of movies. I am planning to buy Jamo s606 or wharf diamond series. So, would the 1610 be enough for these speakers and the likes.
I had asked another questions, that what are the latest prices of both in delhi. Is it advisable to buy one from UK, as i would be going there soon and there is a difference of 8-12k in prices of both the avr's. Is it worth spending that much more in india just to get 1 year warranty. Should i buy one from london ?
Or, What if i buy one from the grey market, would there be considerable price difference and is it available in the grey market.

 

[corElement]

The s606 has questionable internal components but thats a different topic

 

[sanchits]

The s606 has questionable internal components but thats a different topic

ok..i'll audition CA shortly, i mainly need it for music, so i hope i am not dissapointed. I just asked the profx and i got a quote of 45k for the entire system. Is it a good price or i can get down till 40k and what gauge of wires would be good enough and the brand. Is denon amp good combination for these speakers.