Do good cables really enhance SQ?

100% agree. Many people claim that cables make a difference. I have never been able to make out any difference when there is absolutely extremely minute switching time involved in changing cables. The moment there is a time lag involved in switching, the wonderful human brain plays an important role in deciding which cable is best.

I suspect people who notice difference do not test it correctly. They manually change cables. The way I test cables is to connect multiple cables from the same source and use a rotary switch to change the cables in split millisecond. Using this method I have never been able to notice any difference (with eyes closed and asking someone else to change the rotary switch positions).
 
Amit, cable doesn't enhance sound quality but it surely can degrade it. A good cable will definitely help you to get better sound quality from speaker by not altering them in the signal path.
Even I have read many articles about farce and fact of audio cable but I believed my ears.
I have used Rs.13/ft cable to Rs.32/ft to Bandridge to $6/ft cable and everytime I found the difference. And you have to believe me it wasn't placebo. Presently I am using Tara Labs Prism Helix 8 cable for my speakers.
Another thing is that poor cables put undue load on your amplifiers.
 
You hear sound as good as the connectors inside the rotary switch :)

There is a saying - "Your system is as good as the weakest component in the chain". :D
completely agree with Koushik.. while Cable impact is a oft discussed topic and there are enough threads on that, putting in a rotary will only the degrade the sound and even if there were differences will not throw it up as it becomes the bottleneck
 
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Look dear, if you use a hi end system (Marantz, Cyrus, Cambridge Audio, Rega,list in endless) and use a cloth hanger as interconnect then surely you will be missing out a lot.

In other hand if you use a ordinary sound system (Sony hifi, Panasonic hifi, Philips hifi and famous korean consumer hifi giants) and use a Moster cable or QED cable you won't notice any difference .....
 
I promise i can show reasonable differences( not day and night) with each interconnects and change of speaker cables :p:p:p
 
There are different types of cables. And they carry two types of signals - analogue or digital.

When it comes to analogue cables, bad cables using low grade materials such as tin/copper instead of pure copper, or not properly shielded, having low grade connectors, etc. will definitely degrade the signal, especially over longer distances. This is because of impedence of the material themselves causing loss of signal strength. Improper shielding will cause noise to be picked up. Bad connectors - well you know what they can do. Gold plated connectors are definitely better.

Moreover oxygen free cables (mostly used for speakers) will help in avoiding degeneration over period of time. Imagine that speaker wires are concealed. If the cables go bad over period, will it be possible to replace them?

So while considering analogue connections, definitely consider better quality/better well known brand.

On the other hand, cables carrying digital signals will either work or won't work. There will be no degeneration of signal except in case of really long distances - say 50 feet or more. There is no need to buy a $19.99 1.5m HDMI cable - the $2.99 cable of the same length will just work as fine. But it is possible that unknown brand cable may fail earlier. But that does not mean it will degenerate or spoil the signal.

Here are typical cables and their type:
  • HDMI - Digital
  • Coaxial Audio - Digital
  • Optical Audio Digital
  • Component Video - Analogue
  • Composite AV - Analogue
  • Standard RCA Audio - Analogue
  • Speaker cables - Analogue
  • Any other cable - Analogue
 
Cables dont enhance the sound. Rather 99.99% cables degrade the sound in some way or the other. Hence we pay $$$ for the cables that sound better than the $$ cables.

HTH
--G
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Cable influences are dependent on signal types.

Digital signal is not affected as already pointed out but even then one should buy a decent cable for adequate longevity.

Among analog cables the influences are directly dependent on signal strengths. The smaller the signal carried by the cable the more the influence.

Thus analog interconnects > speaker cables > power cords.

The best cable is no cable so the shorter the cable the better it is. Shorter the cable smaller the effects of resistance, inductance and capacitance.

The cable quality also depends on termination, better the termination lesser the resistance. Directly soldered joints is the best termination though not practical.

Silver is the best conductor followed by copper however for small lengths there is no significant difference.

Speaker cables need the adequate gauge for longer lengths as resistance becomes a factor. So use decent gauge. This is audible.

Overall the analog small signal interconnects connecting the source to preamp or amplifier should be the first cable upgrade.

All the audible cable differences are for high end systems not low fidelity systems. People with low fi / mid fi systems should keep cable upgrades for last.

They will be better of with speaker upgrades, amp upgrades and source upgrades before they move to interconnects.
 
To notice the difference, your setup must first be capable of revealing it.

For example take the yamaha ns 1000. It is notorious through history of being unforgiving to bad cabling.
Why? Because it is capable of putting out that level of clarity where you are able to notice the difference in cables,

The ns1000 was often called the "end of the weak link" because it would force you to get better cables or components to please the speaker.

At the same time, you will not notice much difference comparing multi strand cables vs comparing multistrand vs single strand in hyperlitz config.

There is also an audible difference between copper vs silver vs gold.
 
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What's "good?"

Seems to me that there is a lot of value judgement done on the basis of what seems good. Is a pure metal really any better at its job than an alloy? How much does how you feel about the word impurity affect your personal judgement about whether you should buy a cable,a dn how much you should pay for it, and whether or not you are going to announce "Oh wow! Night and day difference!"

Oxygen. What's wrong with it? This one is a bit different to impure, because we all know we'd die without it --- but how did we get sold the idea that audio cables should not include it? Was it ever justified? Or has it just become part of hifi folk lore, for which we pay dearly?

Well, some of our members are scientists, and they do understand these things, and some of them say that it makes a difference...

There's only one honest, decent simple and reasonable way out of this, and for some reason, not only the manufacturers, but us buyers, whose interests and wallets are at stake, run, screaming and howling at the very mention of it. Blind testing.

any difference between a high grade interconnect and a coat hanger?
It was meant to be a blind test between Monster (do they make "good" cables?) and another cable. The guy doing the set up, unknown to the the listeners, went a little further and added coat-hanger speaker cables in to the testing...
We gathered up a 5 of our audio buddies. We took my "old" Martin Logan SL-3 (not a bad speaker for accurate noise making) and hooked them up with Monster 1000 speaker cables (decent cables according to the audio press). We also rigged up 14 gauge, oxygen free Belden stranded copper wire with a simple PVC jacket. Both were 2 meters long. They were connected to an ABX switch box allowing blind fold testing. Volume levels were set at 75 Db at 1000K Hz. A high quality recording of smooth, trio, easy listening jazz was played (Piano, drums, bass). None of us had heard this group or CD before, therefore eliminating biases. The music was played. Of the 5 blind folded, only 2 guessed correctly which was the monster cable. (I was not one of them). This was done 7 times in a row! Keeping us blind folded, my brother switched out the Belden wire (are you ready for this) with simple coat hanger wire! Unknown to me and our 12 audiophile buddies, prior to the ABX blind test, he took apart four coat hangers, reconnectd them and twisted them into a pair of speaker cables. Connections were soldered. He stashed them in a closet within the testing room so we were not privy to what he was up to. This made for a pair of 2 meter cables, the exact length of the other wires. The test was conducted. After 5 tests, none could determine which was the Monster 1000 cable or the coat hanger wire. Further, when music was played through the coat hanger wire, we were asked if what we heard sounded good to us. All agreed that what was heard sounded excellent, however, when A-B tests occured, it was impossible to determine which sounded best the majority of the time and which wire was in use. Needless to say, after the blind folds came off and we saw what my brother did, we learned he was right...most of what manufactures have to say about their products is pure hype. It seems the more they charge, the more hyped it is.

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You hear sound as good as the connectors inside the rotary switch :)

...and as good as the cable inside your amplifier cabinet ...and as good as the cable inside your speaker cabinet

Hey ho... all good fun :D
 
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...and as good as the cable inside your amplifier cabinet ...and as good as the cable inside your speaker cabinet

Thad,

Very aptly put.

While i don't believe in cable wars. I do believe that you need cable that is thick/sturdy enough with proper shielding and good terminations. Beyond that, there is no real benefit going higher up/paying more.
 
Using very expensive Interconnects are the greatest example of placebo effect.......
 
Amit,
'Enhance the sound quality' will not be the right phrase. But cables do affect tone of the system. Specially at lower signal levels like from Preamp to power amp. Longer cables are said to somewhat attenuate the high frequency range, so one can implement this to control overall sound of the system if one finds that range not to his/her liking or otherwise.

Few days back, I worked late in night.
Quiet and serene, time for music was right.

Old pioneer was working without any fraying,
From Brubeck vinyl, 'The Duke' it was playing.

Mood was right, so it was absolute delight,
Woke up refreshed at the sign of first light.

Looking back I wonder if it does matter ?
that If I had the cables that were better.


Regards
 
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