Gallos,PSB, Mythos?
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They seem to require quite a bit of breathing space behind and I can't afford to keep the speakers too much away from the walls
prem,
The Trishnas do not appear yet on the Rethm website. I know they were displayed at the RMAF 2010 and their drivers are probably different from the Sadhnas. Can you tell us more about them? Any price point? As you know I liked the Sadhnas very much at your place and found their sound signature very similar to that of the speakers at my home.
Regards.
The Trishnas do not appear yet on the Rethm website. I know they were displayed at the RMAF 2010 and their drivers are probably different from the Sadhnas. Can you tell us more about them? Any price point? As you know I liked the Sadhnas very much at your place and found their sound signature very similar to that of the speakers at my home.
Regards.
Hi Asit
The Trishnas use a new full range driver developed here. Its meant for smaller rooms. Like the Saadhanas it has amplified bass. I have not heard the Trishnas but i believe the sonic signature is similar to the Saadhanas albeit with a little less bass. I am not very sure of the exact price but it is in the range of Rs 1.25-1.5 lakh
The Trishnas use a new full range driver developed here. Its meant for smaller rooms. Like the Saadhanas it has amplified bass. I have not heard the Trishnas but i believe the sonic signature is similar to the Saadhanas albeit with a little less bass. I am not very sure of the exact price but it is in the range of Rs 1.25-1.5 lakh
As mentioned by Venkatcr, you are looking for a speaker which can also be part of a larger HT in the future, Sonus Faber is a great option.
another option is Dali and even Dynaudio. I rate these much higher than PSB and paradigm (not that these are not good ! and there are changes model to model )
If you are interested in future upgradeability to HT, the choice of Amps is also critical as am sure you do not want to keep switching cables when moving from a audio to video mode
another option is Dali and even Dynaudio. I rate these much higher than PSB and paradigm (not that these are not good ! and there are changes model to model )
If you are interested in future upgradeability to HT, the choice of Amps is also critical as am sure you do not want to keep switching cables when moving from a audio to video mode
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Another option available in Mumbai is the Emerald Physics CS3. Its available at Lakozy (although I am not sure of the status on his demo models). If a demo does not work out at Lakozy, I can guide you to a demo at one of the EP owner/enthusiast's place.
its a very different alternative from the ones mentioned above - if you like big, open, live sound, this is it.
cheers
Sridhar
its a very different alternative from the ones mentioned above - if you like big, open, live sound, this is it.
cheers
Sridhar
i can vouch for the EP's..amazing speakers regarding what they can do in 2 channel setup..very impressive especially at its price point.
Sridhar, how do they do HT ie matching center speaker and all that ?
Sridhar, how do they do HT ie matching center speaker and all that ?
Hi Asit, what i liked about them was also the transparency they brought about...the spatial imaging was great..Although when i heard it i thought the warmth was less, but that is something which is more of an amp-speaker synergy rather than the speaker, which in this case gives the impression of the Proverbiaj unbiased window into the music !
really interested in hearing your view on it
really interested in hearing your view on it
arj,
The overall impression was very good, I must say. When in the previous year I was visiting Mumbai, Sridhar set this audition up for me. The owner (not a member here I think) is a true gentleman, and a true audio-enthusiast, more than that he is a genuine music lover. After enjoying prem's system and a great lunch at his place (forever indebted to prem and his wife for their hospitality and generosity), I caught a taxi to this person's place in Matunga. The distance was not much, but the Bombay traffic is absolutely hopeless and I arrived at least half an hour (if not an hour) late. The EPs were installed in the apartment in Matunga which was newly renovated and the person with his family still did not move into it. He just kept waiting for me on a Saturday afternoon until I arrived.
The problem with the audition was the the EP CS3's were placed in a room which was very very narrow (just wider than a 3 seater sofa, I know real estate in Bombay is even costlier than in New York) and the electronics, albeit reasonable, was quite modest and generally lacked body. I guess the Behringer probably weighed in the dimensions of the room to cut down on the bass. As a result, the warmth and dynamics were lacking a bit and this was in the way for a proper evaluation of the speakers. Still, I must say these were one of the cleanest and transparent sounding speakers I have heard. Spatial imaging was very good despite the small room and very tight placement. There was no doubt in my mind that these were very special speakers. I can only dream about how they would sound with heftier electronics and a bigger room. That is why I like to hear them again under more favorable conditions.
I hope the owner does not take it to heart my minor criticisms of the smallness of the room and modest electronics, if he is reading these posts (as I said I do not know if he is a member here). I thank him from the bottom of my heart for his kindness to allow me (an absolute stranger) to listen his system. That is one reason I never wrote in detail about these auditions.
Regards.
The overall impression was very good, I must say. When in the previous year I was visiting Mumbai, Sridhar set this audition up for me. The owner (not a member here I think) is a true gentleman, and a true audio-enthusiast, more than that he is a genuine music lover. After enjoying prem's system and a great lunch at his place (forever indebted to prem and his wife for their hospitality and generosity), I caught a taxi to this person's place in Matunga. The distance was not much, but the Bombay traffic is absolutely hopeless and I arrived at least half an hour (if not an hour) late. The EPs were installed in the apartment in Matunga which was newly renovated and the person with his family still did not move into it. He just kept waiting for me on a Saturday afternoon until I arrived.
The problem with the audition was the the EP CS3's were placed in a room which was very very narrow (just wider than a 3 seater sofa, I know real estate in Bombay is even costlier than in New York) and the electronics, albeit reasonable, was quite modest and generally lacked body. I guess the Behringer probably weighed in the dimensions of the room to cut down on the bass. As a result, the warmth and dynamics were lacking a bit and this was in the way for a proper evaluation of the speakers. Still, I must say these were one of the cleanest and transparent sounding speakers I have heard. Spatial imaging was very good despite the small room and very tight placement. There was no doubt in my mind that these were very special speakers. I can only dream about how they would sound with heftier electronics and a bigger room. That is why I like to hear them again under more favorable conditions.
I hope the owner does not take it to heart my minor criticisms of the smallness of the room and modest electronics, if he is reading these posts (as I said I do not know if he is a member here). I thank him from the bottom of my heart for his kindness to allow me (an absolute stranger) to listen his system. That is one reason I never wrote in detail about these auditions.
Regards.
The Contours, I suppose. The Soundsmiths are the dealer/distributor located in Bombay.
Regards.
Hi Arj
I have a slightly different take on the HT setup. In our installations of HT setups EPs have turned out to be quite popular - in some we have used either a single CS2.3 or a single CS3 as the center, however the center channel need is a myth IMO and unless one has a very wide seating position, or the speakers are unusually narrow in their off-axis patterns/response, there is no need for a center channel. The need comes mostly from marketing lingo (hey, we all want to sell more speakers
) and from the cinema theatre business where this seating width is huge. A smaller version (form factor) of the CS3 will be launched in Q1.11 which will then perform dedicated duties of the center but for now a CS3 used as a center will do the same.
There is one specific of break in on this speaker which is quite something - it takes almost close to a 1000 hours, but the speakers actually sound warmer (but with no loss of detail). If you are going to be in Hyd or in Mumbai - I can pass on a couple of contacts to you where you can give this fully broken in system a listen
sidvee has heard this hyd system extensively...if he is reading, he can comment on it too
cheers
Hi Asit
Unfortunately, none in Calcutta as of now
I dont think the owner minds you posting here about these impressions. I must say that he is very happy with them and yes, his room width is about 8ft or very close to that, so not wide at all. He does mention he gets great imaging here. There is an extensive post by him on the other hifi german forum.Soon, people in Bangalore can hear the EPs without the behringer but instead with an extremely high quality DAC/equalisation.
We already have the EPs with upgraded drivers (Beyma from Spain) and if you felt the old speakers were clean, these speakers make the old ones sound like they had rugs placed on them
cheers
Sridhar,
Thanks for that update on the EP CS3's. Will definitely like to hear them again in their newer versions.
pguy,
If you are going to the Soundsmiths to hear the Dynaudios, see if you can hear the Canton Vento 890 DC speakers. We do not talk much about these speakers because not many people have heard them here. Cantons are generally quite expensive outside Germany, but would fit your budget, I think. Reports are very good. Check out a Stereophile review of the Vento 809 DC (the previous avatar of 890 DC) here: Canton Vento 809 DC loudspeaker | Stereophile.com . There is an interesting comparison in that review of these speakers with Sonus Faber Cremonas which are quite a bit above the Ventos pricewise. If you later on plan to complete a HT speaker set-up, these nicely integrate into the Canton scheme of things for HT. I have never heard any modern Canton though, but I own a pair of quite high-end Canton speakers bought 21 years ago and they are still to show any signs of old age and sonically superb.
Regards.
Thanks for that update on the EP CS3's. Will definitely like to hear them again in their newer versions.
pguy,
If you are going to the Soundsmiths to hear the Dynaudios, see if you can hear the Canton Vento 890 DC speakers. We do not talk much about these speakers because not many people have heard them here. Cantons are generally quite expensive outside Germany, but would fit your budget, I think. Reports are very good. Check out a Stereophile review of the Vento 809 DC (the previous avatar of 890 DC) here: Canton Vento 809 DC loudspeaker | Stereophile.com . There is an interesting comparison in that review of these speakers with Sonus Faber Cremonas which are quite a bit above the Ventos pricewise. If you later on plan to complete a HT speaker set-up, these nicely integrate into the Canton scheme of things for HT. I have never heard any modern Canton though, but I own a pair of quite high-end Canton speakers bought 21 years ago and they are still to show any signs of old age and sonically superb.
Regards.
as surmised by asit , I meant the contours. you must speak to Dr Bass in this forum as he has owned them before. depending on how you like your music, the Dynaudio 52s are a lot more forgiving and match better to most electronics .
Mumbai is a good place to listen to most of this..depending on the type of music and presentation you like, you should like something with the current choices of Sonus Faber, Dynaudio, EP,Dali etc..
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As I mentioned earlier as well you need to take a demo. There are wealth of options available in the market today. But, you need to listen before you make a decision. Different people have different tastes for music. Experience of other people can give you an idea about the sound signature of the speaker but nothing more.
Do visit all the probable options and then take a call.
Cheers!
Auditioned the Paradigm speakers today. I went in to listen to the Paradigm S6 and came away rather happy. At first the speakers were kept rather close to the wall and the sound was rather boomy on certain rock songs. The speakers need some space to breathe and once they were kept away from the walls and the sides they sounded amazing. The imaging was phenomenal. I had to get up a few times to check if the center channel was working (first test was using an AVR). The sound was crisp and the instruments sounded great.
Then plugged the anthem 225s and put the speakers in stereo mode. I a/b'd them with the Studio 100. The studio 100 sounded terrible. The dealer mentioned that it was just a couple of days out of the box and hadn't been broken in. Hope to hear them again in a week or so when it sounds better.
Shitij has put me in touch with him team at Mumbai and I will be scheduling a visit over the next weekend.
Until now the paradigm s6's are the best speakers I've heard. Hopefully next week I'll finish with the Anthony Gallo's fully broken in and the PSB Synchrony as well.
The Paradigm dealer also mentioned that they too would be getting the Gallos and also the Martin Logan Vantages - so more listening coming up.
Then plugged the anthem 225s and put the speakers in stereo mode. I a/b'd them with the Studio 100. The studio 100 sounded terrible. The dealer mentioned that it was just a couple of days out of the box and hadn't been broken in. Hope to hear them again in a week or so when it sounds better.
Shitij has put me in touch with him team at Mumbai and I will be scheduling a visit over the next weekend.
Until now the paradigm s6's are the best speakers I've heard. Hopefully next week I'll finish with the Anthony Gallo's fully broken in and the PSB Synchrony as well.
The Paradigm dealer also mentioned that they too would be getting the Gallos and also the Martin Logan Vantages - so more listening coming up.
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