Modifying the Marantz CD 63 KI

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I dont know if this thread should be in CD players or DIY. Moderators should move it where they see fit.

Many many moons ago I thought about upgrading a CD63KI (see link below) based on suggesstions and modifications done by other members on diyaudio.com

Marantz CD63 & CD67 mods list - diyAudio

I got the 63Ki and some of the parts but never got the time to make the mods. Does anyone know of a service that will make these mods in India (preferably Mumbai)?
 
Ok this is the story so far.

I have a Marantz 63KI from the early 90s (must be 92) which I received as a gift from a friend in Germany (who is part of the audio business) who in turn (I'm told) had received it from Ken Ishiwata himself.

A year later I received another gift - an early Phonosophie based on the CD63 (not KI) from antoher friend in the audio business. Lucio Cadeddu used Marantz 63 chassis and added something called the Analogmaker or somethine but the overall sound was really smooth.

Both the 63KI and the Phonosohpie had their strenghts and weaknesses so for a long time I tought about marrying both. See my old post #13440 here
Marantz CD63 & CD67 mods list - Page 1344 - diyAudio

Never got around to it but I did get some of the parts discussed in the diyaudio thread above.

I did notice that much of the strength of the Phonosophie centered around the power supply with power cord, RCA sockets, and some frequency shaping . While the copper sheild and improved DAC was the strength of the KI.

I do not want my CD player to look like this though (see link).
HifiSounds.co.uk | Wix.com

My primary reason for not doing this despite all my efforts has been a severe lack of time. SO here I am, I am willing to supply anyone both the 63Ki and the Phonosophie and all the parts I cah collected so far if they are willing to make the modifications.

I would assume the mods would take 4-6 working days as much of it centers arround taking parts of the 63Ki and putting it in the Phonosophie box (the power supply/cable and RCA sockets from the Phonosophie are not easy to move).

Additionally I am willing to pay for labour and any parts the person interested needs to supply. The person interested must have expereince in dealing with CD lasers so a good CD repair guy would be an ideal candidate.
 
My advice is not to go overboard on the mods. I would recommend just the replacement of the opamps (preferably with discretes), and removal/bypassing the HDAMs completely.

A stock CD63 with these mods (using my LF03 discrete opamps) is with Sreekanth at Bangalore, and sounds close to magic. Badri has a CD53 with an extensive set of mods including the LF03s and numerous Black Gates, which I'm told sounded great until it stopped reading CDs recently.

My CD63 is work in progress, but it will have the discrete opamps, a few electrolytic upgrades, and extensive upgrades to the analog filter sections based on suggestions at diyaudio.com.

In particular, I do not recommend changing the regulators or the replacing the clock in the first set of mods - the audible gains are minimal unless the analog signal path is cleaned up first.
 
I am using linuxguru's discrete opamp. It sounds so sweet. You can try basic mods and see the difference. My modification includes cap replacement, resistors, replaced stock clock to Fidelity Audio c2 clock. One of the best mod, opamp to lf03. My next mod going to be separate power supply for clock and adding clock to servo.
 
Pics showing all the mods/upgrades done so far - I had to replace the VAM1202 transport yesterday, so I used the opportunity to a complete a few pending upgrades. The only mods not visible in this pic are a few SMD bypass caps installed on the underside near the DAC, and a jumper wire. Most of the mods in the PSU and Digital section are simple replacements of electrolytics and bypass caps with better quality ones. Nothing very boutique-oriented, just a bunch of Sanyo Oscon SCs for the small digital bypasses, and a pair of Panasonic Pureism PXL for the main analog rails after the regulators. All the regulators have been left unchanged.

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Most of the key mods are centred around the DAC, PWM filter and Line Opamp.

The Analog supply to the DAC is separated from the Digital +5V rail and derived from the Opamp +12V rail instead, and regulated further with two independent shunt regulators for the two channels. The outputs of the shunt regulators are bypassed with NCC PSA polymer caps close to the SM5872 DAC analog supplies, and there's also 4x X7R SMD ceramics directly on the analog supply pins of the DAC. The XTAL circuit is cleaned up with improved routing and bypasses, but its supply is still derived from digital +5V (I may put in an external Tent clock or Kwak clock later, so I didn't want to waste too much time on the DAC internal XTAL supply).

The PWM filter has Wima FKP2 stacked film/foil caps at almost all locations - there is one additional silver mica in each channel, used as the cross-coupling element suggested by Mauro Penasa. Almost all the resistors have been left unchanged (they're 0.125W and small, and all my better resistors like Dale, PRP, Welwyn, Holco, Philips etc., are larger sized and will have to be mounted vertically, which will increase the lead inductance, so that's been deferred for now - I may consider using thin-film SMD resistors on the underside in a future upgrade).

The main change is the opamp - I removed the original JRCs, soldered 2x DIP8 sockets, and used the latest version of my LF03 fully-discrete dual opamps in the socket. These are bypassed by 4x 220uF/25v Cerafines from each rail to ground. In addition, there's a rail-to-rail SMD PPS bypass on each channel of each LF03 opamp.

The final mod is to completely disable the HDAMs - they're still on board, but the signal is sent directly from the opamp to the RCA out. The 4x Elna Silimic DC-blocking/coupling caps are also removed.

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That's about all that's been done, and the results are sufficiently good for me to consider stopping here - only the low-jitter external clock mod has been left for future consideration. Note that there's no clutter on the board in the form of additional large boards, dangling wires, oversize capacitors, large film caps, etc., which is the norm in many of the mods posted on the ~2000-page diyAudio thread.

The sound? Very transparent, open and micro-detailed. It's just a trifle bright in the upper mids. It may settle down after the Cerafines run in - if it still remains bright, I'll upgrade the Cerafines to Black Gate PKs after a few months (not a single Black Gate has been used in this CDP upgrade).

The same set of mods can be performed on any Marantz with an NPC SM5872 DAC - this includes the CD43/53/63/67/1020 and all derivatives.
 
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