Panasonic S10 32" V/s Sony Bravia 32" EX400

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Hello PPl,

I am a new member in this forum and found that there are great inputs from the members. Really appreciating that i would like to get a suggestion from you on 32" LCD TV

I was initially planning for Panasonic and was almost decided to buy S10 model Full HD TV. But then when i saw Sony EX400 series i got confused. Asthetic lookwise i like sony.But my main aim is to get the best pic quality and sound with TATA sky connection. i have normal tata sky connection .

please suggest me which one to buy.i need to buy a TV soon.

Thanks
Ganesh
 
What is your budget?
There is significant price difference between the two?
At the Marathalli, Adeeshwar showroom EX400 is 39900 and S10 is 34000
 
BTW since you stay in bangalore if you do opt for the EX400 get them in the national market where for the same price of showroom you can get a 32" EX500 or even a 40" BX400 lcd,although again the 40" EX400 is much better costs 44k in national market aka bangalore grey market.
 
Hi ganna,

What did you finally buy? I recently checked out the 32" EX500 and was quite impressed by its performance. Of course, since you mentioned that budget is not an issue, I presume you do not mind shelling out another 10k!!

Good luck,
Pannags
 
Difference is the technology. Both have Plus and minus points. Search the forum you will get it easily ! :)
 
Just to tell you that Panasonic S10 has been discontinued by the company and its new version is U20 and it is avlb. in Delhi for Rs.29000/- with gifts as above.

But I could not find any difference in both of these 2 panasonic LCDs...

Pls tell which one hv u finally bought and at what price?
 
The EX400 is better suited with TS and has far superior contrast.

Dont know how you say the EX400 has far superior contrast. In the showroom I didnt find any difference between these two. Moreover I have found the blacks are grey on the sony. I have never seen any sony lcds producing true blacks, its alrways grey on the dark scenes.

I think you are quite intentional always to prove sony is better always and Panasonic is far behind than anything. I have observed these in many of your posts before..unfortunately its true.
 
Dont know how you say the EX400 has far superior contrast. In the showroom I didnt find any difference between these two. Moreover I have found the blacks are grey on the sony. I have never seen any sony lcds producing true blacks, its alrways grey on the dark scenes.

I think you are quite intentional always to prove sony is better always and Panasonic is far behind than anything. I have observed these in many of your posts before..unfortunately its true.

Good catch there. I think we have someone who has a personal vendetta against LG in our midst.... or at any rate someone who really has something against IPS based tv. or a hardcore fan-boy

Well regarding the LG i wouldn't pay the premium for the LD650 over the lower end model LD460 just for the tru motion.
The samsung C650 is a good tv and i would pick that over the LD650.

3d is overated,these are all first gen 3d tv,still have lot of issues.

If the tv is kept at 2 to 3 feet you will be looking straight on at axis,so you won't see any difference in viewing angle in lcds the IPS based and the Sony EX700 and above have good viewing angles i.e a bit better then the SPVA based.

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^The samsung C650 has 100hz not 200hz(still a whole better then LG 200hz).
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Glossy panels like the one used in samsung still have far lower reflections compared to super mirror finish tvs like Sony NX and some LG models.
Off course a matte lcd will have lesser reflections since it diffuses the light.

Some manufactures like Sony and Samsung achieve deep blacks by using dark panel despite being glossy have lesser reflections like the Sony HX and LX series that have the Opti contrast panel.
These panels have better blacks under ambient light then matte lcds.
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Well i never said it isn't good,what i am saying is that it doesn't cost much for manufactures to implement it.But they charge a premium.
Both the Sony and Samsung have good 100hz .but i would never recommend people to pay the same premium for the LG trumotion tech.
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LG LG650 has much lower contrast then the Sony which have a SPVA panel.
The Sony motionflow is again superior to the Lg trumotion,so is the overall PQ in SD
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Well the samsung turns out to be the most expensive.

The sony HX800 is a local dimming edge led display.

52EX700 is a better buy then the LG LE5500.
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As far as grey market just the 40EX500 is available for 53k to 55k in showroom its priced at 73k.The 40EX400 is available for 42k to 45k but in showroom it costs about 60k+.
So you can get the idea of how cheap the LED lit lcds will be.
The lg implementation called trumotion doesn't make much of a difference.
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@Spiron
I suggest you to have a look at the samsung C530 ,it has far more contrast,has a good SD performance or the Sony EX400 in the grey market its priced well below your 30k budget.
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Service in india is bad in all manufactures.
B/w samsung and LG the .The samsung has the better image processing and blacks are quite deep.Their glossy panels have far less reflections then the LG glossy lcd and sony NX range.

 
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Sony is not always better nor it makes anything out of this world. I have experienced it.

I find that sony is value for money only if it being offered at 40-50% discount of present m.r.p.

There is nothing more to a sony apart from " extra bright" and " extra colorful " images ( only when viewed from straight)

i have learned a lesson of a life time that one should always be neutral and should not be biased towards any particular brand.

With present m.r.p none of the sony tv's are value for money.
 
Just to tell you that Panasonic S10 has been discontinued by the company and its new version is U20 and it is avlb. in Delhi for Rs.29000/- with gifts as above.

But I could not find any difference in both of these 2 panasonic LCDs...

Pls tell which one hv u finally bought and at what price?

Any idea how good is U20 model when compared to Sony EX400 couz during my visit to showroom I didn't find any difference between the two in respect to PQ.
 
Dont know how you say the EX400 has far superior contrast. In the showroom I didnt find any difference between these two. Moreover I have found the blacks are grey on the sony. I have never seen any sony lcds producing true blacks, its alrways grey on the dark scenes.

I think you are quite intentional always to prove sony is better always and Panasonic is far behind than anything. I have observed these in many of your posts before..unfortunately its true.

Well the fact is the SPVA panels have far better contrast,even objective data shows that.
Also one needs to adjust the tvs to their optimum settings.

Higher the contrast ,more perception of depth.

Their is also a lot more in how the tvs achieve good blacks,mosts tvs Dynamic contrast implementation is either by dimming or crank up the backlight.

Also our eyes can play tricks.If you see two identical tvs with TV "A" with backlight setting set much higher then TV "B" ,in dark scenes where majority is black TV "B" will show better blacks.

But if the scene has lots of bright images and you are judging the blacks levels by say looking at blacks bars of a movie,then the tv "A" will appear to have darker blacks (subjectively) even though in reality its blacks will be worse then tv "B",because the way our eyes react to bright light.

Lastly a tv can either show better blacks by crushing details in shadow area ,or vice versa.

@shredder
Well i not against IPS or LG,which again has its own advantages.For a monitor,still camera/DSLR ,mobile phone,laptop i would prefer a screen with IPS period.

But just not for tv(unless it was like LH90) .
Remember the plasma camp use to used the poor contrast ratio of lcds as their main marketing tool,now the lcds based on VA or PhotoAlignment are in the same league as most plasmas and better are good in daytime.

Where as the IPS hasn't made much of a progress in black levels ,not to the same extent as VA based, which have improved black levels by 200 to 400% in the last 4 years,even without aid from backlight.

Already the NEXT gen tech such as AMVA5 with 3x more contrast is stated to launch some time next year,so is the samsung Bluephase lcd which claims to have response time faster them any other lcd tech.
Which should steal the market share from IPS.Most first tier lcd makers are choosing VA based panels.
Philips who used to use IPS panels before for their high end tvs are using only VA based for 09 and 10 models,same goes to toshiba.

But with respect to LG,well other manufactures like philips do better then LG using the same panel.
LG is let down by its image processing,although good,not as good as the competition from samsung/sony/philips.Its TRUMOTION is a joke and i am not the only person in this forums who finds the same.
 
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