Prestige Turnberry - Help needed

[puneetkhurana21]

Hi,

I am writing this post after 3 months of my previous post where i asked about the speakers.

Well after 3 months, finally i have got Prestige Turnberry GR ( as gift ).

After 8 hours of listening, i have reached to some conclusion and i need expert advice/help.

Since i am pretty naive and don't know all the terminologies, i'll try my best to explain.

I have marantz pm8005, which i feel is not compatible with turnberry. the vocals and base is good, but i feel speaker is dividing the music in 2 parts: front music + vocals and background music (sometimes tabla , strings etc both high and low freq in back). front music feels nice but the back music feel suppressed.
is this because of the speakers and amp hasn't 'break in' or its the tunrberry compatibility with tube.


If any one is there in Bangalore and could bring tube amp (30w +) or could come and solve the issue, would be very helpful.

i am really missing that 'back' music :sad:

Thanks in advance.
Puneet

 

[Audio_Freek]

Puneet,

Congrats for getting a Mammoth speaker that too as Gift.The recommended power supply for speaker seems 30-180 Watts RMS and Sensitivity is 91 DB.Whereas Marantz is 70 RMS.

I no were experience using the Tannoy's, but heard that they sound with Soul connected with Tubs. Hence you might upgrade the amp first.

But you could wait for Burn-in time to re-run the test and check your satisfaction.

So what is the source of the Audio and whats are in the chain?

Kindly post the pictures of the speakers please

 

[puneetkhurana21]

Thanks a lot for reply.
i will definitely post pics tomorrow

 

[Thad E Ginathom]

What an astonishingly amazing gift! Congratulations!

We have at least one member who knows these speakers very well indeed, with both SS and valve amplification. Hopefully he/they will notice this thread.

My experience is but a few hours of listening ---almost nothing--- but I do feel that that they should not feel actually wrong in any way, with almost any amplifier at all. Seems to me that positioning and room problems is the first place you should look.

Just my wild theory!

 

[ghatgepatil]

Tannoy Turnberry SE Loudspeakers | Hifi Pig
... quite informative!

 

[Audio_Freek]

Tannoy Turnberry SE Loudspeakers | Hifi Pig
... quite informative!

Sir,

Your reference just EXPLAINED out "concern of the requester"

Seems the speaker needs 100 hours burn in time and sounds perfect with push and pull amplification and they seems sound fabulous with Tubes.

 

[dheerajin]

Hi,

I am writing this post after 3 months of my previous post where i asked about the speakers.

Well after 3 months, finally i have got Prestige Turnberry GR ( as gift ).

After 8 hours of listening, i have reached to some conclusion and i need expert advice/help.

Since i am pretty naive and don't know all the terminologies, i'll try my best to explain.

I have marantz pm8005, which i feel is not compatible with turnberry. the vocals and base is good, but i feel speaker is dividing the music in 2 parts: front music + vocals and background music (sometimes tabla , strings etc both high and low freq in back). front music feels nice but the back music feel suppressed.
is this because of the speakers and amp hasn't 'break in' or its the tunrberry compatibility with tube.


If any one is there in Bangalore and could bring tube amp (30w +) or could come and solve the issue, would be very helpful.

i am really missing that 'back' music :sad:

Thanks in advance.
Puneet

Please check the left -right connection, it should not be out of phase.
In layman's term left speaker should be connected to left marked terminal of the amp and same goes with source connected to amp.

cheers

Dheeraj

 

[Thad E Ginathom]

In layman's term left speaker should be connected to left marked terminal of the amp

It is the +ve/-ve relationship that determines phase, and, when wrong, completely destroys the stereo soundstage. Left/right reversal will sound perfect, but put everything in the wrong places. Hee hee, I know that from some very recent experience : we all make mistakes with connections sometimes!

If the violins are on the right in a classical orchestra, somewhere in the chain L/R got reversed.

If you hear two separate speakers then +ve/-ve is probably wrong on one speaker.

I don't know what the effect of +ve/-ve wrong on both speakers is, but sucking when they should be blowing can't be great!

I seem to remember that the Turnberry connectors are a little complex. Well worth double checking. We do all make mistakes sometimes.

Seems the speaker needs 100 hours burn in time and sounds perfect with push and pull amplification and they seems sound fabulous with Tubes.

I know this a very non-audiophile attitude, but they really should sound absolutely fabulous with anything. I can tell you for sure that they do with a Naim SS amp! I have every confidence that they would be wonderful with my rather more modest gear.

Unless there are esoteric factors of unusual equipment specifications, good equipment sounds good. Always.

--- it may not be to the personal taste of any given listener.

--- it may not give its best, but who minds room for upgrade of other components?

 

[Audio_Freek]

I know this a very non-audiophile attitude, but they really should sound absolutely fabulous with anything. I can tell you for sure that they do with a Naim SS amp! I have every confidence that they would be wonderful with my rather more modest gear.

Unless there are esoteric factors of unusual equipment specifications, good equipment sounds good. Always.

--- it may not be to the personal taste of any given listener.

--- it may not give its best, but who minds room for upgrade of other components?

Exactly, I do have experience in Tubes and its only with the RADIO and not with Amplifier.

The information was taken from the Website, which was given as reference.
I understand that NO Speaker can be "Amplifier Specific", Only the difference could be how they sound, But obviously they SOUND hyeah:

But Such Monster drivers surely would some good amplification, IMHO.So Marantz can drive them but not might sweet as Decent Tube or Hi-end SS does.

 

[puneetkhurana21]

i am posting the pic in hurry and will post more pics later.
https://plus.google.com/106636004892118300019/posts/VMzewNgwPU4

 

[Audio_Freek]

Thaks sir, But in Picture its Looking like a CAT and we need the Actual Tiger in the Photo, some close up shots.

 

[ghatgepatil]

Well, well .. well, the pic explains it all, I guess. The speaker positioning may be the culprit! Of what little I know of the Tannoys, they need quite a bit of space on its rear, maybe close to minimum 2'-3' from the front wall, and also a good amount of toe-in than most other small-driver speakers.

Try both and report please. The 'negatives' you had raised just does not point to burn-in at all.

 

[hydra]

Well, well .. well, the pic explains it all, I guess. The speaker positioning may be the culprit! Of what little I know of the Tannoys, they need quite a bit of space on its rear, maybe close to minimum 2'-3' from the front wall, and also a good amount of toe-in than most other small-driver speakers.

Try both and report please. The 'negatives' you had raised just does not point to burn-in at all.

^^ I'd start with this too. Placement determines at least 50% of how speakers sound, IMHE.

But yes, some speakers do work best with tube amplification. Why? I really don't know, heh heh. But I have experienced this multiple times. If you can manage to get a loaner push-pull amp to try out, that'd be great.

 

[iaudio]

^^ I'd start with this too. Placement determines at least 50% of how speakers sound, IMHE.

But yes, some speakers do work best with tube amplification. Why? I really don't know, heh heh. But I have experienced this multiple times. If you can manage to get a loaner push-pull amp to try out, that'd be great.

Damping factor could be a reason. No?

 

[Thad E Ginathom]

Yes, give them room and then see how it is!

 

[puneetkhurana21]

After moving speakers away from wall, the sound has improved in way that its not boomy.
but still seems like the 'back' sound is held by something.

it is very evident in Man of steel "Arcade" soundtrack.

 

[puneetkhurana21]

some more pics
https://plus.google.com/106636004892118300019/posts/B8eKCRd4w1a

 

[puneetkhurana21]

one more thing, i am using servo stabilizer.
will it impact the performance.

 

[AVM]

Congrats. Those are nice looking speakers.
Lucky to be gifted:yahoo:

Not sure if these are isolated from the floor. What I mean is do they have spkies or similar kind of isolators.

Initial days with my speakers, the sound seemed to be muddled until I got spkies from soundfoundations. That freed up the sound to a great extent.

 

[hydra]

Damping factor could be a reason. No?

No doubt. In my specific case I'm sure this was a BIG factor!