Projector Room, Projector and Screen Questions

[soamz]

Hi, Im done with my Audio part . Now its time for the Video part.

Now the questions set :

Projector Room :

I have a open space on my terrace , 14x20 and Im looking to use 14x15 of its space for my projector room. Before building the room, do I need to keep something in mind or make some specific checklist for the construction people ?
Is there a specific guidelines for projector room construction ?
I want to make it perfect, so I havent started the construction yet. Once, I have the complete idea, I will hire the contractor.


Projector and Screen :

My room width is 14 feet . And 150 inch screens are like 11.2 feet . Im looking to install a 150 inch screen.
So, is Epson tw8100 a good choice ?

And which screen goes well with it or do we need to order from the USA ?
I will be hiring ProFX guys to install and setup the projector and screen for me.

 

[Thtpro]

For the Epson tw8100, with a 150 inch 16:9 screen -- you need a throw distance of minimum of 178 inches-- so I would suggest the following-- either reduce your screen size or expand your room to a depth of 16.5 feet

Screen you can get them from Grandview-- You can get them in fixed frame or curved fixed frame

 

[soamz]

For the Epson tw8100, with a 150 inch 16:9 screen -- you need a throw distance of minimum of 178 inches-- so I would suggest the following-- either reduce your screen size or expand your room to a depth of 16.5 feet

Screen you can get them from Grandview-- You can get them in fixed frame or curved fixed frame

Ok, means the space , 14 x 17 has to be used then .

I dont think, my current audio setup can boom such a big room . Neither I want to invest more on audio part now, as everything is set on my end.

BTW, how do we calculate which size room for which size screen and what projector ?

Got a link for such a calculator ?

If not 150, then what are the other options for screen?

 

[Thtpro]

Here is a link for the epson projector-- throw distance-- click on the light blue circle which says "distance calculator"

Epson EH-TW8100 - Epson

Screens come in diagonal of 150", 133", 120" 16:9 format

 

[nSinghal]

Since your room has yet to be built, you have the chance to add a small shelf inside the projector wall at the top. Make the room as long as you want to (ie 15' out of the available 20' on your terrace) and cut a hole in the projector wall at the top (centred to the screen horizontally would be preferable but you can go a couple of feet left and right too if you wish) like a "roshandaan" (make it ~12"(h)x30"(w)x 24"(d) to allow proper ventilation) and put the PJ there. The epson especially is an ideal PJ for such shelf placement since both its exhaust and air intake are from the front of the PJ (front left and front right). If it had exhaust in the back then it could have been a little problematic.

Every PJ has a different throw distance. Visit Projectrocentral.com and use their PJ calculator for placement info, or visit the PJ website to find out its throw distance and zoom capabilities. I just got the tw8100 couple of days back and for that I can tell you that it needs exactly 14.7 feet of distance for 150" screen. Now remember this distance is from the screen to the PJ lens (which is at the front of PJ). So adding the depth of the PJ (ie~16" + couple of inches room for ventilation) you'll need about 16.5' from the screen to the back of PJ.

Or you can go with a PJ of shorter throw ratio. If you're dead set on tw8100 and dont want/cant build a shelf inside the wall, then you can get 133" image from it in a 15' long room (assuming you place the screens and the PJ as close to their respective walls as possible).

I just got a 133" screen too and watching it in my 17.7' long room, its freakin huge! Mark your wall for a hypthotecal 150" & 133" screens and see if its comfortable to watch from your front row of seating (back most row should be fine with either size) . My advice would be to get 133" but rule of thumb stays, BIGGER IS BETTER

 

[soamz]

Since heroom has yet to be built, you have the chance to add a small shelf inside the bprojector wall. Make the room as long as you want to (ie 15' out of the available 20' on your terrace) and cut a hole in the projector wall at the top (centred to the screen horizontally would be preferable but ou can go a couple of feet left and right too if you wish) like a roshandaan (make it 12"x30"x 30") and put the PJ there.

Every PJ has a different throw distance. Visit Projectrocentral.com amd use their PJ calculator for placement info, or visit the PJ website to find out its throw distance and zoom capabilities. I just got the tw8100 couple of days back and for that I can tell you that it needs exactly 14.7 feet of distance for 150" screen. Now remember this distance is from the screen to the PJ lens. So adding the depth of the PJ (ie~16" + couple of inches room for ventilation) you'll need about 16.5' from the screen to the back of PJ.

Or you can go with a PJ of shorter throw ratio. If you're dead set on tw8100 then in your room you can get 133" image from it I a 15' long room (assuming you place the screens nd the PJ as close to their respective walls as possible).

I just got a 133" screen too and watching it in my 17.7' long room, its freakin huge! Mark your wall for a hypthotecal 150 & 133" screens and see if its comfortable to watch from your front row of seating. My advice would be to get 133" but rule of thumb stays, BIGGER IS BETTER

Do you suggest to build a blank room first and then see, what screen sets well and at what distance to do what ?

I dont to mess up with all this, as its out of my knowledge. So, I should better ask the ProFX guys to calculate and do all the setup or drilling or whatever.
Right ?

Yes, Tw8100 is set.
Now the screen. Lets say the room is 14 x 17 . So , if we put a 150 inch screen and 8100 , then I guess, it would be very tough for the first row to enjoy it . Is that right ?

So, did you setup a 133 inch screen ?
Can you share some pictures of your setup ?
What was the total cost involved ?

 

[nSinghal]

Here you go http://www.hifivision.com/home-thea...droom-help-advice-suggestions-required-2.html

 

[soamz]

116k+ 12.5% VAT for the PJ.
37500+ 12.5% VAT for 133" Grandview CNV series motorised.
5500+ 5% tax for the 15 meter hdmi cable (no issues with 3d bluray btw)
2000 for installation

Prices look good to me. I will need it installed in Bhubaneswar though.
How much extra for Epson 3D Glasses ?
They are rechargeable ones ?

And active 3D ?

Also, what is the total width for 133 inch screen ?
I need to adjust my width of the room walls then.

And I dont want to watch from a too far distance, as I dont have much room space . I can at max extend my room to 14 x 17 . And would be watching around 14 feet from the screen only.

 

[nSinghal]

You can do the screen calc yourself. Just find a wall (any wall) and mark it for 133" screen (ie 116"x64") and 150" (131"x74") and watch it from the distance your front row will watch it. Also consider the height of the room. You don't want to put the screen too close to the top and bottom of the screen as it'll be a bit uncomfortable to watch. Keep atleast 18" at the top and bottom. So for a 150" screen you'll ideally need atleast a 110" high room. Mine is 100" high so anything bigger could have been problematic.

Another suggestion if you'll be watching mainly movies on this setup. You may consider getting a cinema wide screen (ie 2.35:1 compared to regular TV @ 1.77:1). In either screen ratio, you'll have to deal with black bars. In cinema wide, you'll get black bars on the left and right of the screen (for which you can add black curtains easily) for 1.77:1 content (all of HDTV, most 3D movies) and with the other screen you'll get black bars on top and bottom (not easy to add curtains for that) for cinema wide movies.

 

[soamz]

I will only watch BluRay Movies, so I would totally want to avoid the black bars.

No black bars on top bottom left right .

Thats why, I want a perfect 16:9 screen, so from all sides, it should be bright, just like iNox

 

[nSinghal]

133 would be perfect for you.

You know what will be easier? Tell us what you intend to watch here. Regular movies or 3D bluray or tatasky HD or sports. Like I intend to watch tatasky HD 60% , blu rays 20%, 3d bluray 5% and about 10% ps3/360 gaming. So for me a 1,77:1 screen made sense since majority of my content will be that ratio only. Also I have a motorised screen in a non dedicated room so adding curtains to a cinema wide screen wouldn't have been easy.

Epson 3d glasses are 6000 per glass, rechargeable. Samsung glasses will work too, cheaper (Rs 1400 appx) and use button cells. I preferred epson's but price diff made samsung an obvious choice.

Edit, typing on ipad is too slow. You already answered the Q I asked. I'll reply in next post...

 

[soamz]

Here is a link for the epson projector-- throw distance-- click on the light blue circle which says "distance calculator"

Epson EH-TW8100 - Epson

Screens come in diagonal of 150", 133", 120" 16:9 format

I checked that calculator and its confusing for a PJ newbie like me.

So, I think, its better to build the room first and then call the AV professional from ProFX to calculate and see what is what and what can be done.

 

[soamz]

133 would be perfect for you.

You know what will be easier? Tell us what you intend to watch here. Regular movies or 3D bluray or tatasky HD or sports. Like I intend to watch tatasky HD 60% , blu rays 20%, 3d bluray 5% and about 10% ps3/360 gaming. So for me a 1,77:1 screen made sense since majority of my content will be that ratio only. Also I have a motorised screen in a non dedicated room so adding curtains to a cinema wide screen wouldn't have been easy.

Epson 3d glasses are 6000 per glass, rechargeable. Samsung glasses will work too, cheaper (Rs 1400 appx) and use button cells. I preferred persons but price diff made samsung an obvious choice.

Only BluRay Movies, nothing else.
May be xbox games later this year. But 98% movies only, original BluRay discs.

 

[nSinghal]

Soamz, most (though not all) movies are not 16:9. Majority of them are wider. So you will get black bars on top and bottom. A fixed 2.35:1 screen will give you zero black bars but that would also mean that screen gets bigger. You'll need even more distance from tw8100 to show 2.35:1 image with the same height as 16:9 image.

 

[nSinghal]

Now lets see. A 133" 16:9 image is 65 inch high. To get the same height from a 2.35:1 image you'll need to use a 176" wide screen. That'll give you a 153"x65" image for wide screen movies. You can easily calsulate screen sizes here... TV Calculator (don't forget to change the content type to see what size you'll get for it)

Only problem will be when you watch 16:9 content on this screen. It'll go a few inches above and below your screen. To correct that you need a PJ with lens memory (ie motorized zoom and focus). Check this page (scroll down for lens memory) to see what I mean.. Panasonic PT-AE8000 Projector Home Projector Review - Overview

You can do it manually too. Having a motorised one is just a hell lot easier.

 

[soamz]

Now lets see. A 133" 16:9 image is 65 inch high. To get the same height from a 2.35:1 image you'll need to use a 176" wide screen. That'll give you a 153"x65" image for wide screen movies. You can easily calsulate screen sizes here... TV Calculator (don't forget to change the content type to see what size you'll get for it)

Only problem will be when you watch 16:9 content on this screen. It'll go a few inches above and below your screen. To correct that you need a PJ with lens memory (ie motorized zoom and focus). Check this page (scroll down for lens memory) to see what I mean.. Panasonic PT-AE8000 Projector Home Projector Review - Overview

You can do it manually too. Having a motorised one is just a hell lot easier.

Im lost. All above my head .
Might look for a turnkey solution as per my requirements.

Better contact the professionals ?

 

[soamz]

Im fine with either fixed or motorized screen.

Just need it to work.

And the screens come with the protective curtains or that is extra DIY stuff ?

 

[nSinghal]

Oh, I meant motorized zoom in the PJ. Not the screen. Here, lemme make it super simple for you. Just give me a couple more details and ill tell you what exactly I'll do if I was in your situation.

I have your room width and length (14' x 15'). I know your PJ choice, and your content preference (ie blu ray movies mostly)

Now tell me the height of the room (floor to ceiling) if you can. Also, is it safe to assume you'll have two rows of seating? With recliners? Lemme know if that's not the case.

You tell me that much and I'll what exactly I'll do if I was in your place instead of confusing you even more with choices and tech jargon

 

[prosenjit]

hi brother...how are you?
one confuseion..you are saying screen you need 16:9..but
are not blu rays 2:35:1 ratio....
sorry i am not sure as dont own blu ray....
what happens about black bar when you run blu ray in your 16:9 tv.......


also
one suggestion as you are going for epson 8100...which has hige light..so you can waste some
take gray screen with less than 1 gain to enjoy true colors just like a cinema hall
check da lite...
they have best screen.little expensive than grandview.
check their cinema models..they have almost 12 types of screen material types..
for da lite contact arn systems delhi..and kiran infotech bangalore...
or the same way come in kolkata..demo it ..take it...

 

[soamz]

Height of the room : 9 feet = 96 inches . Okay ?

If more is needed, then tell me, I can add it to the specs list for the builder.

Im looking to have a false ceiling for a good lighting setup , but then again I think, when we watch movies with good bass, those false ceiling thunders a bit and adds to the bad experience.

So, may