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bornfi said:
AES always sounds better than USB to me. If you can live with a single sample rate, say 44.1 or 48, try some pro gear such as Motu 8D or Dante, you will most probably be surprised with what you are going to hear.
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Hi @bornfi :)

Thanks for the headsup on the Motu devices. Iam completely new to Pro gear. Just curious if the Motu 8D acts like a DDC that is easier for most of us to understand, that is USB input with various digital outputs. Or is it like a multichannel dac. Read up on their page, but mention of Midi and ADAT went over my head 😇
 
Yelamanchili manohar said:
Hi @bornfi :)

Thanks for the headsup on the Motu devices. Iam completely new to Pro gear. Just curious if the Motu 8D acts like a DDC that is easier for most of us to understand, that is USB input with various digital outputs. Or is it like a multichannel dac. Read up on their page, but mention of Midi and ADAT went over my head 😇
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Yeah, these pro gears look scary but they aren't. Once you get the purpose, your mind will start helping in sequencing the dots.

It isn't a DAC but just a multi-channel DDC however; we will be using just the two channels.

You will load the software onto a Win or Mac that will let you map USB in to AES out and you are set. The reason I pointed out single sample rate because the unit cannot change the sample rate based on the source but simply up/down sample according to situation.

Also, keep in mind that since this comes with its own SMPS, so, comes with SMPS vs LPS conundrum and yes, LPS takes the performance to next higher level.
 
isoton said:
wo

wow!! high end beauty, please share your experiance .
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In my audio experience (i think most would relate), 98% of things that are flashy and have unique aesthetic value, mostly will be about frills and end up compromising on the sound. Rose belongs to the rare 2% which backs the aesthetics with real quality sound.

+ Sounds Exceptionally Open and Transparent (heard it along side Lumin U2 and Aurender N200)
+ Remarkable openess in the higher end; Damn quiet as well !
+ Plays anything and everything (including its custom Ad free implementation of you tube)
+ Fiberoptic Ethernet port and Fiberoptic USB (Needs an adaptor device)
+ i2S Support
+ Amazing and Responsive Touch Screen with 4k HDMI out to Projectors or Bigger screen
+ Eye candy even when switched off

- Frustrating App (No where near aurendner's class)
- i2S implementation is limited and applicable only to specific DACs
- They tried to make a Social community approach baked in the App which feels like shooting in the dark without purpose
- Unusual screen size ends up being wasted in most videos; Album art and artist name display looks amazing though!
 
Mi_10 said:
In my audio experience (i think most would relate), 98% of things that are flashy and have unique aesthetic value, mostly will be about frills and end up compromising on the sound. Rose belongs to the rare 2% which backs the aesthetics with real quality sound.

+ Sounds Exceptionally Open and Transparent (heard it along side Lumin U2 and Aurender N200)
+ Remarkable openess in the higher end; Damn quiet as well !
+ Plays anything and everything (including its custom Ad free implementation of you tube)
+ Fiberoptic Ethernet port and Fiberoptic USB (Needs an adaptor device)
+ i2S Support
+ Amazing and Responsive Touch Screen with 4k HDMI out to Projectors or Bigger screen
+ Eye candy even when switched off

- Frustrating App (No where near aurendner's class)
- i2S implementation is limited and applicable only to specific DACs
- They tried to make a Social community approach baked in the App which feels like shooting in the dark without purpose
- Unusual screen size ends up being wasted in most videos; Album art and artist name display looks amazing though!
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I beg to disagree here. Real audiophile grade products are not at all flashy, they are raw, crude like Bryston, Naim, Cyrus no frill amps without bass and treble. These brands concentrate only music to the ears, and not to please the eyes.

Stereo HiFi Rig: Cambridge Audio Cxn v2 + Cyrus6 / Elekit tu 8730 300b + ASI Live line power cable + ASI Live line Reference IC + Townsend Isolda speaker cables + Linn Keilidh speakers
 
heliumflight said:
I beg to disagree here. Real audiophile grade products are not at all flashy, they are raw, crude like Bryston, Naim, Cyrus no frill amps without bass and treble. These brands concentrate only music to the ears, and not to please the eyes.

Stereo HiFi Rig: Cambridge Audio Cxn v2 + Cyrus6 / Elekit tu 8730 300b + ASI Live line power cable + ASI Live line Reference IC + Townsend Isolda speaker cables + Linn Keilidh speakers
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It’s the same as what I have said . Just different verbiage ! You may have to read it again 🙂
 
Mi_10 said:
In my audio experience (i think most would relate), 98% of things that are flashy and have unique aesthetic value, mostly will be about frills and end up compromising on the sound. Rose belongs to the rare 2% which backs the aesthetics with real quality sound.

+ Sounds Exceptionally Open and Transparent (heard it along side Lumin U2 and Aurender N200)
+ Remarkable openess in the higher end; Damn quiet as well !
+ Plays anything and everything (including its custom Ad free implementation of you tube)
+ Fiberoptic Ethernet port and Fiberoptic USB (Needs an adaptor device)
+ i2S Support
+ Amazing and Responsive Touch Screen with 4k HDMI out to Projectors or Bigger screen
+ Eye candy even when switched off

- Frustrating App (No where near aurendner's class)
- i2S implementation is limited and applicable only to specific DACs
- They tried to make a Social community approach baked in the App which feels like shooting in the dark without purpose
- Unusual screen size ends up being wasted in most videos; Album art and artist name display looks amazing though!
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Please share your thoughts on the sonic comparison between the RS130, U2, and N200, leaving aesthetics aside and focusing solely on sound quality.

I recently moved from N200 to U2, for AES/EBU.
 
thedude said:
Please share your thoughts on the sonic comparison between the RS130, U2, and N200, leaving aesthetics aside and focusing solely on sound quality.

I recently moved from N200 to U2, for AES/EBU.
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U2 was very good too ! Had superb bold sound, great soundstage and crisp bass. Infact the U2 had a biggest and widest imaging when compared to the other two.
I felt the N200 was slightly down on dynamics over U2 and RS130. It had great mid range and maybe more natural bass.
RS130 the mid and highs were totally outstanding, literally they opened up the soundstage vertically.
In my opinion (in the several tracks i heard), the N200 felt half a notch below both U2 and RS130. Not that N200 is bad, but there was some magic missing in it, which was found in varying degrees in U2 and RS130.

Other Equipment Details:
DAC: Ferrum Wandala Golden Sound + Ferrum LPSU
Amp: Goldmund Dual Mono Int
Speakers: ATC SCM40
Cables: VDH (not sure of model)
Isolation: Finte Element Cera Base

@thedude I am currently using just the USB for connecting DAC, any specific reason for AES/EBU connection ? is it superior ?
 
mbhangui said:
Are you using the allo amp to drive this or the O&B amp. What model is the O&B amp?
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This is a dsp crossover based 3way system. The allo amp drives the compression drivers (for now). The custom O&B 6 channel amp drives two of the 15 inch woofers and subwoofers.. Minidsp flex 8 implements the crossover :)
 
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Mi_10 said:
U2 was very good too ! Had superb bold sound, great soundstage and crisp bass. Infact the U2 had a biggest and widest imaging when compared to the other two.
I felt the N200 was slightly down on dynamics over U2 and RS130. It had great mid range and maybe more natural bass.
RS130 the mid and highs were totally outstanding, literally they opened up the soundstage vertically.
In my opinion (in the several tracks i heard), the N200 felt half a notch below both U2 and RS130. Not that N200 is bad, but there was some magic missing in it, which was found in varying degrees in U2 and RS130.

Other Equipment Details:
DAC: Ferrum Wandala Golden Sound + Ferrum LPSU
Amp: Goldmund Dual Mono Int
Speakers: ATC SCM40
Cables: VDH (not sure of model)
Isolation: Finte Element Cera Base

@thedude I am currently using just the USB for connecting DAC, any specific reason for AES/EBU connection ? is it superior ?
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts—well articulated.

I recently tried a couple of DACs: the Berkeley Alpha and a Meitner. Both offered a presentation over AES that I preferred for the direction I wanted to take, vs USB. The cables I used were a Synergistic Research powered USB, Audioquest Diamond USB, and Studio Connections AES.

I have a good collection of DSDs, and AES won’t handle DSD—but I would still stick with AES.

Details of the rest of the chain are in my signature.
 
Mi_10 said:
U2 was very good too ! Had superb bold sound, great soundstage and crisp bass. Infact the U2 had a biggest and widest imaging when compared to the other two.
I felt the N200 was slightly down on dynamics over U2 and RS130. It had great mid range and maybe more natural bass.
RS130 the mid and highs were totally outstanding, literally they opened up the soundstage vertically.
In my opinion (in the several tracks i heard), the N200 felt half a notch below both U2 and RS130. Not that N200 is bad, but there was some magic missing in it, which was found in varying degrees in U2 and RS130.

Other Equipment Details:
DAC: Ferrum Wandala Golden Sound + Ferrum LPSU
Amp: Goldmund Dual Mono Int
Speakers: ATC SCM40
Cables: VDH (not sure of model)
Isolation: Finte Element Cera Base

@thedude I am currently using just the USB for connecting DAC, any specific reason for AES/EBU connection ? is it superior ?
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Thanks for sharing :)

I've always loved the looks of the Rose RS130. And have been reading high praise about its sound quality too. Since you are using a gustard R26 with clock input. And the RS130 already has clock input, please try getting hold of a 10Mhz clock and two 50 ohm BNC clock cables and sync both the R26 and RS130 to an external master clock and see. In this configuration, you should connect the RS130 to the R26 via Spdif inputs, which are Aes-Ebu, Coaxial, or optical. With Aes-Ebu most times being the best. This is the 2nd best way of connecting the RS130 to the R26 if you have a clock, otherwise I2S is the usually most preferred method.
 
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