Stereo Speakers for Rs 50000-60000

@the OP,considered goin down the used route?i believe the dynaudio audience 72 in the for sale thread by spidey should be a hugely satisfying entry into the great speaker manfr domain,in ur budget too.havent heard it,but :licklips:.cheers
 
Looking at your room size you are right in choosing a BS speaker. I can suggest you few models from the PSB stable:
BS: PSB Synchrony 2B MRP: 75K and they are simply outstanding speakers in this price range and I am sure that you would not need a seperate sub with it.
For More information take a look at this link: PSB Speakers - Synchrony Two B

If in case you change your mind for tower speakers then you could look at PSB Image T6 which has a MRP of 65K approx. Link : PSB Speakers - Image T6 Tower

You can also get a demo of all these models in Delhi as soon as our demo room gets operational in 1 month's time.
 
You have got good suggestions on speakers, but one thing to consider is synergy of components. My suggestion would be to carry your Laptop and DAC and do an audition and see whats sings in line.

Do not audition without your DAC and Laptop.
 
@ Kamal

yes i agree that i need to look into "Sealed Sub Woofer" as i'm looking for a tight, clean and accurate bass response. You suggest Focal Audio Book shelves & a sealed sub. Could you kindly specify the model no.s that i need to look into...? Thanks.

@ Venkat.

Thanks for the suggestions. Where can i demo the products up mentioned in delhi ? Also which particular Benchmark DAC & Active Studio monitors from Dyna Audio are you referring to ? Thanks

@ spirovious

yes B&W 685 are surely on my demo list. They seem to be liked & loved by people all over the world. They must be really "Special".

@ rajapraven

Yes i'm adding the Focal Chorus 706S to my Demo list. Thanks for providing the links. They look pretty good too.

@ rallynut

I'm open to used route.... though the dynaudio audience 72 seem to be floorstanders and i have a 12 x 10 room so mostly will have to get a pair of book shelf.

@ ashishkesarwani

Thanks for the recommendations. I have added PSB Synchrony 2B to my demo list. Also kindly inform me when i can demo them at your demo room.

@ madbullram

Yes i will be carrying my Laptop for demo purposes. though i have yet to get a DAC. Do you think the HRT Music Streamer II or nuforce uDAC fits my needor are there others u recommend. I'll only be using my laptop as a input so i mostly only need a USB based DAC.

@ Rem & aku

Could you kindly specify the Klipsch model no.s ? But as aku mentioned they are more about quantity of bass rather than quality then i might mostly skip them.


Now to the most important part....


@ square_wave & sonosphere

Hi guys... Both of you have very valid suggestions in reagards to Bass.

Square....

to some degree i agree that Hip-Hop, Dance, House, Trance, Techno is designed for "Overwhelming bass in the room" & the "The music is created for such an application" in your words.

at the same time i agree with Sonos when he says...

"I have been considering that you need tight, "thumpy" bass, not the discotheque type overbearing bass."

That being said i have a few key points....

1. The mix of music is "Hip-Hop, Dance, House, Trance, Techno" + Pop, Rock & also Hindi music & ocassional Jazz, Blues & Instrumental.

So i'm looking for an "All Rounder kind of Speakers but with more emphasis on Pop, Rock, Hip-Hop, Dance, House, Trance, Techno.

Is that a reasonale quest ? or is my search itself wrong ?

2. The music will be heard at below medium to high medium levels 90 % of the time & very ocassionally at high volumes.

That brings me to the very important point of...

3. "Bass"

I'm looking for a "tight, clean and accurate bass response". Something which is soothing and not very fatiguing over a no. of hours of listening. I dont want very thumping, discotheque kind of overbearing bass although my choice of music "Hip-Hop, Dance, House, Trance, Techno" might suggest that.

Hence i'm willing to move towards a pair of stereo speaker which might have a very soothing, non fatiguing sound. I'm willing to settle for slightly less bass as that can be compensated by adding a "musical sub" later on.

I dont want to get speakers which have too much bass but not clear mids & highs. But if there are Book Shelves Speakers which have good mids, highs and at the same time decent to good levelsof bass then that is most ideal scenario. So the question is...

A. Do i buy speakers with good highs, mids & weak bass and add a sub...?

or

B. Do i buy speakers which have good highs, mids & good bass too...? Is there a Bookshelf like that out there ?

Thanks
 
I do not want to boast but I think that all the quality you are looking at will be fulfilled by the PSB BS. About the demo thing: at this stage the Lakozy Delhi showroom is under construction and its going to take another month to complete, but in the mean while if you travel to Mumbai then you can have a demo there as well at Lakozy and then decide.
 
Hi Rana,
See my opinion in blue below:

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Now to the most important part....
That being said i have a few key points....

1. The mix of music is "Hip-Hop, Dance, House, Trance, Techno" + Pop, Rock & also Hindi music & ocassional Jazz, Blues & Instrumental.
So i'm looking for an "All Rounder kind of Speakers but with more emphasis on Pop, Rock, Hip-Hop, Dance, House, Trance, Techno.
Is that a reasonale quest ? or is my search itself wrong ?

Sono: It's a feasible quest. For a start you can begin with ashishkesarwani's suggested model... if you want BS only solution.

2. The music will be heard at below medium to high medium levels 90 % of the time & very ocassionally at high volumes.
That brings me to the very important point of...

3. "Bass"
I'm looking for a "tight, clean and accurate bass response". Something which is soothing and not very fatiguing over a no. of hours of listening. I dont want very thumping, discotheque kind of overbearing bass although my choice of music "Hip-Hop, Dance, House, Trance, Techno" might suggest that.
Hence i'm willing to move towards a pair of stereo speaker which might have a very soothing, non fatiguing sound. I'm willing to settle for slightly less bass as that can be compensated by adding a "musical sub" later on.
I dont want to get speakers which have too much bass but not clear mids & highs. But if there are Book Shelves Speakers which have good mids, highs and at the same time decent to good levelsof bass then that is most ideal scenario. So the question is...

A. Do i buy speakers with good highs, mids & weak bass and add a sub...?

Sonos: Yes, I would specify further that the BS shouldn't go lower than 50 Hz in the declared specs (Actually there is no such thing like a brick-wall filter type cut-off at 50 Hz here... rather its a steep slope). In such case Bass management of BS is easier (put it anywhere as long as its 6 inches away from wall... no muddy /boomy bass problems). Now for freq lower than 50 Hz, go for musical sub. Subs offer far more options in placement (web is full of a million articles on sub placement). Furthermore the this sub can also be part of your Home theatre setup. Talk about judicious use of a single resource!

Usher S520 has ok bass. For Rs 24k it delivers amazing SQ /detail /soundstage... the works. It has slightly forward sound. If paired with a warm detailed amp it will sound well balanced (it sounded like heaven to me with Jaton Operetta power + Shindo pre). Thouth Marantz amp is not known to be warm, my hunch says it should still sound ok with Usher S520. I suggest don't spend more on other BS until you've heard these Ushers. Rather divert the savings towards the musical sub.

BTW you may be aware that BS + Sub option is being suggested because of your 12 x 10 room size. For a room size of 24 x 16 and like, FS will give the best "united sound" from low freq to hi.

or

B. Do i buy speakers which have good highs, mids & good bass too...? Is there a Bookshelf like that out there ?

Sonos: This can be done but involves a risk that you cannot give sufficient clear space (2.5 feet recommended) behind a BS that goes as low as 35Hz with flat overall response. Further more if one of your BS ends up being closer to wall corner, whereas the other is almost near middle of room, you end up with the unsolvable problem of physics, i.e the corner BS haviing bumped up bass (... don't even think of expensive room acoustic treatments or equalizer to resolve this. It will never be as good as symmetrical placement of the BS stereo pair.)

Thanks
 
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Rana,

I thk you should be auditioning the Klipsch the RF series will give you the right model numbers soon the BS shoulld be enough I guess I dont thk there is any prob with the quality of the bass but then it depends on the individual. So you can audition it if possible. Klipsch & Polk are known to be good for the kinda music you mentioned.

you can check ou their BS RB-61, RB-81 or the floorstanders RF-82

Just for your reference i am giving you this link as well a review from whathifi for their BS RB-81

http://www.whathifi.com/Review/Klipsch-RB-81/
 
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I got an audition for Paradigm floorstanding speakers at Pune (Quaris Electronics, Camp) with Norge 2060 amp. The demo was so powerful!!!...The technicial told me that the Norge 1000 will be even more powerful....

Though Norge is indian but god Value For Money. You can try for the matching NAP amp as well. Though I never heard NAD but I guess it will be more branded and amp for the Canadian brand Paradigm. NAD is also canadian I guess.
 
Can any body post a first hand review on Wharfedel Diamond 10.7? This falls right in the middle (55000) of the budget mentioned in the first post. Those floorstanders look pretty impressive. Any views folks!:rolleyes:
 
Hi,
While you are looking for 10.7, do take a look at its earlier incarnations, i.e 9.5 and 9.6. Many people prefer the ealier incarnations. If you like the Wharf sound signature /character, definately audition the 9.5 and 9.6 before making final decision. (the 10 series looks better than 9, however I suggest you to overlook that and focus on sound with eyes closed...:))
Regds,

Can any body post a first hand review on Wharfedel Diamond 10.7? This falls right in the middle (55000) of the budget mentioned in the first post. Those floorstanders look pretty impressive. Any views folks!:rolleyes:
 
Hi Rana,

My suggestion is , instead of going for 2 channel , go for 5.1 or 7.1 channel system.

You can listen to music as well and enjoy the movies with surround sound.

Most of the home theater a/v recievers comes with in built mode PLII music, Neo-music..etc for better listening experience of music.

If you have surrond speakers, your a/v receiver will mix the stereo music and apply to all speakers ..so your ears will be filled with sound. It will be definitely better than listening in traditional two channel speakers.

In case if you want to switch to only two speakers, you can put the a/v receiver in stereo mode.

I think for just stereo speakers 50,000 to 60,000 is too high unless you want to go for high fidelity speakers. something like martinlogan speakers( MartinLogan | Premium Speakers for Home Theater & Stereo)

I would recommend

If you need more terible , clean sound

Paradigm (BOOK shelf) speakers (willcost you arnd max 20,000 for pair)

If you need more bass

Infinity /FOCAL speakers with good sub woofer (like Velodyne subwoofer)
(will cost you arnd 20,000 speaker pair + 20,000 for wooofer approx)

Since you want to play music from PC/LAPTOP. You have to get the good soundcard (not sure whether you pc already has one). Get good sound card which can send the signal in higher bit rate to a/v receiver.
 
Hi Rana,

My suggestion is , instead of going for 2 channel , go for 5.1 or 7.1 channel system.

You can listen to music as well and enjoy the movies with surround sound.

Most of the home theater a/v recievers comes with in built mode PLII music, Neo-music..etc for better listening experience of music.

If you have surrond speakers, your a/v receiver will mix the stereo music and apply to all speakers ..so your ears will be filled with sound. It will be definitely better than listening in traditional two channel speakers.

In case if you want to switch to only two speakers, you can put the a/v receiver in stereo mode.

I think for just stereo speakers 50,000 to 60,000 is too high unless you want to go for high fidelity speakers. something like martinlogan speakers( MartinLogan | Premium Speakers for Home Theater & Stereo)

I would recommend

If you need more terible , clean sound

Paradigm (BOOK shelf) speakers

If you need more bass

Infinity /FOCAL speakers with good sub woofer (like Velodyne subwoofer)
 
@ ashishkesarwani

I'm looking forward to auditioning PSB BS. Do inform as the demo room is ready.

@ sonos

yes Usher S520 is high on my audition list. once i hear them i'll surely let you know how i feel about them. I agree with you that since room is small i got go for BS + SUB. You have given me some very detailed technical tips so wanna thank you for same... Cheers...!!

@ Rem

I've added Klipsh RF to my list. Thanks pal.

@ Brajendu

Please mention the MOdel no. of Paradigm you auditioned. I'll keep Norge Brand in mind for Amp.

@ edjamesx

Bro i've did listen to music on a 5.1 setup for a couple years. I did try all the PLII music modes etc.But somehow did'nt enjoy music coming from all directions. Yes i agree initially i liked it very much and thought it was cool but after much research i learnt that for music listening a Stereo Amp + Stereo Speakers is the best.

Currebtly i'm using Creative Gigaworks T20 since last 1 year... lol....!!! and now i want to upgrade.

I'll keep Paradigm/Infinity/Focal in mind as you suggested but kindly tell me the model no. that you intend to reccommend.

Yes since the music is from laptop i'm adding in a USB DAC. to my laptop so that it can mak my mp3 music sound slightly better. I hope it makes a difference....
 
@ suri

Bro i'm looking for a proper 2 speaker stereo setup... but still thanks for your suggestion ;-)
 
Alright friends...

After taking in everyone's suggestions, and doing my own research i have compliled this list of Book Shelf Speakers that i'm going to Audition......

1. Audio Engine A5 - ( I'm really worried/scared that i or someone in my house will accidently make a hole in the naked speaker cone.)
2. Q Acoustics 2020
3. B&W 685
4. Epoz Aktimate Mini
5. PSB Alpha B1 & PSB - Synchrony Two B
6. Dali Lektor 1 & 2
7. Focal 706V
8. Epos M12i
9. Paradigm Atom Monitor
10. Paradigm Studio 10
11. Usher S520, x - 718
12. Dynaudio DM 2/6 & 2/7 & Excite X12
13. Wharfedale Daimond 10.1
14. Mordaunt Short Aviano 1 & 2
15. Mordaunt Short Mezzo 1 & 2
16. Dali ikon 2
17. Kef iQ 30
18. Rega RS1
19. Monitor Audio BR2 & RS1 & RX1
20. Quad 11L2 & 12L2
21. Polk Lsi, Rti, Tsi
22. Klipsh RB-61, RB-81

Should i add anymore... ? Did i miss any good ones...??

Now here is thought in my mind.... I do realise that when i go to audition these they will all be set up with different Amps which will make it kind of difficult to really know how a pair of speaker would have performed with another Amplifier.

1. What's a way around this problem ?

2. Do generally demo room people keep matching Amps for the corresponding Speakers ?

3. Or is it better that i first decide on a Amplifier and then buy one and then carry that amp to different demo rooms so that i can have a uniform judgement ?

4. But then is there any one Stereo Amlifier which will suit a variety of different Speakers ?

Whats say guys....???
 
Alright friends...

After taking in everyone's suggestions, and doing my own research i have compliled this list of Book Shelf Speakers that i'm going to Audition......

1. Audio Engine A5 - ( I'm really worried/scared that i or someone in my house will accidently make a hole in the naked speaker cone.)
2. Q Acoustics 2020
3. B&W 685
4. Epoz Aktimate Mini
5. PSB Alpha B1 & PSB - Synchrony Two B
6. Dali Lektor 1 & 2
7. Focal 706V
8. Epos M12i
9. Paradigm Atom Monitor
10. Paradigm Studio 10
11. Usher S520, x - 718
12. Dynaudio DM 2/6 & 2/7 & Excite X12
13. Wharfedale Daimond 10.1
14. Mordaunt Short Aviano 1 & 2
15. Mordaunt Short Mezzo 1 & 2
16. Dali ikon 2
17. Kef iQ 30
18. Rega RS1
19. Monitor Audio BR2 & RS1 & RX1
20. Quad 11L2 & 12L2
21. Polk Lsi, Rti, Tsi
22. Klipsh RB-61, RB-81

Should i add anymore... ? Did i miss any good ones...??

Now here is thought in my mind.... I do realise that when i go to audition these they will all be set up with different Amps which will make it kind of difficult to really know how a pair of speaker would have performed with another Amplifier.

1. What's a way around this problem ?

2. Do generally demo room people keep matching Amps for the corresponding Speakers ?

3. Or is it better that i first decide on a Amplifier and then buy one and then carry that amp to different demo rooms so that i can have a uniform judgement ?

4. But then is there any one Stereo Amlifier which will suit a variety of different Speakers ?

Whats say guys....???

Hi Ranakirti

The amount of home work you are doing is mind boggling to me.

If I do this kind of exercise, I'd have been thoroughly confused. I hope you are different.:)

Even with my own Amp, I ended up picking wrong speakers.

All the best for your purchase.

Rgds


Rajesh
 
A beautiful, well-constructed speaker with class-leading soundstage, imaging and bass that is fast, deep, and precise.
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