Tata sky hd

:D thanks guys for this great Forum and discussion. Any way how many Indian SD channels ( Except Set max ) are broadcasting in stereo ??? (please also exempt English Movie channels) Currently few ads are broadcasted in stereo. We Audiophiles have invested lot of money but din't have software other than DVD and now Blue Rays. Lets hope Indian Broadcaster start using technology to the fully.
 
Re: Tata sky hd , USB Ports

Any one Tested the USB ports in Tata Sky HD STB ? pls advice and friends for your info got 2 pics of my TS+ which got hanged :)) the on board Modem and Remote TV menu pics.
 

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I will most certainly accept your opinion, if that is your conclusion. Ofcourse, what defines a 'low end' system is a relative term and subject to personal opinions too. :)

Well well Sanjay! Having repeatedly said that there won't be any difference in the quality of digital sound between an analogue cable and a coaxial one in a low end HT system, you should have a pretty good idea what defines a low end HT right? So you tell me if my Onkyo 3100 is a low end one or not.I will accept it and do the test.

cheers,
sri
 
Well, there is a update on the tata sky HD website
Tata sky HD offer

looks like its launched all over, but dealers in bangalore are divided over the availability of HD box, some say its available and some give a launch date of august 1st.

CC has no clue watsoever.

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Kanth
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I will most certainly accept your opinion, if that is your conclusion. Ofcourse, what defines a 'low end' system is a relative term and subject to personal opinions too. :)

well, In my very humble opinion:p if it works for you, it's good for you. the guy/ girl listening to the system needs to be happy with it. so if a cable change elevates you, great & go for it.

common sense is only a guideline. eventually, AV is about emotion.:)

okay, one quick question - for existing tatasky users upgrading to HD- you get a new stb, right? - do you get also get a new subscriber card?.. the reason I ask is, i'm evaluating a move to HD, but I'd want to keep my existing STB to attach to another TV.

the customer care person i spoke to was rather confused, so i did not get a clear response from him. so any feedback would be great

cheers
 
okay, one quick question - for existing tatasky users upgrading to HD- you get a new stb, right? - do you get also get a new subscriber card?.. the reason I ask is, i'm evaluating a move to HD, but I'd want to keep my existing STB to attach to another TV.

cheers

You can keep your old STB and the new one under the same account. TataSky allows multiple accounts per home. And for Rs. 150 pm for the second connection, they will replicate whatever channels you have on your primary connection :-) Your STB will come with a new card.
 
Well well Sanjay! Having repeatedly said that there won't be any difference in the quality of digital sound between an analogue cable and a coaxial one in a low end HT system, you should have a pretty good idea what defines a low end HT right? So you tell me if my Onkyo 3100 is a low end one or not.I will accept it and do the test.

cheers,
sri

IMHO, the cable is for sending digital signal, so the quality really shouldn't matter (irrespective of low end or high end HT system) as long as it takes "1" and "0" from one end to the other properly. So a basic cable would do as well as a high end cable. Its when an analog signal is passed, that the quality of cable matters as higher resistance can lead to loss of signal quality. A simple comparison is disturbance in video on over-the-air DD (analog) vs. in STB in case of rain. The DD quality can vary subtly, but the STB video quality goes from excellent to bad without much in-between. So if digital connection is bad, your ears will pick up the noise (CD scratch for example). Digital will never go a little worse or little better. If someone uses those words for a digital transmission, its just their mental perception!

Bottomline, don't get fooled by costly digital cable companies. Esp those who sell HDMI cables. Buy the cheap ones and they should do just fine. If you get quality issues, you'll notice them immediately, and they will look and sound "bad". For SPDIF digital, use a regular RCA cable and you'll be just fine!
 
Hi Fulcrum.................have you got an HDMI cable, along with the STB, when you upgraded?

Yes, but its a pretty small one (3 ft I think). You can get quality, cheap cables in electronic shops (most definitely in Budhwar peth shops). Or look for them online too.
 
For some reason some of my posts are not coming through (admin has not approved them yet I guess). Regarding TataSkyHD, I got it from Pune. One of the first installs in Pune :) I searched for Tata Sky on justdial and called one of the folks randomly. He was getting the box and also promised to get it installed within a couple of hours. I got the box delivered to me on Saturday evening and the Tatasky person came to install it next morning. You can contact: Mr Shivaji Khopade at 9890470505 to check if he has more boxes. He is from Yogiraj Electricals at Pashan, Pune.

Regarding Atlona AT-Line-EX, I got it from the US when shifting (for my TV to work here).

Thanks Buddy. I have ordered it thru Tata Sky cc and this time they accepted it for Thane. They said they would install it within next 2 days. Lets see when they really do it.:o
 
Wow! The power of marketing gobbledygook at work again. Leaving aside any arguments over the quality of analog cables and some issues with electrical and radio disturbances under certain conditions, there is absolutely no difference between a Coaxial cable and the so called Audio RCA cable. There is nothing digital about coaxial cables and it is an electrical cable, just like the audio RCA cable. The difference being, that coaxial cables are designed to carry Radio Frequencies. Whereas "audio RCA cables" are designed to carry low frequency electrical signals.

To make it simple, why don't you unplug whatever fancy "Coaxial" cable you are currently using and replace it with 'ANY' standard, 20 rupees, Audio or Video RCA cable. Guess what, you shall still have your 5.1/6.1/7.1 DTS or DD sound. Also, unless you have a very high end sound system and or a very highly tuned hearing, I seriously doubt you will even be able to hear any difference.

But still, If you want the best signal, you should consider a cable that is designed for the digital system. Specially, if long length of cables is required, ie. about 10'+, get a "digital coaxial cable". They are designed with better shielding and for long distances. "Digital transmissions contain low frequency effects which travel along the center of the conductor and high frequency signals that travel on the outer surface of the conductor due to the skin effect- for these reasons uncoated pure copper center conductors are best". In other words, for digital transmissions a solid not stranded conductor is best."

A few tidbits of information:
1. RCA = Radio Corporation of America (An american company).
2. RCA is an acronym used to describe a partiular type of connector (first used by RCA) and not the cable.
3. Coaxial cables can be found with different type of connectors, depending on the use. For the purpose of carrying Digital sound in audio equipment the S/PDIF standard requires RCA connectors.
4. Regular audio/video cables, all use RCA connectors.
5. Regular audio/video cables (RCA) are 50 Ohms use stranded wires and are Unshielded.
6. Coaxial cables (Digital Coaxial) are 75 Ohms use a Solid wire, which is Shielded.
7. Coaxial cable, or coax, is an electrical cable with an inner conductor surrounded by a flexible, tubular insulating layer, surrounded by a tubular conducting shield. The term coaxial comes from the inner conductor and the outer shield sharing the same geometric axis.
8. Some common uses of coaxial cable are: Distribution of Cable TV signals both digital and analog, Connections between antennas and Recievers (Radio, TV, Wireless Transmitters) amongst others.
9. S/PDIF = Sony/Philips Digital Interconnect Format.
10. S/PDIF specifications were designed using a video cable with 75 ohms impedance for the coaxial-digital connection.

PS: I have simplified some of the descriptions to avoid the post from becoming too long and technical.
Err... let's GET a little bit technical ... Digital signal, being pulses, have a huge number of harmonics in them requiring a much higher bandwidth than analog audio. The more high bitrate stuff you send over analog cables, the chances of bit-errors will increase leading to glitches in the audio. It's like sending the signals through a band-pass filter. You are basically converting a broadband signal to a narrow-band one. Digital cables provide the kind of bandwidth necessary to pass major part of the spectrum and therefore reduce the probability of bit-errors. Also they are typically created using oxide free copper leading to lesser errors. Try sending a DTS /DTS ES signal through a normal cable and the quality problems would be obvious.

See, I have a HT setup that is "low-end" to say the least (Onkyo HTS 3100, Sony Wega 29", Sony DVD player, PS3). However, i have a collection of about 300 DVDs, and a lot of them are handpicked versions that contain DTS tracks. I had to get a Bandridge cable for the coax audio from the DVD player to get rid of the glitches.
 
You can keep your old STB and the new one under the same account. TataSky allows multiple accounts per home. And for Rs. 150 pm for the second connection, they will replicate whatever channels you have on your primary connection :-) Your STB will come with a new card.

thanks fulcrum,

that makes things clear. this SD STB is already an add on box. My main box is a tata sky+.

I am in a multistoried building and the cable comes to acommon point in the house and is then distributed to each bedroom. I'm just concerned that they do not insist on pulling 1 more cable through the duct. for the tata sky plus, they insisted on pulling 2 cables instead of taking 1 cable and adding a splitter. then they pulled another cable for the addon tatasky box. I do not think that there is space for a 4th cable in the duct.

let's see what they suggest.
 
thanks fulcrum,

that makes things clear. this SD STB is already an add on box. My main box is a tata sky+.

I am in a multistoried building and the cable comes to acommon point in the house and is then distributed to each bedroom. I'm just concerned that they do not insist on pulling 1 more cable through the duct. for the tata sky plus, they insisted on pulling 2 cables instead of taking 1 cable and adding a splitter. then they pulled another cable for the addon tatasky box. I do not think that there is space for a 4th cable in the duct.

let's see what they suggest.

You are kidding me!! Did they charge you for that? I have one cable with e 1 to 4 spitter attached at the end. 2 of them go to TataSky+, 1 to TataSkyHD. Trust me, there is no need for so many cables for the same signal! So do they have a splitter at the dish instead? You probably have one LNB and the splitter right next to it and then 3 cables coming out of it. What a waste!

There could be a problem in the training of these engineers. The guy I spoke to for my TataSky HD box (the dealer) was also mentioning that 2 cables are needed for the Plus and one more for the HD so it'll take some time. I told him that my Plus has just one cable and he was shocked but conceded he dosn't know much technical stuff.
 
You are kidding me!! Did they charge you for that? I have one cable with e 1 to 4 spitter attached at the end. 2 of them go to TataSky+, 1 to TataSkyHD. Trust me, there is no need for so many cables for the same signal! So do they have a splitter at the dish instead? You probably have one LNB and the splitter right next to it and then 3 cables coming out of it. What a waste!

There could be a problem in the training of these engineers. The guy I spoke to for my TataSky HD box (the dealer) was also mentioning that 2 cables are needed for the Plus and one more for the HD so it'll take some time. I told him that my Plus has just one cable and he was shocked but conceded he dosn't know much technical stuff.

that's what I thought. no they did not charge me extra. do you think you could take a photo of the splitter and upload it here?

thanks
 
I got Tata Sky HD in Hyderabad too thru a local dealer. Installation guy is telling me that wiring need not to change and no need to change LNB also in the dish. I read in an earlier thread that it had to be changed. Can some one confirm whether change is wiring and LNB is a must to receive good clarity?
 
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