Used acoustic portrait ms 301

[viren bakhshi]

Guys,

You are getting caught up in semantics, which is typical of all audiophile discussions.

The bulk of music falls in the 40Hz - 16kHz region; I would say close to 95%. If a speaker can reproduce that range, it definitely is full range. Subwoofer territory I call extended range!

Also there is a mistaken notion of the role of the speaker cabinet. The cabinet primarily defines the low end response of the system. Obviously, the small drivers can't move much air to fully reproduce low frequencies - the cabinet increases their efficiency to do so. In the transmission line designs, which is what the Lyrita Harmony Ones and Twos are, the driver excites the air column at low frequencies, a resonance develops and builds up in amplitude. The cabinet helps the driver.

Regards,
Viren

 

[ajay124]

"You are getting caught up in semantics,which is typical of all audiophile discussions."
Good observation,Viren.Too many audiophile discussions are merely words,words and more words....they have very little to do with actually listening to music.

 

[arj]

Guys,

You are getting caught up in semantics, which is typical of all audiophile discussions.

The bulk of music falls in the 40Hz - 16kHz region; I would say close to 95%. If a speaker can reproduce that range, it definitely is full range. Subwoofer territory I call extended range!

Cant help it Viren..have an Audiophile inside me and all this "Control nahin Hota"
in music lover mode my Car Audio (pretty entry level )is more than enough for me..that too playing Mp3s

 

[Dr.Bass]

Yes Viren, 40hz - 16khz can be termed full range as long as the response is flat...I agree.

 

[buswal]

Hi,all,
What is the realistic price for 3 year old acoustic portrait ms 301?
How is it sonically compared with lyrita and audire fullrangers.
I am planning to use it with the topping for now.Will buy a tube amp(most probably lyrita) later.Budget constraints you see.
Regards.

hi,

pl. pm to siva and ascertain what is the current price of ms 301 and you may take that as a base to negotiate for a preowned ms 301.

cheers,

 

[Dr.Bass]

hi,

pl. pm to siva and ascertain what is the current price of ms 301 and you may take that as a base to negotiate for a preowned ms 301.

cheers,

These are no more in productio AFAIK. Last they sold for 48k

 

[iaudio]

Yes, Dr.Bass is right. Those models are not available anymore.

 

[arj]

Even for this range,it does depends on the kind of music on hears..but there is so much music in so many tracks in the sub 40hz..that the music seems like an altogether different one with a full ranger (and perhaps a bit more like it was intended)

I was so happy with a bookshelf untill i put a simple digital equaliser to check out and realised what I was missing..now cannot live without a sub to augment the music.

again choosing to ignore that music and being happy about it is not wrong..but believing that nothing exists below it needs to be taken along the track of "Ignorance is Bliss"



From what I have heard the APs are good speakers ..but I am not sure of how they will react to a topping. Most Class T amps have better current rating at 4 Ohms so my guess is the AP will work well . if you are looking at the single drivers be prepared for a slightly different presentation, but that could float you boat as well.

 

[abhi]

Is this model PR1 the same as the MS301. Pictures and specs look similar.
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[iaudio]

Even for this range,it does depends on the kind of music on hears..but there is so much music in so many tracks in the sub 40hz..that the music seems like an altogether different one with a full ranger (and perhaps a bit more like it was intended)

I was so happy with a bookshelf untill i put a simple digital equaliser to check out and realised what I was missing..now cannot live without a sub to augment the music.

again choosing to ignore that music and being happy about it is not wrong..but believing that nothing exists below it needs to be taken along the track of "Ignorance is Bliss"



From what I have heard the APs are good speakers ..but I am not sure of how they will react to a topping. Most Class T amps have better current rating at 4 Ohms so my guess is the AP will work well . if you are looking at the single drivers be prepared for a slightly different presentation, but that could float you boat as well.

Arj, I do agree with you on that count. There is a lot of music with notes below 40hz and even if these may or may not be natural instruments, one does miss a lot if they are not reproduced, hence a sub woofer( if it is a well implemented one) is necessary, so that the fronts can do the rest of the frequencies without breaking into a sweat!