Best ever deal for loudspeaker kits.

[navin advani]

Increasing influx of FII funds, raising stock values, lowering $ up to a point. When they sense that a plateau has reached, they start liquidating their stocks as a result of which, stock market goes on a downward spiral and the $ will appreciate. This happens till sotck market (and rupee) hits a low and the cycle repeats.

Once Greece defaults, there would be a turmoil of falling stocks all over the world and our stocks would be no exception. It would not be difficult to guess what FIIs would do before that inevitable happens.

Capt. Not to go completely off topic but ...

a. The last increase of the $ (vs the Rs) was not related to FII inflow but becuase the RBI which normally inslulates the public from large payments (in this case totalling about $5 bill.) for Oil (Iran) or Arms (Various) but it did not do so this time. Why dont ask me. I dont know enough.

b. If Greece defaults, yes every stock index in the world will get affected but India is better insulated among the siginificant economies (note I did not say major as we are still not a major economy like say China, Japan, US, etc are).

 

[captrajesh]

Capt. Not to go completely off topic but ...

a. The last increase of the $ (vs the Rs) was not related to FII inflow but becuase the RBI which normally inslulates the public from large payments (in this case totalling about $5 bill.) for Oil (Iran) or Arms (Various) but it did not do so this time. Why dont ask me. I dont know enough.

b. If Greece defaults, yes every stock index in the world will get affected but India is better insulated among the siginificant economies (note I did not say major as we are still not a major economy like say China, Japan, US, etc are).

People who are more knowledgeable may have better analysis but I'm just putting across my two humble cents deriving out of my limited knowledge and understanding. Hope it is OK.

 

[navin advani]

People who are more knowledgeable may have better analysis but I'm just putting across my two humble cents deriving out of my limited knowledge and understanding. Hope it is OK.

Capt. I dont know enough either. Trust me most economists dont know enough either so we (who do not know enough) are in good company. Most economists (even those paid 7-8 giure salaries) dont know which way the market or the $ will turn next. Few of them do any true independant research.

Some analyst in some corner does some research which the economists feel suits their fancy and they publish it. The rest is all window dressing. I am saying this because I have very close friends who are economists (with banks like Citi and Deutche).

 

[captrajesh]

The groupbuy seems to have started to develop some momentum. Nine guys have paid up and the order value now stands at $4774.95.

Since Danny has indicated in the other forum that the Xseries kits can be used for building speakers also in sealed configuration, I have sent a message to Danny to check if we can use the same drivers for building the surrounds similar to the A/V 1RS so that we can get drivers for surround speakers @ 126.65 rather than 194.65, a cool saving of $68 and eagerly awaiting reply after which, I'll make my payment.

 

[Danny Richie]

Hey guys,

Sorry for the delay in responding here. I have been away for a few days on a very overdue vacation with my wife.

An announcement and some details in my circle on AC.

I am going to be missing in action for a few days.


Okay, on to some of the questions....

BTW, Dennis when GR introduced the OB7 why they did not use the 165X for the bass section was the first question that I had. 4 6-7" woofers (like the 165x or Usher 8945) would have eliminated the need for a subwoofer for everything but Home Theater and...

...talking of Home Theater why did GR not release the LS-C (I prefered to call it the CC7) as a regular product?

First of all the name is Danny.

Using the M-165X in the bass section of the OB-7 would have made the front baffle wider. That would have added surface reflections and negatively effected the imaging and transparency of the speaker. The M-165X woofers also require considerable more air space and would have more than doubled the lower cavity. The box is already 15" deep. Making it 30" deep is a bit out of the question.

The LS-C (line source center channel) has been released and can be seen in this thread: A request for Danny - LS Center Channel Kit

 

[Danny Richie]

Thanks for the clarification. I was going nuts trying to figure what was available in this group buy. If ever Dennis puts his Neo3/Neo8 mated to his XBL woofers up in a group buy grab them. I know I would.

Anything and everything that I offer is available and can be shipped with this group buy.

 

[Danny Richie]

Hi Navin, I checked their website but haven't found the "XBL woofers" Is it something new?

My drivers are listed here: Speaker kits, loudspeaker design services, sub-woofers and amplifiers. - Drivers

Two of them use the XBL^ motor design.

You might also note that the price of the M165 woofer, M165-16 woofer, and the T26SG Peerless tweeter that are used in the X series kits that you guys are ordering cost more by themselves than the kits that they come in. That is how far those kits have been discounted.

 

[Danny Richie]

You beat me to you. Good job!

These are the drivers up for sale at GR currently that have the XBL^2 technology:

M130X Woofer

M165X Woofer

Here's more info on the XBL^2 technology:

http://www.adireaudio.com/Files/XBL2DetailsPaper.pdf

 

[Danny Richie]

I got that.

If you want his kit to be shipped to him when the pallet is broke down and not to you then I will need his complete shipping address to put on the label of his box.

Made a payment for X-LS Encore pair on behalf of magma.

@Capt: do update sheet - I might mess it up . magma is mostly off the net due to a refurbishing at his home. I will ask him to sms you his email ID.

 

[navin advani]

Anything and everything that I offer is available and can be shipped with this group buy.

Oh boy an XBL woofer outfitted OB7+ LS Center+NX1 would make nice speaker for both 2 channel audio and home theater! :thumbsup:

I gotta show pictures of these to the person who is doing up our apartment. A 50" wide center channel speaker is not common. Danny is there a 4 woofer version of the LS-Center also avialble? I remember seeing pictures of one somewhere.

BTW what, if available, would the XBL kits for the OB7, LS Center and N1X cost in this group buy? Can the OB7's OB section be used MMT instead of MTM?

Using the M-165X in the bass section of the OB-7 would have made the front baffle wider...and would have more than doubled the lower cavity. The box is already 15" deep. Making it 30" deep is a bit out of the question.

Oh yes. Just checked the specifications on your website and realised that you recommend three time the Vb for the 165x (1.2 cu. ft ported) as you recommend for the 130X (0.4 cu. ft). 4 165X would hence demand a box that is 5 cu. ft! Besides if the 4 165X was used sealed like used in the X-static they would still need about 3 cu. ft. and would still have an F3 of about 50Hz.

I was just dreaming about the power of the 165X mated to the Neo3. Something like a X-Statik Neo like many who followed AV123's 'wetpaint'.

For those of you who have not seen Ruben's work see this old post
A request for Danny - LS Center Channel Kit

 

[josephjohnt]

Hi Danny, can you clear some private messages. I cant send any more as your inbox is full.

 

[captrajesh]

Guys, one of the members has intimated that there is a mistake in the google sheet. Someone has made a payment of $467.45 (paid on 9-Feb-2012) but apparently it is showing against SBG who is just making payment only for LS Encore Stereo speaker pair kit which costs only $126.65.

Kindly check your payments and update if required.

 

[handson]

Guys, one of the members has intimated that there is a mistake in the google sheet. Someone has made a payment of $467.45 (paid on 9-Feb-2012) but apparently it is showing against SBG who is just making payment only for LS Encore Stereo speaker pair kit which costs only $126.65.

Kindly check your payments and update if required.

Hello Capt,

Let me start by giving you special thanks for starting such a great thread. I have been reading this thread for a long time and thought this is one of the best deal and the DIY will give me priceless satisfaction as well. Kindly let me know what is a price for X-LS Encore and X-CS Encore, how to pay and when we will get delievery.

My E-mail ID: [email protected]
Handphone: 09167200240

 

[Danny Richie]

Hi Danny, can you clear some private messages. I cant send any more as your inbox is full.

Sorry about that guys. I thought moving them to a new folder would take care of that full in box deal, but it did not. I have deleted some older messages and have space to receive new ones now.

 

[Danny Richie]

I gotta show pictures of these to the person who is doing up our apartment. A 50" wide center channel speaker is not common. Danny is there a 4 woofer version of the LS-Center also avialble? I remember seeing pictures of one somewhere.

No, but there is the N3S (N3 in a sealed box) that uses just two woofers.

BTW what, if available, would the XBL kits for the OB7, LS Center and N1X cost in this group buy?

I offered a 15% discount on them for this group buy.

Can the OB7's OB section be used MMT instead of MTM?

No.

I was just dreaming about the power of the 165X mated to the Neo3.

Actually the standard OB-7 using the M130X woofers work just as well and in a smaller space. They are also slightly faster as they have less moving mass than the larger M165X woofers. Then just add a servo sub to cover the bottom end and you're done.

 

[sethunr]

Guys, one of the members has intimated that there is a mistake in the google sheet. Someone has made a payment of $467.45 (paid on 9-Feb-2012) but apparently it is showing against SBG who is just making payment only for LS Encore Stereo speaker pair kit which costs only $126.65.

Kindly check your payments and update if required.

Hi Capt,

$467.45 is the exact payment that I have done to Danny. I tried to update the google sheet sometime back and after updating it was reflecting in my name. Then couple of days later came to know that the sheet is all messed up. Then I requested you to update on behalf of me.

Thanks
Sethukumar

 

[captrajesh]

Hi Sethunr I have no access to net; I'm browsing from my mob. I'd appreciate if you could do the honours. I've shared the google sheet with all those who provided me their mail ids.

 

[omishra]

Hi Sethunr I have no access to net; I'm browsing from my mob. I'd appreciate if you could do the honours. I've shared the google sheet with all those who provided me their mail ids.

okay I have done it 467.45 against 'Sethunr', pleae verify.

 

[sbg]

okay I have done it 467.45 against 'Sethunr', pleae verify.

Looks good, and I've removed duplicate entry for SBG.

 

[navin advani]

I offered a 15% discount on them for this group buy.

Actually the standard OB-7 using the M130X woofers work just as well and in a smaller space. They are also slightly faster as they have less moving mass than the larger M165X woofers. Then just add a servo sub to cover the bottom end and you're done.

Sorry, Danny with a thread that is 80+ pages long I missed that 15% discount.

My 'space' (aka living room) is about 12' x 27' with one of the 27' walls opening up via a 10' wide opening to a 20' x 10' dining area. Front Speakers will be along the 12' wall.

Whichs subs do you recommend. The MFW-15 however is not available anymore.:sad:

BTW I just looked at the X-Statik, X-LS Encore and X-Voce designs and the deal at $379/pr, $149/pr and $189/ea is rather enticing. Superbly mad value more so given that the XO is supplied and cabinet details are all done but my heart prefers the 'Neo3 and XBL' based speakers.:licklips:

Capt. Rajesh, what sort of overhead have you estimated for Shipping, Insurance, and Duties? My guess is about 50% of the sale value?