Bose AM5 Series III - Your Comment Please.

[square_wave]

The bose philosophy itself is to make "pleasant sound" which appeals to most people with mediocre gear. They do a very good job of this.They actually specialise in this vertical. Philips dvd / Yamaha AV receiver is no surprise ! Believe me, this is what most people want !

It is the equaivalant of a kodak point and shoot in photography !

 

[deba]

The bose philosophy itself is to make "pleasant sound" which appeals to most people with mediocre gear. They do a very good job of this.They actually specialise in this vertical. Philips dvd / Yamaha AV receiver is no surprise ! Believe me, this is what most people want !

It is the equaivalant of a kodak point and shoot in photography !

Thats True and very nicely said........I have seen a person writing reviews of music in The Statesman (Kolkata edition) and he uses a Philips Boom Box to listen to his music before writing his reviews.......:lol:

Oh God his reviews are just as misleading/inferior as the sound he listens from his system.....

 

[deba]

Edit: The Bose source was a cheap Philips DVDP costing 3 to 6 K max and the amp was a Yamaha AV Receiver (Never checked the model sorry). So keeping that in mind it did not sound poor. The question is only - does it sound great and is it VFM? Not for me compared to my existing setup, but for others? They may never realize what they are missing.

HTH
Regards

Same here in Kolkata a Philips and Yamaha, No it doesnt sound great compared to other true hifi products and hence no VFM possible......they are over priced........

 

[SKR]

I wanted to add a Thank You to your post, but I did not know how to say Thanks for the combination of superb humour, sarcasm, superiority complex and a host of other things all put together. Simply superb.

BUT, irrespective of what we all think and say, Mr. Bose has continues to laugh all the way to the bank year after year lapping up a billion dollars every year. Hats off to him.

Cheers

Venkat said correctly what matters is success and being able to sell and make a big customer base and ultimately make huge money.
World over audiophile community is very very small and if u ask a common EDUCATED MAN say a DOCTOR OR an ENGINEER on the road if he ever heard of Meridian or wilson Audio or Jeff Rowland, chances are 95 to 99% will say "NO".
But if you ask about Bose may be 25 to 50% will admit knowing about it. same as Yamaha, and pioneer and other few popular brands which are well known but these brands came much later in music and are basically in home theatre system then pure music. Though lately all of them are making systems for music also.

Mid range is where most of the music lies and what we listen most. Bose has
voiced his system which are appreciated by these 25 to 50% and these people do not care about crossover point or impedance matching or damping factor of amps.
If one goes to Bose showroom and is asking technical things which they do not provide means Bose is not for him and he falls in the category of 1 to 5%
of priviledged critical listeners called Audiophiles.

 

[gobble]

If one goes to Bose showroom and is asking technical things which they do not provide means Bose is not for him and he falls in the category of 1 to 5%
of priviledged critical listeners called Audiophiles.

Nothing privileged here .. just a matter of developing taste no?

Cheers

 

[deba]

Another factor for Bose success is Price. Though we state it as an overpriced product but compared to other manufacturer the price of Bose Speakers are much reasonable and maybe their practical approach towards audio without going into technical jargons are liked by most people because at the end of the day we all want to listen to music then measuring technical specification........maybe the success of Bose lies there..........

I was also quiet amazed to see that the Buyers Guide of AV MAX has all types of speakers listed but not Bose.......maybe its because Bose is considered too inferior compared to other speakers or Bose is so popular that it needs no further reviews or introduction.........the way the entire audio industry deals with Bose is really interesting which prompted me to start this thread.......:lol:

 

[cha_indian]

It seems audiophiles follow the 'herd'. IT doesen't matter if Bose is good or bad to a person X. You got to trust your ears and decide.

When i listened to a Bose speakers for the first time in a bakery store, i was quite amazed at the clarity and loudness of the speakers. Even the bass effects were comming from small cube shaped speakers. Bose speakers are very good at mid range.

 

[square_wave]

It seems audiophiles follow the 'herd'. IT doesen't matter if Bose is good or bad to a person X. You got to trust your ears and decide.

When i listened to a Bose speakers for the first time in a bakery store, i was quite amazed at the clarity and loudness of the speakers. Even the bass effects were comming from small cube shaped speakers. Bose speakers are very good at mid range.

Nope. We listen and decide

Your statement is the same as saying "Anyone who buys an SLR camera over some point and shoot follow the herd ! "

People who want to take some serious photographs need to buy an SLR. There is no alternative !

 

[stevieboy]

it would be very interesting to see how many 'audiophiles' can actually identity bose versus any other set up in a blind test... just idle speculation...

 

[gobble]

it would be very interesting to see how many 'audiophiles' can actually identity bose versus any other set up in a blind test... just idle speculation...

If somebody can carry in a Bose speaker set from their secret collection of Bose speakers (like the secret collection of BoneyM and ABBA some jazz lovers have) for the Bangalore Hifi meet we would do a blind test.

Cheers

 

[deba]

If somebody can carry in a Bose speaker set from their secret collection of Bose speakers (like the secret collection of BoneyM and ABBA some jazz lovers have) for the Bangalore Hifi meet we would do a blind test.

Cheers

Its a great idea......jokes apart...you can seriously do it and post the results in this forum......

Say a B&W Zeppelin versus Bose Sound Dock 10 and B&W 685 / 686 with Bose 301/201.

 

[gobble]

Its a great idea......jokes apart...you can seriously do it and post the results in this forum......

Say a B&W Zeppelin versus Bose Sound Dock 10 and B&W 685 / 686 with Bose 301/201.

Not sure if anyone wants to "expose" their secret passion for Bose.
Besides sometimes opinions are absolute and people feel no further comparisons are needed... either when you like something or dislike it ... so I wonder if the Bose Busters on this forum are really interested in spending their valuable time on coming to the same conclusion about Bose again ...

Cheers

 

[deba]

Not sure if anyone wants to "expose" their secret passion for Bose.
Besides sometimes opinions are absolute and people feel no further comparisons are needed... either when you like something or dislike it ... so I wonder if the Bose Busters on this forum are really interested in spending their valuable time on coming to the same conclusion about Bose again ...

Cheers

 

[square_wave]

yet, some of the most serious & historic photographs have been captured by the Leica M-series which strictly ain't a SLR.....:licklips:

Yup. Some of the non-slr's and point and shoots are quite good these days. I am not being fair to them when I compared them to Bose

 

[deba]

After all these bashing Bose will look like this::lol:

 

[SKR]

I think looking at the size of Bose as a company and their revenues they can easily hire a respected High-end speaker designer to produce a really highend audiophile grade cost no object speaker or a mid to low price speaker which ever range they want.
If a company like Usher audio of Taiwan can take help of Krell chief designer to design and produce decent speakers why not Bose.
But Bose is not interested to enter into that rat race where too many are competing for too little sales volume.
Bose very well knows and reads the comments of "Bose Bashers" but doesn't really take them seriously as Bose has its own marketing strategy in which they are successful and have a big market share world over. Why should they design extreme high end speakers and sell just a few thousant speakers in a year.( may be few hundreds only)
They have highly qualified professionals in designing and marketing and they understand their product and their limitations as well and what Bashers talk about them. But still they are doing so well. Because they are targetting masses. Those 25 to 50% who care about decent sound and ease of listening and placement.

 

[square_wave]

I think looking at the size of Bose as a company and their revenues they can easily hire a respected High-end speaker designer to produce a really highend audiophile grade cost no object speaker or a mid to low price speaker which ever range they want.
If a company like Usher audio of Taiwan can take help of Krell chief designer to design and produce decent speakers why not Bose.
But Bose is not interested to enter into that rat race where too many are competing for too little sales volume.
Bose very well knows and reads the comments of "Bose Bashers" but doesn't really take them seriously as Bose has its own marketing strategy in which they are successful and have a big market share world over. Why should they design extreme high end speakers and sell just a few thousant speakers in a year.( may be few hundreds only)
They have highly qualified professionals in designing and marketing and they understand their product and their limitations as well and what Bashers talk about them. But still they are doing so well. Because they are targetting masses. Those 25 to 50% who care about decent sound and ease of listening and placement.

They will not do it. It will confuse the current potential customer base. It can be a Biz-dev nightmare !

Bose will not do anything to jeopardize the party they are having now.

 

[bhanja_trinanjan]

After all these bashing Bose will look like this::lol:

Wow! That flow looks nice, rounded, warm and musical.... :lol:

 

[gobble]

Last weekend, I was in Chennai for the Kutcheri season, and stepped into the lovely large auditorium of Music Academy. I sat through two lovely concerts - one by Ranjani and Gayathri, and another with Mysore Nagaraj.

Guess what sound equipment they use over there ...?

Bose!!Bose!!Bose!!Bose!!Bose!! Bose!!Bose!!Bose!!Bose!!Bose!!

Heard that echo?!! Yep you got it right!! hyeah: My ears rang with the Bose(TM) sound for more than 5 hours


A committee that had a budget of a few lacs for the sound setup got sold on the Bose(TM) sound (read marketing noises) over the many others they could have afforded.

So did I have any revelation? Did I marvel at some hitherto undiscovered quality I had missed earlier on account of being a poor budget conscious stingy choosy picky lousy customer? I had heard Bose setups that cost below 50K in the showroom... But would the many lacs rupee equivalent system change my opinion about Bose or stun me into becoming a Bose admirer? hyeah:

To be continued ....

Cheers

 

[deba]

Dont keep us in suspense.Speak out.Or will it be another bashing.
:lol: