spirovious
Well-Known Member
Hallo friends ,
Can we make a list of members who are interested in TC-7510 & go ahead?
Can we make a list of members who are interested in TC-7510 & go ahead?
CD player or ext. DA-converter?
- Thread starter spirovious
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Hi!!
I am interested. I can understand that ordering in bulk could help us get good discount from Stanley. Although, one thing to note here is the custom duty on bulk purchse. It should be noted that a bigger amount shall be dealt with customs in a different way than a smaller amount.
Please input your thoughts on this.
Sumit.
I am interested. I can understand that ordering in bulk could help us get good discount from Stanley. Although, one thing to note here is the custom duty on bulk purchse. It should be noted that a bigger amount shall be dealt with customs in a different way than a smaller amount.
Please input your thoughts on this.
Sumit.
If there is a benefit to puchasing in bulk, I think I will pick one up too. However I think the customs duty for personal import will be much lesser. Maybe we can collect our orders and place it with Stan for bulk discount, but he can ship each one individually to our home address?
Regards
Regards
You guys going for the MK6/4 not the earlier version right? Just spent 3 hours reading every post about the Beresford, (http://theartofsound.net), I am convinced it is going to be a great buy.
Cheers
Cheers
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spirovious
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If total price comes less than 7k, we can save 1k.I think, I was told that shiping to Mumbai is free?
moserw
New Member
maniac_2004
Member
would also be intrested. Pl let me know when do you plan to go ahead ...
Hi Guys,
I have been busy with various things, so excuse my absent.
For orders from India only to members of hifivision I am trying to work out a good deal. A couple of members have already placed an order and I am hoping that at least some of them can in good time report on the BB if they are happy with the product, price, etc. After that we can all make a decision on the next move.
As for Customs and import duties: I am an expert
. A product consists of two prices. One is the cost of the components, and one is the cost of the finished products
. I tend to put down the lowest of the two
.
I have been busy with various things, so excuse my absent.
For orders from India only to members of hifivision I am trying to work out a good deal. A couple of members have already placed an order and I am hoping that at least some of them can in good time report on the BB if they are happy with the product, price, etc. After that we can all make a decision on the next move.
As for Customs and import duties: I am an expert
. A product consists of two prices. One is the cost of the components, and one is the cost of the finished products. I tend to put down the lowest of the two.
spirovious
Well-Known Member
sachi
Active Member
I am going to put this to test by replacing the OPA627 I/V stage with a JFET based I/V stage. Also will be replacing the LM317/LM337 regulators with a more discrete design. Am curious to see what comes off of this. On more upgrade in line is the possibility of switching out the oscillator with a tentlabs XO... Only problem with the tentlabs is the extra 4 or 5 volts it needs over my current oscillator which needs just a 5V DC supply.
Can't wait to see how it changes the sound.
Guys
Just to inform all you folks who've been with me from the start of my audio project - my setup is finally ready. I have posted pics on the appropriate forum here:
http://www.hifivision.com/diy/591-diy-audiophile-rack.html#post30823
I will post my experiences, observations and opinions about the many things I learnt about audio and acoustics in the last few weeks soon.
Please take a look
TIA
Cheers
Just to inform all you folks who've been with me from the start of my audio project - my setup is finally ready. I have posted pics on the appropriate forum here:
http://www.hifivision.com/diy/591-diy-audiophile-rack.html#post30823
I will post my experiences, observations and opinions about the many things I learnt about audio and acoustics in the last few weeks soon.
Please take a look
TIA
Cheers
jayanth.911
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hello everyone,
have been a silent member of these forums for a while...
have decided to take the hifi plunge
am also interested in the beresford DAC...
but i stay in bangalore .
Is there any way i can be part of the group deal if it is happening ??
cheers
jayanth
have been a silent member of these forums for a while...
have decided to take the hifi plunge
am also interested in the beresford DAC...
but i stay in bangalore .
Is there any way i can be part of the group deal if it is happening ??
cheers
jayanth
hello everyone,
have been a silent member of these forums for a while...
have decided to take the hifi plunge
am also interested in the beresford DAC...
but i stay in bangalore .
Is there any way i can be part of the group deal if it is happening ??
cheers
jayanth
I am in Bangalore too.. Welcome to the BBC ( Bangalore Beresford Club)
Cheers
moserw
New Member
I am in Bangalore too.. Welcome to the BBC ( Bangalore Beresford Club)
Cheers
Anyone from HBC (Hyderabad Beresford Club) apart from me?
jayanth.911
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Have you already got one ?
if so how would you rate it ?
i am planning to connect
PC optical out --> DAC --> CA 340/540 A--> speakers ???
is that a good idea ?
if so how would you rate it ?
i am planning to connect
PC optical out --> DAC --> CA 340/540 A--> speakers ???
is that a good idea ?
spirovious
Well-Known Member
I m in Mumbai,we have 2 option ask Stanley to distribute in grp(Mum,B'lore etc)as once DAC enters India,local transport charges are less(additional 500)
If they r coming via Mumbai ,its good for me.
Other opt favours me.My brother is in B'lore,so I can get it from there too.
If they r coming via Mumbai ,its good for me.
Other opt favours me.My brother is in B'lore,so I can get it from there too.
Not yet, planning to buy. I think it is good VFM based on reviews on other forums and opinion of other forum members here.
Regards
jayanth.911
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Mr. Stanley,
any updates on the special deal ?
cheers
any updates on the special deal ?
cheers
I am making this post with great reluctance.
In the initial stages of this thread we were all discussing DAC, NOS and such issues and comparing notes. Spirovious has been, for some time, showing desperation to get a good DAC. Around posting No. 95 or so we started dicussing Beresford DAC. I started doing some surfing to get some information on the Beresford. At the same time, I wrote to Stanley about HifiVision, and our interest in his product. He replied saying he will offer discounts if we get together and buy in bulk. Just as I was smiling with the good news, I came across a number of forum discussions that, to me, were disturbing. One, in particular, said that the Beresford DAC was actually made in Taiwan by a company called Technolink. I wrote a second time to Stanley, mentioning this information and asking for some answers. He replied back
saying it was old news. I wrote back asking some specific questions, but have not received any reply. I waited for nearly 6 weeks, but it has been in vain.
I had also written to one Mr. James at Technolink. He replied and choose to use commercial interests not to tell me anything.
Though I have my own conclusions about these issues, I will step aside and allow members to make their own decision about this set of events. Please do so after reading the verbatim text of my mails.
I see that over the last few posts a number of members are interested in purchasing the Beresford DAC. I have some contact with Chennai Airport Customs and can work with them and some importers to see if we can get 10 pieces or so with minimal customs duty. Of course all the pieces will land in Chennai, and we have to courier each piece to the individual member.
Chennai is a comparitively easier port to import such stuff. If there is enough interest, I will make some enquiries and find out how we can import the DACs and how much duty will be levied.
I am enclosing below all the correspond I have had with Beresford and Technolink. I will be on the road till Sunday evening, and will be able to check only on Sunday evening.
Cheers
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from C. R. Venkatraman <[email protected]>
to [email protected]
date Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 8:04 PM
subject Inquiry from India
mailed-by gmail.com
Dear Sirs:
My name is Venkat and I live in Chennai (nee Madras) in India. I am senior contributor to a Web based Forum called Hifi Vision (India's Audio Video Home Theatre and Hi-Fi Discussion Forum). we have over 2000 members and over 100,000 hits a month.
Many members dsicuss their system configuration before purchasing their equipment. They also write to the forum for advice on imrpvoving the sound output of their systems. One common theme is the use of DAC for sound improvement.
Many of the members already have your TC-7510 DAC, and many more are discussing on purchasing it. I am also one person who is seriously considering purchasing the DAC.
I notice today that your web site has a flash news, 'Shipping MK6/4 with MOD21'. Can I have some details on this how it represents an improvement on the working of the DAC?
Thanking you,
yours sincerely,
CR Venkataraman
Chennai, India
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from Stanley Beresford <[email protected]>
to "C. R. Venkatraman" <[email protected]>
date Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 12:08 AM
subject Re: Inquiry from India
Hi Venkat,
I shall have a look at your forum and maybe even join.
The MOD21 is a change I did to the standard 44.1KHz anti-aliasing filter network. The DAC accepts inputs up to 96KHz, so the 44.1KHz filter limit is a restriction that is not good for perfect palyback of anything other than 16 bit CD audio. With the mOD21 you hear a lot more detail, especially on DVD audio tracks.
If you can find enough members who are interested in the DAC I can do you an export box that contains 12 pieces. The price to forum members for an export box is U$1320 plus shipping.
That is about U$110 each. Shipping to India is roughly U$150 for the box. The normal price of just one DAC is about U$150.
Regards,
STan
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from C. R. Venkatraman <[email protected]>
to [email protected]
date Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 12:08 AM
subject Re: Inquiry from India
mailed-by gmail.com
Dear Sirs,
I had sent you an email asking some details on your Mk6/4 Mod 21.
I have read some troubling news on the Net about your product. There is a link that shows that identification marks of ICs and other parts on the baords inside have been wiped out.
True hifi for all for music and cinema at your home theater - tc 7510 beresford.
There is another thread that shows that there is a Taiwanese company with an identical product and same model number?
Converters - Technolink Enterprise Co. - Audio amplifiers, phono preamp, Audio Mixer, A/V switcher, Phono accessories, Integrated Stereo Amplifier, Controllers, Audio controller, Speaker controller, Audio control, vedio control, Speaker volume contro
What is the relation? Can I please have some explanation?
Sincerely,
Venkat
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from Stanley Beresford <[email protected]>
to "C. R. Venkatraman" <[email protected]>
date Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 12:18 AM
subject Re: Inquiry from India
Hi Venkat,
check the age of the post with the IC removed. It is several years old.
I part own the business in Taiwan.
Stan
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from C. R. Venkatraman <[email protected]>
to Stanley Beresford <[email protected]>
date Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 12:16 PM
subject Re: Inquiry from India
mailed-by gmail.com
Mr Beresford:
I am afraid these answers are not enough for me. I will understand if you decide not to answer me, or think differently, but here goes:
1. The age of the post is not material. Whenever it happened, it did. And if so, why did it happen. What were the circumstances?
2. Regarding your relationship with Technolink, if you own part of the business, I have the following questions:
a) Why is the ownership/relationship not mentioned anywhere in both the web sites?
b) Who designs the 7510, If it is you, why is that not mentioned in the website of Technolink?
c) Why is it that the Technolink website has more details on the product than your website?
d) Are you importing a base product from Technolink and modifying it as many Modders do in the US? If so why is this not mentioned? Where is the product manufactured?
e) If you are serious about your business, are you ready to send a unit for evaluation by one of our members? Many of our members have extremely high end equipment. We can also use a member's service who has mid priced but serious equipment.
Contrary to many forums, HifiVision has serious members who use the advise they get here to go and buy equipment. And contrary to many members in any forum, I am very particular about what I write and what I say. This has become essential, as many members wait for me to say something, and I take that seriously.
Thanking you,
yours sincerely,
Venkat
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from C. R. Venkatraman <[email protected]>
to [email protected]
date Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:00 AM
subject Fwd: Inquiry from India
mailed-by gmail.com
Mr James:
My name is Venkat and I am writing to your from Chennai (Nee Madras) in India. I am senior adviser in a public forum called HiFiVision (India's Audio Video Home Theatre and Hi-Fi Discussion Forum). Many of our members are looking at DAC for their systems, and we came across a DAC by a British company called Beresford. While checking on the product we came across a few points that disturbed us. One was that the Beresford product had the same model number and look as your product the Digital Converter TC-7510.
I worte to Mr. Stanley Beresford, the owner of Beresford in the UK.. He has written back (as shown below) that he is part owner of Technolink.
I would be obliged if you could confirm this so that I can inform the members about the relationship between Technolink and Beresford. If there is really a relationship, are the products manufactured in your factory and distributed by Mr. Beresford? Who designs these products?
I would appreciate a reply.
Thanking you,
yours sincerely,
CR Venkataraman
Chennai - India
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from TCC-James <[email protected]>
reply-to TCC-James <[email protected]>
to "C. R. Venkatraman" <[email protected]>
date Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 8:09 PM
subject Re: Inquiry from India
Dear Venkat,
Thanks very much for your e-mail and your interest in our TC-7510.
Please be advised that Stanley Beresford is my cousin, and we do not disclose commercial information that could cause other companies to copy our products and sell fakes with our name on it.
I am in charge of production in Taiwan and design work is team work. Both Taiwan and UK are involved since our products are sold world wide and different countries have different taste and laws on electronic products on sale.
Generally, we in Taiwan take care of orders bigger than 500 pcs. For smaller quantities and technical support, Stanley Beresford in UK handles it. That is the way we do it, and it helps us to share the work load fairly.
Thanks and regards,
James
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In the initial stages of this thread we were all discussing DAC, NOS and such issues and comparing notes. Spirovious has been, for some time, showing desperation to get a good DAC. Around posting No. 95 or so we started dicussing Beresford DAC. I started doing some surfing to get some information on the Beresford. At the same time, I wrote to Stanley about HifiVision, and our interest in his product. He replied saying he will offer discounts if we get together and buy in bulk. Just as I was smiling with the good news, I came across a number of forum discussions that, to me, were disturbing. One, in particular, said that the Beresford DAC was actually made in Taiwan by a company called Technolink. I wrote a second time to Stanley, mentioning this information and asking for some answers. He replied back
saying it was old news. I wrote back asking some specific questions, but have not received any reply. I waited for nearly 6 weeks, but it has been in vain.
I had also written to one Mr. James at Technolink. He replied and choose to use commercial interests not to tell me anything.
Though I have my own conclusions about these issues, I will step aside and allow members to make their own decision about this set of events. Please do so after reading the verbatim text of my mails.
I see that over the last few posts a number of members are interested in purchasing the Beresford DAC. I have some contact with Chennai Airport Customs and can work with them and some importers to see if we can get 10 pieces or so with minimal customs duty. Of course all the pieces will land in Chennai, and we have to courier each piece to the individual member.
Chennai is a comparitively easier port to import such stuff. If there is enough interest, I will make some enquiries and find out how we can import the DACs and how much duty will be levied.
I am enclosing below all the correspond I have had with Beresford and Technolink. I will be on the road till Sunday evening, and will be able to check only on Sunday evening.
Cheers
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from C. R. Venkatraman <[email protected]>
to [email protected]
date Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 8:04 PM
subject Inquiry from India
mailed-by gmail.com
Dear Sirs:
My name is Venkat and I live in Chennai (nee Madras) in India. I am senior contributor to a Web based Forum called Hifi Vision (India's Audio Video Home Theatre and Hi-Fi Discussion Forum). we have over 2000 members and over 100,000 hits a month.
Many members dsicuss their system configuration before purchasing their equipment. They also write to the forum for advice on imrpvoving the sound output of their systems. One common theme is the use of DAC for sound improvement.
Many of the members already have your TC-7510 DAC, and many more are discussing on purchasing it. I am also one person who is seriously considering purchasing the DAC.
I notice today that your web site has a flash news, 'Shipping MK6/4 with MOD21'. Can I have some details on this how it represents an improvement on the working of the DAC?
Thanking you,
yours sincerely,
CR Venkataraman
Chennai, India
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from Stanley Beresford <[email protected]>
to "C. R. Venkatraman" <[email protected]>
date Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 12:08 AM
subject Re: Inquiry from India
Hi Venkat,
I shall have a look at your forum and maybe even join.
The MOD21 is a change I did to the standard 44.1KHz anti-aliasing filter network. The DAC accepts inputs up to 96KHz, so the 44.1KHz filter limit is a restriction that is not good for perfect palyback of anything other than 16 bit CD audio. With the mOD21 you hear a lot more detail, especially on DVD audio tracks.
If you can find enough members who are interested in the DAC I can do you an export box that contains 12 pieces. The price to forum members for an export box is U$1320 plus shipping.
That is about U$110 each. Shipping to India is roughly U$150 for the box. The normal price of just one DAC is about U$150.
Regards,
STan
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from C. R. Venkatraman <[email protected]>
to [email protected]
date Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 12:08 AM
subject Re: Inquiry from India
mailed-by gmail.com
Dear Sirs,
I had sent you an email asking some details on your Mk6/4 Mod 21.
I have read some troubling news on the Net about your product. There is a link that shows that identification marks of ICs and other parts on the baords inside have been wiped out.
True hifi for all for music and cinema at your home theater - tc 7510 beresford.
There is another thread that shows that there is a Taiwanese company with an identical product and same model number?
Converters - Technolink Enterprise Co. - Audio amplifiers, phono preamp, Audio Mixer, A/V switcher, Phono accessories, Integrated Stereo Amplifier, Controllers, Audio controller, Speaker controller, Audio control, vedio control, Speaker volume contro
What is the relation? Can I please have some explanation?
Sincerely,
Venkat
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from Stanley Beresford <[email protected]>
to "C. R. Venkatraman" <[email protected]>
date Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 12:18 AM
subject Re: Inquiry from India
Hi Venkat,
check the age of the post with the IC removed. It is several years old.
I part own the business in Taiwan.
Stan
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from C. R. Venkatraman <[email protected]>
to Stanley Beresford <[email protected]>
date Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 12:16 PM
subject Re: Inquiry from India
mailed-by gmail.com
Mr Beresford:
I am afraid these answers are not enough for me. I will understand if you decide not to answer me, or think differently, but here goes:
1. The age of the post is not material. Whenever it happened, it did. And if so, why did it happen. What were the circumstances?
2. Regarding your relationship with Technolink, if you own part of the business, I have the following questions:
a) Why is the ownership/relationship not mentioned anywhere in both the web sites?
b) Who designs the 7510, If it is you, why is that not mentioned in the website of Technolink?
c) Why is it that the Technolink website has more details on the product than your website?
d) Are you importing a base product from Technolink and modifying it as many Modders do in the US? If so why is this not mentioned? Where is the product manufactured?
e) If you are serious about your business, are you ready to send a unit for evaluation by one of our members? Many of our members have extremely high end equipment. We can also use a member's service who has mid priced but serious equipment.
Contrary to many forums, HifiVision has serious members who use the advise they get here to go and buy equipment. And contrary to many members in any forum, I am very particular about what I write and what I say. This has become essential, as many members wait for me to say something, and I take that seriously.
Thanking you,
yours sincerely,
Venkat
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from C. R. Venkatraman <[email protected]>
to [email protected]
date Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:00 AM
subject Fwd: Inquiry from India
mailed-by gmail.com
Mr James:
My name is Venkat and I am writing to your from Chennai (Nee Madras) in India. I am senior adviser in a public forum called HiFiVision (India's Audio Video Home Theatre and Hi-Fi Discussion Forum). Many of our members are looking at DAC for their systems, and we came across a DAC by a British company called Beresford. While checking on the product we came across a few points that disturbed us. One was that the Beresford product had the same model number and look as your product the Digital Converter TC-7510.
I worte to Mr. Stanley Beresford, the owner of Beresford in the UK.. He has written back (as shown below) that he is part owner of Technolink.
I would be obliged if you could confirm this so that I can inform the members about the relationship between Technolink and Beresford. If there is really a relationship, are the products manufactured in your factory and distributed by Mr. Beresford? Who designs these products?
I would appreciate a reply.
Thanking you,
yours sincerely,
CR Venkataraman
Chennai - India
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from TCC-James <[email protected]>
reply-to TCC-James <[email protected]>
to "C. R. Venkatraman" <[email protected]>
date Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 8:09 PM
subject Re: Inquiry from India
Dear Venkat,
Thanks very much for your e-mail and your interest in our TC-7510.
Please be advised that Stanley Beresford is my cousin, and we do not disclose commercial information that could cause other companies to copy our products and sell fakes with our name on it.
I am in charge of production in Taiwan and design work is team work. Both Taiwan and UK are involved since our products are sold world wide and different countries have different taste and laws on electronic products on sale.
Generally, we in Taiwan take care of orders bigger than 500 pcs. For smaller quantities and technical support, Stanley Beresford in UK handles it. That is the way we do it, and it helps us to share the work load fairly.
Thanks and regards,
James
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