comparison of Indian products and foreign products

[alpha1]

I'll tell you everything about my product except the price. For that, you have to come into the back room, close the door, and sign a non-disclosure agreement...

Guys. is it a cultural thing? I'm sure it is more widespread than W Bengal. I see pages of small ads for second-hand cars in my newspapers, and not one of them mentions the expected price. In my mother country, all such ads would, simply, be ignored!

There cannot be any reason other than the fact the seller being greedy wants to not disclose the upper limit of the price. Neither does he want you to make an intelligent comparison after knowing the prices.

Yes, this might be a cultural thing.

 

[Thad E Ginathom]

A buyer inadvertently takes 'only' the service imparted to him when he is on a buying trip. The slightest of indifference shown by a seller goes against the buy decision of the product .... period! Now, who is at a bigger loss? THE BUYER OF COURSE. Just because of 'the buyer ego', one has lost out on a real wonderful buy?!

Sure. I had to do the real selling job once, with a girlfriend who, faced with exactly the car she wanted, at the best possible price she would ever get, refused to buy because the salesman would not even add a pair of mudflaps. Her desire to win the bargaining regularly led to not acquiring something she wanted. Equally, I've walked away from rude salespeople, even though it has cost me in the end.

(Oh, and I got the mats and the mudflaps: I told the guy I'd made the sale for him and I wanted my commission :lol: )

 

[drkaushik]

^ Bongolis are very poor at marketing! Sonodyne's owner is a Bengali and still sticks to the age-old and outdated formula of word-of-mouth. A huge section of newbies, who otherwise would lap up the product range is lost out on.

I didn't find prices on ONKYO's India website.Similar for YAMAHA India.Will also not forget to mention AP products.You didn't mention them.
Is it because they are not owned by BENGALIS?

 

[avidyarthy]

I didn't find prices on ONKYO's India website.Similar for YAMAHA India.Will also not forget to mention AP products.You didn't mention them.
Is it because they are not owned by BENGALIS?

I did'nt comment anything either on prices or on its indications. There are far to many other parameters in marketing other than just 'price'.

 

[manoj.p]

^ Bongolis are very poor at marketing! Sonodyne's owner is a Bengali and still sticks to the age-old and outdated formula of word-of-mouth. A huge section of newbies, who otherwise would lap up the product range is lost out on.

Surely, you haven't heard of Bose speakers?

 

[anuragn]

Surely, you haven't heard of Bose speakers?

I like this one.
If you have seen a big corporate house, just check their marketing dept. You are sure to find lots of bengalis!
Anyway, even Norge as a company is not marketing-savvy and the owner is not a bengali. And even DNM, I've not seen their ads other than in AV Max and What HiFi.

Disclaimer: I am not a bengali

 

[avidyarthy]

Surely, you haven't heard of Bose speakers?

Dr. Bose is a pucca American.
His father who migrated in the 1940s was a Bong, and married a US lady. So, one may say, Dr. Bose to be more American than anything else!

 

[avidyarthy]

I like this one.
If you have seen a big corporate house, just check their marketing dept. You are sure to find lots of bengalis!
Anyway, even Norge as a company is not marketing-savvy and the owner is not a bengali. And even DNM, I've not seen their ads other than in AV Max and What HiFi.

Disclaimer: I am not a bengali

Yep, you are right there.

BUT, there is a lotta difference in (marketing) attitude of Bongs placed outside WB. They have either consciously learnt or forced to learn the tricks of the trade .. for survival. All said and done, they do possess creativity. Its in their blood! So, adaptability is very fast. A lot depends on the ambient environment too, IMO.

As far as Norge and DNM are concerned, just give a look to the speed of their responsiveness. You do not need to advertise too much, in case you are small. However, the speed at which you service the prospective customers gives off positive vibes. Alas, thats not the scene with resident (WB based) companies. One gets cheesed off at the lethargy exhibited!

(Dis)claimer: I am a Bengali

 

[manu george]

before one year when I had a plan to upgrade to a home theater package I have auditioned
a lot of htib's and avr 5.1 package combinations.
onkyo hts9300 thx,energy rc micro,boston soundware xs etc are few of them.
they all priced really high in Indian market.
When I got a chance to hear sonodyne I was blown away.
but when comparing with the original price of foreign products Indian products are still steps to climb.
I think the problem is with our government.
Only rich people can buy a good home theater in India.

 

[elangoas]

but when comparing with the original price of foreign products Indian products are still steps to climb.
I think the problem is with our government.
Only rich people can buy a good home theater in India.

Yes..They need to up themselves in the current market scenario..Else they wouldn't stay long....

I wouldn't say problem with the government....

They wanted to groom the Indian manufacturers & give them some space to compete against the products that are being imported....And also to create more jobs in inda when companies start to manufacture here....

We are still a developing nation & a weaker economy....

Imagine what happens when the govt decides to remove the duty ?

Poeple will start importing goods which will eventually lead to no Jobs for manufacturing any goods in India...

Hence the duty...

But the govt can consider revising the policy...(Only Example)

Any product up to $1,000 sold internationally, 10% duty
Anything above $1,000 - $2,000 20% duty...
Anything more than $3,000 - 30% duty....

Rather than stiff 30% duty on all price range...hyeah:

 

[vinshar]

I heard (Not sure) now days duty structure in India is almost comparable to US and other European countries, though still we are on higher side. Even if consider duty difference between US and India @ 20-25% then also cost of any product in India should not be high more then 25% because in India duty on electronics goods are almost 27-28%.

Almost every thing is manufactured in China and shipping from China to US should be more expensive then to India, apart from this product liability and warranty comittment levels are different in US and due to this fact difference between India and US should be lesser.

In last may be margins charged in India is higher then the developed counties, or cost of doing business in India higher then the other countries.

Request other members to share their thought on this subject so we can enhance our limited knowledge base.

 

[elangoas]

I heard (Not sure) now days duty structure in India is almost comparable to US and other European countries, though still we are on higher side. Even if consider duty difference between US and India @ 20-25% then also cost of any product in India should not be high more then 25% because in India duty on electronics goods are almost 27-28%.

Almost every thing is manufactured in China and shipping from China to US should be more expensive then to India, apart from this product liability and warranty comittment levels are different in US and due to this fact difference between India and US should be lesser.

In last may be margins charged in India is higher then the developed counties, or cost of doing business in India higher then the other countries.

Request other members to share their thought on this subject so we can enhance our limited knowledge base.

As far as i know, China & US have Trade free Agreement....So anything ported from China into US will be exempted from Duty and hence the price of electronics (or) Hi - Fi are dirt cheap & atleast affordable to them...

India in a similar way had Trade free agreement with Thailand.....But only few things are exempted from duty...(Not Electronics)...

I would say cost of any Imported Hi-Fi product is ridiculously priced in India...

 

[shibashis]

Fascinating discussion here. I would venture to add my own 2 paisa here,
Historically Bengalis (like me), or at least the majority of us are laid back, and not shall we say 'commercially' minded. One prime example is a Bengali student even today is very much inclined to study 'pure' subjects such as English, History, Physics, or Maths, rather than take up application oriented courses of the same. One prime example, the Calcutta University I think till date offers B.Sc in Computer Science but not B.C.A. While we have been valuing the finer practices of mind, i.e literature, creativity, arts and science, others have used the products of these endeavours or monetized them successfully.

Bit more pro-activity and initiative on our (all Bengali's) part will help matters, and the approach needs to be more practical. Sonodyne is a good, if not great example of the state of affairs of industry in Bengal. Great product and intentions, but an ancient obsolete approach to reach the consumers or the targeted market.

 

[deba]

Indian made hi-fi brands are quiet good but the only area they lack is the product finishing.....look at a Denon or Marantz then a Norge......)