HELP - Crossover Designing

Bumped into this post today after a long break.

@jmascreen You can also try REW (Room Equalizer Workshop) to measure your impedance of the drivers. In my case i directly connect the headphone output to mic-in without any issue. I am using a sense resistor to avoid over-load.

If you share only the measured impedance curves of the woofer & Tweeter, I can do a simulation for you on the weekend as am relatively free.
 
Greetings

I am designing a crossover for my New DIY TQWT with dayton drivers. However I am feeling that the crossover is not that perfect.

Day_Ton.jpg


I do see a drop from low to high and wants to achieve somewhat near to the yellow line. Can you guys please help me on achieving it.

Drivers
Woofer -DayTon DA175-8
Tweeter - DayTon DC28F-8

Crossover details are - 2nd order Linkwitz-Riley with Lpad for tweeter and Impedance EQ for Woofer.

A quick glance seems like its a tweeter phase reversal and overlap of crossover frequencies. May be the driver impedance is not accurately measured.
 
Thanks Hari to jumping in. Let me give a shot with REW & the suggested method by you.

Bumped into this post today after a long break.

@jmascreen You can also try REW (Room Equalizer Workshop) to measure your impedance of the drivers. In my case i directly connect the headphone output to mic-in without any issue. I am using a sense resistor to avoid over-load.

If you share only the measured impedance curves of the woofer & Tweeter, I can do a simulation for you on the weekend as am relatively free.
 
Here comes the measurements

With ARTA

Woofer
DA175_8_ARTA_29_08_2014_SPL.jpg

Tweeter
DC28_F_8_ARTA_29_08_2014_SPL.jpg


With data imported to REW
Woofer
DA175_8_REW_29_08_2014_SPL.jpg

Tweeter
DC28_F_8_REW_29_08_2014_SPL.jpg


Please let me know if this is correct. Fingers crossed..
 
These are FR, i need Impedance curve. I can recreate FR from impedance, also share the drivet TS parameters.
 
About your measurement mic: later on, whenever you want to build a better measurement rig, you can consider buying one or two Panasonic WM-61 mic capsules for a few dollars each from eBay. They will ship to you from Taiwan or some such country by ordinary post and you'll not have any Customs hassles. These mic capsules are among the most flat measurement mics you can imagine at these really ridiculous prices. You have to fix the capsule to the end of a narrow aluminium or PVC tube, and then solder leads to it. I've used this setup for 7 years before switching to my current rig.
 
Sure, I will order it and make it ready as suggested by you. However could you please suggest on current measurements how far i need to reach more?

About your measurement mic: later on, whenever you want to build a better measurement rig, you can consider buying one or two Panasonic WM-61 mic capsules for a few dollars each from eBay. They will ship to you from Taiwan or some such country by ordinary post and you'll not have any Customs hassles. These mic capsules are among the most flat measurement mics you can imagine at these really ridiculous prices. You have to fix the capsule to the end of a narrow aluminium or PVC tube, and then solder leads to it. I've used this setup for 7 years before switching to my current rig.
 
Sure, I will order it and make it ready as suggested by you. However could you please suggest on current measurements how far i need to reach more?
Your current measurements for SPL seem to be good enough. Not being familiar with ARTA, I will not be able to give detailed feedback.

The next step for you is to measure impedance. For that, you need an impedance jig.

I have no access to any pointers for ARTA-specific instructions. But if you use Speaker Workshop, check Claudio Negro's website and read everything there.

You need a small and simple piece of hardware to measure impedance, in addition to your sound card. Make this thing once and keep it carefully; my hardware which I made in 2006 is still going strong and will last another decade, I think. It is a contraption with three RCA cables and one precise resistor. That's all it takes.. The resistor must have a precise known value; use only metal film resistors. I use a set of 10 100-Ohm 1% metal film resistors in parallel, to get a precise 10-Ohm resistance value.

There are two types of hardware which people use -- the Wallin Jig and the Claudio Negro impedance cable or impedance jig. DO NOT ATTEMPT THE WALLIN JIG. It is too complicated as a beginner, and totally unnecessary. Make the impedance jig or impedance cable, as described in Claudio Negro's site. Use that, with your sound card and Speaker Workshop (or ARTA, I don't know) for impedance.

The impedance jig, with Speaker Workshop, has other benefits too. It lets you measure capacitances and inductances precisely. I use this jig instead of an LCR meter to measure inductances precisely and effortlessly. Very useful for passive crossovers.
 
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@ hari iyer
which are the perfect matching woofers with Peerless TL26SG tweeters for a bookshelf
And what about its cross over design?Already have a pair TL26SG tweeters,
 
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