Need guidance on next upgrade – WiiM Amp Ultra vs Speaker upgrade (Budget 78K)

If you buy good speakers ,then their potential will be realized only if you have a good amp to drive them . So its complementary . Your current Marantz has low power and will not be able to drive your new speakers to full potential , hence you need an amp first and then floor standers.

If you had a amp in the range of 100 watts at 8 ohms then you could have upgraded your speakers first .

Since you don't use loudness and prefer source direct , Dirac is of no use to you . Its going to change the character of sound just like loudness or tone controls or equalizer
 
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If you buy good speakers ,then their potential will be realized only if you have a good amp to drive them . So its complementary . Your current Marantz has low power and will not be able to drive your new speakers to full potential , hence you need an amp first and then floor standers.
A low powered amplifier can damage tweeters when it is driven into clipping. So once you have new speakers your amplifier should be capable of driving it. But at the same time truth is that change of speakers brings the maximum change in sound.
 
One of my friends casually visited my home and asked me to play my setup. I played “Oh Yeah” by Touch Yello and “Just Like Love” by Steve Strauss, and he was blown away. His first reaction was that it felt like the singers were performing right in front of him, dead center.

This has made me even more excited about the future—when I move from an entry-level setup to a higher-end journey. I know the M1 alone won’t take me all the way there, but paired with truly high-end speakers, excited about how this overall experience is going to be.
 
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DIRAC is good. But in my opinion at this stage this amount should be added to speakers so as to ensure better components in the system. DIRAC should be the last step in fine tuning a matured setup.
Exactly. First invest on Good Amp and speakers.Then cables.
 
please correct me if my assumption is wrong
I would drive home the point that I believe you can't go wrong either way. You can buy the amp now and change the speakers later, or you can buy the speakers now and change the amp later. Either approach is fine. What matters is you find the sound you are looking for.

The reason I made the statement above is cause you were looking for a "different sound" - for that particular need - my reasoning is that a speaker will obviously make a larger impact towards a different sound.

Also - you are already extremely happy with your system - so you know what budget speakers and amplifiers can do if setup well. You are already where most of us would like to be. That is already a rare case.

From here law of diminishing marginal utility applies. For example - a 3x speaker won't give 3x performance. It never happens - not in my experience.

Thanks!
 
The reason I made the statement above is cause you were looking for a "different sound" - for that particular need - my reasoning is that a speaker will obviously make a larger impact towards a different sound.
BA26 are my first pair of speakers—and the PM5005 is my first amp as well. I had heard the KEF Q350 at ProFX a long time ago (they were beyond my budget then). I also auditioned Q Acoustics Q2010/Q2022 and a few other brands before finally choosing the BA26.

I had auditioned the BA26 with the PM5005 at MZ Audio, but they sound very different and excellent at home now. That was the moment I realised how complicated the journey of finding the perfect-sounding setup really is. So I decided to rely on expert opinions here, since it gives me options backed by real user experience.

Initially, I thought I needed a different sound signature and considered buying new speakers within my current budget. But I wasn’t sure if the PM5005 could drive them properly, and synergy mattered a lot. Based on expert suggestions here, I decided to change my plan and gained confidence to first upgrade to a higher-end amp within my budget, rather than buying speakers I wasn’t sure my PM5005 could handle.

Even though convenience wasn’t my main priority, the amp + streamer combo gives me that as a bonus—and the sub-out option aligns with what I was considering as my upgrade path (options 1 and 2).
 
BA26 are my first pair of speakers—and the PM5005 is my first amp as well. I had heard the KEF Q350 at ProFX a long time ago (they were beyond my budget then). I also auditioned Q Acoustics Q2010/Q2022 and a few other brands before finally choosing the BA26.

I had auditioned the BA26 with the PM5005 at MZ Audio, but they sound very different and excellent at home now. That was the moment I realised how complicated the journey of finding the perfect-sounding setup really is. So I decided to rely on expert opinions here, since it gives me options backed by real user experience.

Initially, I thought I needed a different sound signature and considered buying new speakers within my current budget. But I wasn’t sure if the PM5005 could drive them properly, and synergy mattered a lot. Based on expert suggestions here, I decided to change my plan and gained confidence to first upgrade to a higher-end amp within my budget, rather than buying speakers I wasn’t sure my PM5005 could handle.

Even though convenience wasn’t my main priority, the amp + streamer combo gives me that as a bonus—and the sub-out option aligns with what I was considering as my upgrade path (options 1 and 2).
what kind of songs do you listen to?
 
If you know source of such speakers my sincere advice to you will be to start internet direct marketing of such speakers with world-wide distribution after keeping a good profit for yourself. You will always have handful of orders.
have you head DSP on and off before in a room with bad acoustics? 30k or 30000k, if the room is bad, then the speakers will sound bad. Acoustics is the first choice and DIRAC live auguments it well. Not all can afford acoustics worth lakhs. In such cases, Room correction is a boon especially in the bass region. You think your room and speakers sound flat until you hear what a Dirac can do, unless your room+speakers are rally flat but 90% of rooms are without huge acoustics are not.
What dsp have you used before?
You don't need full bandwidth most of the time. Limited bandwidth at $159 will suffice the most.
 
have you head DSP on and off before in a room with bad acoustics? 30k or 30000k, if the room is bad, then the speakers will sound bad. Acoustics is the first choice and DIRAC live auguments it well. Not all can afford acoustics worth lakhs. In such cases, Room correction is a boon especially in the bass region. You think your room and speakers sound flat until you hear what a Dirac can do, unless your room+speakers are rally flat but 90% of rooms are without huge acoustics are not.
What dsp have you used before?
You don't need full bandwidth most of the time. Limited bandwidth at $159 will suffice the most.
I use dbx loud speaker management system in my system. It is used as PEq, Compressor and Limiter in my system. Yes I do believe in room. Is DIRAC only means of room calibration and room correction? No. There are free softwares available for measurement and software on which digital filters can be implemented. For someone hard pressed for funds, DIRAC is not a must have tool. All that DIRAC does can be done for free as main aim is to have a well calibrated system and not DIRAC enabled system.
 
Someone who has power of deep and reasonable analysis would always put forth that whatever DIRAC does can also be achieved with free softwares that are available. There are free measurement softwares and digit filters that are there through which the same thing can be achieved. Only the scale of achievement will differ while using the software and DIRAC.
My analogy of not spending $250 on DIRAC for speakers costing 30K to 40K was not flawed. It might have looked flawed to you as I guess you are not aware of what DIRAC does can be achieved through other free software.
To achieve well calibrated system DIRAC is not a must have tool. Please educate yourself. You lack knowledge.
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I use dbx loud speaker management system in my system. It is used as PEq, Compressor and Limiter in my system. Yes I do believe in room. Is DIRAC only means of room calibration and room correction? No. There are free softwares available for measurement and software on which digital filters can be implemented. For someone hard pressed for funds, DIRAC is not a must have tool. All that DIRAC does can be done for free as main aim is to have a well calibrated system and not DIRAC enabled system.
Dbx cannot control timings and cannot do bass management. Can it? Besides, it is a digital system. What is the quality of adac in such PA management systems?

Tell me how can he implement the free softwares in the marantz m1?
 
I normally listen to wide range of music including English Pop, Yosi Horikawa, Touch Yello, Jazz, Hip hop, A.R. Rahman, Ajay-Atul, Pritam, Vishal Shekhar etc.
I was thinking to suggest willsenton r8 as an alternative but looking at your choice of music, looks like m1 suits better.
 
I use dbx loud speaker management system in my system. It is used as PEq, Compressor and Limiter in my system. Yes I do believe in room. Is DIRAC only means of room calibration and room correction? No. There are free softwares available for measurement and software on which digital filters can be implemented. For someone hard pressed for funds, DIRAC is not a must have tool. All that DIRAC does can be done for free as main aim is to have a well calibrated system and not DIRAC enabled system.
I guess you’re planning to dive into vinyl world. Do you really want to introduce a cheap adac between your expensive vinyl setup and speakers? Proper acoustics is the only way out for you along with analog graphic eq. For digital, it is a different story. When someone has a hardware (which he already paid for) to install dirac live. It is smart to go with dirac live than any other room correction options.
 
Dbx cannot control timings and cannot do bass management. Can it? Besides, it is a digital system. What is the quality of adac in such PA management systems?

Tell me how can he implement the free softwares in the marantz m1?
After measurement through RTA mic, delays are fed into the system and based on measurement, digital filters are implemented through PEq.
Marantz M1 is not a source. Correction is implemented at source or through DSP before amplifier.
 
I guess you’re planning to dive into vinyl world. Do you really want to introduce a cheap adac between your expensive vinyl setup and speakers? Proper acoustics is the only way out for you along with analog graphic eq. For digital, it is a different story. When someone has a hardware (which he already paid for) to install dirac live. It is smart to go with dirac live than any other room correction options.
For analogue setup, I am getting an analogue PEq device with 12 frequency bands for correction. Both my music rooms are properly treated. I like my music to be of specific type and hence there is use of Parametric Equalizers
 
After measurement through RTA mic, delays are fed into the system and based on measurement, digital filters are implemented through PEq.
Marantz M1 is not a source. Correction is implemented at source or through DSP before amplifier.
M1 is a streaming amplifier with streamer built in. Theres no way filters can be put as far as I know. Even if it is not a source, a dsp would cost more than $150- the price of dirac live basic version.
 
I am not against DIRAC. It does its job fairly well. Only thing that I thought was for OP to invest as much funds as possible for speakers without diverting funds for DIRAC from funds he/she can gather for speakers.
One can opt for DIRAC at later stage. It is more important to ensure that speakers have good components in crossover and speakers with quality crossover components come at a cost. The role of crossover is very important to ensure smooth sounding, better integrated and easy to listen speakers.... One which enables you to have emotional connection with songs.
This is what I have learnt in 2 years of my journey in hifi. Most of the components in my system are pre-owned as pre-owned stuff are available at considerable lower rate but at the same time you ensure that you are getting quality stuff.
 
I am now more inclined toward upgrading to the M1. After your suggestion, I went through many user reviews, and it seems to be a small powerhouse capable of driving several high-end floorstanders—speakers I can’t consider right now due to budget constraints. But being optimistic, I may eventually buy the speakers I’m currently unable to consider (and you’re unable to suggest because of my budget) and pair them with the M1—hopefully creating a “match made in heaven.”
Your current budget will be fully absorbed by the Marantz M1, which means there won’t be much left to allocate toward new speakers right now. That said, if you do decide to go for the M1, it pairs beautifully with Bowers & Wilkins speakers—particularly the newer 600 and 700 series. I once heard the M1 driving a B&W 705 S3 Signature, and the synergy was so captivating that I was completely taken in. The tonality was seductive, refined, and immersive. On my own wish list now are the 705 S2/S3, provided I can find them at a sensible price.

One thing to keep in mind: as you move up the amplifier spectrum, you begin to uncover subtleties and nuances in your music that lower-tier amps simply don’t reveal. For context, my daily driver from 2021 until earlier this year was the Cambridge Audio CXA81. It’s a solid performer—capable of driving most loudspeakers with ease and delivering a sound that’s consistently good, though not always spectacular. It’s versatile, but it doesn’t quite reach the heights of more refined amps.

Along the way, I experimented with tube amplifiers like the Willsenton R8 and R800i. They sounded gorgeous, but they weren’t practical for daily use, especially with the kind of listening I do. Ultimately, convenience won out, and I upgraded from the CXA81 to the Kinki Studio EX-M1+. That transition was eye-opening. The CXA81 has a muscular, engaging presentation, but the Kinki Studio elevated the experience with far greater refinement: improved layer separation, holographic soundstage, vivid imaging, and a sense of detail that remained compelling even at low volumes. That last quality is rare—many amps lose their magic when played quietly, but the Kinki, Willsenton R800i, and Marantz M1 all manage to stay engaging across the volume range.

Of course, no upgrade is without trade-offs. The Kinki sacrificed a bit of the CXA81’s muscular midrange punch, which I sometimes miss. But overall, it unlocked a higher level of performance from my speakers than I had ever experienced before. That’s the kind of leap you can expect when moving from the PM5005 to the M1.

For comparison, I also used the Marantz PM6006 in my living room setup, and upgrading to the M1 felt very similar to the jump from the CXA81 to the Kinki Studio. In both cases, the upgrade revealed a new level of refinement and control that transformed the listening experience.

P.S. The M1 and CXA81 sit at a comparable level of performance, but each has its own strengths. The CXA81 delivers a larger, more muscular midrange and midbass, while the M1 digs deeper into the bass octaves while also offering noticeably superior grip, offers more neutral mids, and adds sparkle and refinement to the treble. These qualities also make the M1 particularly engaging at low listening levels—a trait that sets it apart.
 
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