paradigm monitor 11 vs klipsch Rf82

[sanjay123]

Guys
I have narrowed down my choice b/w two speakers.
paradigm monitor 11 & klipsch Rf82. please give your inputs.
My interest is 80% music and 20% movies.

Thanks

 

[audiodelic]

Well both are what i would call forward sounding ..... so take some music and listen for long period to both and make sure they are not causing fatigue, you should try out other brands like psb, epos, monitor audio, wharfedale, focal etc.

 

[delhite2]

Guys
I have narrowed down my choice b/w two speakers.
paradigm monitor 11 & klipsch Rf82. please give your inputs.
My interest is 80% music and 20% movies.

Thanks

Well i own rf82's and i have recently auditioned some Paradigms monitor 7&9 as well as RF52&62 and some other as well, as someone close needed to buy a pair or rather a complete 7.1 setup for himself.

The paradigms are simply easily put bad sounding to me, whilst even the RF52 were scores better.

The Reference series from Klipsch are very capable stereo speakers but they do excel further more in HT. for me Klipsch hits the bulls eye when HT is concerned.

So as you have narrowed it down to Klipsch and Paradigm, I can only say one thing that if you buy RF82, boy you wont be disappointed.

 

[sud98]

Well i own rf82's and i have recently auditioned some Paradigms monitor 7&9 as well as RF52&62 and some other as well, as someone close needed to buy a pair or rather a complete 7.1 setup for himself.

The paradigms are simply easily put bad sounding to me, whilst even the RF52 were scores better.

The Reference series from Klipsch are very capable stereo speakers but they do excel further more in HT. for me Klipsch hits the bulls eye when HT is concerned.

So as you have narrowed it down to Klipsch and Paradigm, I can only say one thing that if you buy RF82, boy you wont be disappointed.

Well I guess one man's food is another man's poison. I just hated the RF82's and loved the Paradigm 9's and bought it

So, sanjay, its best you hear them both for long periods and see what you are more comfortable with and buy that.

 

[Kittu]

@op,

Based on your selection of speakers, I see you have a pretty decent budget, as audiodelic mentioned listen to them for long hours and also try out other brands in the same price band.

 

[sanjay123]

please suggest more options in this range. my budget is 1lac for speaker pair.
my primary requirement is to play these speakers with low power tube amplifier. so i need at least 95dB of sensitivity level. watching movies is not criteria. i need them mostly for music. all kinds of music.

@op,

Based on your selection of speakers, I see you have a pretty decent budget, as audiodelic mentioned listen to them for long hours and also try out other brands in the same price band.

 

[sanjay123]

Hi Delhite
how much you spend for RF-82. I dont want them for HT. please suggest if you know any other option with high sensitivity level of around 95dB.

Well i own rf82's and i have recently auditioned some Paradigms monitor 7&9 as well as RF52&62 and some other as well, as someone close needed to buy a pair or rather a complete 7.1 setup for himself.

The paradigms are simply easily put bad sounding to me, whilst even the RF52 were scores better.

The Reference series from Klipsch are very capable stereo speakers but they do excel further more in HT. for me Klipsch hits the bulls eye when HT is concerned.

So as you have narrowed it down to Klipsch and Paradigm, I can only say one thing that if you buy RF82, boy you wont be disappointed.

 

[anm]

lyrita is another brand that makes tube amps and high efficiency speakers to match the tube amps.
You can audition them in Sarita vihar at Viren's place.
They have two lines - harmony = a single driver, and amity - with extra 12" woofer for bass.

 

[ShaQ.Blogs]

please suggest more options in this range. my budget is 1lac for speaker pair.
my primary requirement is to play these speakers with low power tube amplifier. so i need at least 95dB of sensitivity level. watching movies is not criteria. i need them mostly for music. all kinds of music.

For one lakh....you should strongly consider Paradigm Studio towers!! Some of the others in this price range dont come close in terms of performance to this one. These are simply awesome. If I remember it right when i was checking out for speakers, the dealer had mentioned it to be just around 1.1. You should be able to get a good bargain. Dont buy without bargaining big time.

if not this, your Next choice to this would be in my opnion, PSB T6 I have this, I heard dali icon 6 this is really good too...also heard a lot of good stuff about Monitor Audio RX6. You should get a few others too better ones, B&W were good too but overpriced. You should seriously consider the Paradigm Studio. If you do find out could you drop a PM and share the price.

But nuthing to match the likes of PSB Synchrony or paradigm Signature if you can afford them. If you consider paradigm you can get demo at absolute phase, i also know that HT Store - Lokesh will get you a good bargain

 

[anm]

where did you audition the paradigms in ncr?

 

[COOLVIKAS]

go for focal Chorus 836

 

[delhite2]

Hi Delhite
how much you spend for RF-82. I dont want them for HT. please suggest if you know any other option with high sensitivity level of around 95dB.

well i bought them for around 50k. Yeah its been 3years now.

What i meant to say is these are really good 2 channel speakers, and unbeatable for HT purposes should you need to expand your system and should your preferences change .
I've the eq set off on my Avr also the Bass is set to 0db, and if I notch up the Bass to +4db the House starts to shake .
Nevertheless as suggested by sud98 go listen for yourself.

 

[sanjay123]

Hi Delhite
50k is good price, but here in bangalore, ppl are quoting around 80k.
how do you find the RF-82 speakers in midrange. is it too harsh or very detailed? how about long listening hours. do they create any fatigue?
anyway, i am going to audition them. but want to know your musical experience with RF-82.

well i bought them for around 50k. Yeah its been 3years now.

What i meant to say is these are really good 2 channel speakers, and unbeatable for HT purposes should you need to expand your system and should your preferences change .
I've the eq set off on my Avr also the Bass is set to 0db, and if I notch up the Bass to +4db the House starts to shake .
Nevertheless as suggested by sud98 go listen for yourself.

 

[Kittu]

sanjay,

Modern stores had some old stocks of RF series , they were willing to offer 25-30% discount. Check with them.

 

[delhite2]

Hi Delhite
50k is good price, but here in bangalore, ppl are quoting around 80k.
how do you find the RF-82 speakers in midrange. is it too harsh or very detailed? how about long listening hours. do they create any fatigue?
anyway, i am going to audition them. but want to know your musical experience with RF-82.

Yeah so I heard, the prices have risen sharply and the discount has decreased!
yes it is true that the speakers are indeed very revealing and present exceptional sound-stage so much so that it was the first time that i noticed sound quality difference when playing same Audio CD through different CD players, they can play the most intricate of recordings without anything going amiss. Again i repeat it is like hearing certain details which seemed to have been absent before.

I listen to 2 channel with them for 1-1.5 hours without anything such as fatigue, not to mention that I've watched back to back movies on them which means around 3-4 hours.
Hope this helps.

 

[alphacentury100]

Hi sanjay,

In my opinion, I consider klipsche as very unbalanced sounding speakers. I have auditioned rf62 and did not like them one bit. The horn tweeters sounded very harsh.It was very hard listening to those speakers even for less than 30 minutes. I auditioned some comparitively low cost jamo speakers on the same showroom and I liked the jamo sound better and felt the jamo speakers to be sounding more neutral than the klipsche. may be that is how i like it.

Klipsche might be good for movies, but definitely not for MUSIC.

I have also auditioned polk rtia7, monitor audio rs8, monitor audio rx6 and rx8. Out of all these speakers, I prefer the sound of the RX6 & RX8. Rx8 had more bottom end (bass) than the rx6, So I prefered the rx8 for stereo listening without sub, but however, I believe that when used with a good sub, both rx6 & rx8 will sound similarly good. In my opinion, the monitor audio speakers are the best sounding speakers in its price range among the speakers that I have auditioned. Even the BX series sounded great.

Focal Electra 1038 speakers which I auditioned when I went to audition the KEF Q900 speakers were on another league.
I even tried to audition the monitor audio Platinum series when I went for the silver serier, but the dealer did not give a proper demo as he knew that I won't buy those expensive speakers. He just played some unknown song in very low volume just for a minute or 2. So I donot know how well they can sound.

Though I have not heard the Paradigm monitor or studio series speakers, I have read a lot of good reviews about these speakers.
But in the end, all that matters is what type of sound do you prefer. So go and audition all the speakers and choose for your self. However, there is a proble in this too. Since all the speakers are not located in the same showroom and are not connected to same amps or receivers, we cannot come to a decision just by listening to the speakers in a showroom. So, also try to explore the net and read lot of international reviews. I believe the international audio enthuciasists prefer neutral sound, whilst we Indians give less importance to the mid frequency and prefer forward sounding systems(more emphasis towards high frequency). Some of my friends don't even know about sound clarity. They prefer harsh high frequencies and very distorted loud bass they don't even care about the mid frequency and the sound clarity, and some of my friends pref LOUD volume to clarity. So MR. sanjay, what is your sound preference?

 

[delhite2]

Hi sanjay,

In my opinion, I consider klipsch as very unbalanced sounding speakers. I have auditioned rf62 and did not like them one bit. The horn tweeters sounded very harsh.It was very hard listening to those speakers even for less than 30 minutes. I auditioned some comparitively low cost jamo speakers on the same showroom and I liked the jamo sound better and felt the jamo speakers to be sounding more neutral than the klipsch. may be that is how i like it.

Klipsch might be good for movies, but definitely not for MUSIC.

I have also auditioned polk rtia7, monitor audio rs8, monitor audio rx6 and rx8. Out of all these speakers, I prefer the sound of the RX6 & RX8. Rx8 had more bottom end (bass) than the rx6, So I prefered the rx8 for stereo listening without sub, but however, I believe that when used with a good sub, both rx6 & rx8 will sound similarly good. In my opinion, the monitor audio speakers are the best sounding speakers in its price range among the speakers that I have auditioned. Even the BX series sounded great.

Focal Electra 1038 speakers which I auditioned when I went to audition the KEF Q900 speakers were on another league.
I even tried to audition the monitor audio Platinum series when I went for the silver serier, but the dealer did not give a proper demo as he knew that I won't buy those expensive speakers. He just played some unknown song in very low volume just for a minute or 2. So I donot know how well they can sound.

Though I have not heard the Paradigm monitor or studio series speakers, I have read a lot of good reviews about these speakers.
But in the end, all that matters is what type of sound do you prefer. So go and audition all the speakers and choose for your self. However, there is a proble in this too. Since all the speakers are not located in the same showroom and are not connected to same amps or receivers, we cannot come to a decision just by listening to the speakers in a showroom. So, also try to explore the net and read lot of international reviews. I believe the international audio enthuciasists prefer neutral sound, whilst we Indians give less importance to the mid frequency and prefer forward sounding systems(more emphasis towards high frequency). Some of my friends don't even know about sound clarity. They prefer harsh high frequencies and very distorted loud bass they don't even care about the mid frequency and the sound clarity, and some of my friends pref LOUD volume to clarity. So MR. sanjay, what is your sound preference?

It is all about perception isn't it? No not entirely.
A lot also depends on the upstream equipment used.
It would be good to understand the physics of horn which is nothing but a mechanical amplifier so it will amplify and project any input given to it through the Titanium Tweeter.
P.W. Klipsch once said The mid-range is where we live", so to round it off klipsch is not harsh one bit, they play the mids and highs without any distortions and yes now go and listen to all the speakers you've shortlisted.

 

[sanjay123]

I completely agree. its all about individual perception. I have seen large fan following of klipsch speakers over internet. some people like them very much. some leading magazine has given mixed reviews. but whoever owned them, i talked to them, they feel like attaining audio Nirvana with these speakers.

It is all about perception isn't it? No not entirely.
A lot also depends on the upstream equipment used.
It would be good to understand the physics of horn which is nothing but a mechanical amplifier so it will amplify and project any input given to it through the Titanium Tweeter.
P.W. Klipsch once said The mid-range is where we live", so to round it off klipsch is not harsh one bit, they play the mids and highs without any distortions and yes now go and listen to all the speakers you've shortlisted.

 

[reignofchaos]

Klipsch is a good party type speaker if you like rock/metal and can pair it with a good low power, clean SET or Class A amp. It can shine with even 5 watt of quality power. Pair it with an amp that even has a tinge of grain and it'll sound pathetic.

The horn setup in the klipsch speakers are very revealing and at the same time very sensitive. Any distortion from the amp/source will hit you straight on your face.

Do not even dream of pairing a klipsch with an entry level integrated or receiver. It just won't work.

Even though I own a HT setup from Paradigm, I can say that purely for music, a klipsch will give you far better bang for the buck than any paradigm ever will.

Also please listen to Emerald Physics/Usher at ARN and Blumenhofer at The Listening room since you are in bangalore.

 

[audiodelic]

Go listen to Monitor Audio, Paradigm Studio, PSB Image T6 and Focal Chorus: All are good speakers in their own regard depending on the type of sound you will like.

If you already have the tube amp carry it with you to check the pairing also.