Projector Issues

[Dushie]

92GB you sure have the direct copy from Walt Disney and James Cameron.

Yea, both the copies are originals from Blue Ray Disc and each copy is around 45. 5 odd gb.Its equivalent to playing the original disc itself and the PQ is amazing on my PJ when played through xtreamer.

 

[vardu]

Hi Vinay

Can you give details about the actual purchase receipt?

1. Was it made out to Tarazz / SYW or to you?
2. Was the destination address local (US) and if so - was it on the package? (if it was Tarazz - can you give the address here?)
3. Was your Indian address on the package?

4. If the purchaser was a different person can you go ahead and register under your name in the online purchase/warranty?

 

[vinay]

Reju,

I played only 720P, so will check with 1080 and revert. Thanks a lot.

I have 99% of my movies in 720P ranging from 4 to 7GB. Henceforth my first priority will be to download 1080P.

For me there is no question to get into blue ray player, i am any day more comfortable with movies via external hard disk.

I have not heard of screens in full high definition, others can throw light on this but if such screens does exist, then it could be interesting.

Dushie,

I have downloaded some demo's in 1080P, but if still not checked them.

I will be very happy if you can private message me the link from where i can get the demo's of A & C. you have a great stamina to get 92 gig, congratulations.

Subhash,

Indeed blue ray disc quality is better, but i have seen the disc and rip quality, i am not able to see much difference in PQ and moreover it is never feasible on practical grounds for one to get into discs if one See's a lot of movies. On the other hand i have a soft corner for rips because they are in digital format which allows me to write notes etc.

V.


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[reju]

Reju,

For me there is no question to get into blue ray player, i am any day more comfortable with movies via external hard disk.

I think you should not rule it out.. It's only matter of time when we change our opinions. At the moment I have both worlds. 1:1`BD copies on HDD does take up a lot of space...BDs are becoming cheaper. Some sites sell movies for $6.99.

But most importantly you need to make most of your projector so feed in uncompressed blu-ray stuff and enjoy best possible clarity on your big screen!

 

[spirovious]

We can play 1080p BD iso when we will meet soon.

 

[yrk1969]

Indeed blue ray disc quality is better, but i have seen the disc and rip quality, i am not able to see much difference in PQ and moreover it is never feasible on practical grounds for one to get into discs if one See's a lot of movies. On the other hand i have a soft corner for rips because they are in digital format which allows me to write notes etc.

V.

Vinay, you have two issues:

1. Your distance is not optimal for 1080p, read this good article on resolutions and seating distances - 1080p Does Matter Here's When (Screen Size vs. Viewing Distance vs. Resolution) | CarltonBale.com
From the chart on this link, for your 82" screen you need to be closer than 15 feet to notice improvement.

2. If the rips your are downloading of 1080p/720p are around 5-7gb, then they would be marginally better than DVD quality.
A good quality 1080p movie of 2hrs length would be 30+gb in size. Your best bet would be to use BD rips of original size.

 

[santhosh]

I dont want to critisize Vinay's choice or the projector.

mind you, Epson 8350 is the projector of the year on ProjectorCentral.com and is ahead of PT4000.

But still, I feel PT4000 should recieve first choice and better still if somebody is willing to wait and has big bucks, the 2011 upcoming succesor to Pana PT4000 to be released( nobody knows when).

I myself am going for Epson.

One query, does Epson support anamorphic lens ? any idea of cost?

Does Pana 4000 come with inbuilt 2.35:1 support??

IMO, Vinay has made a correct decision in buying this pj. Like Sid says, when you are getting 90% of pana 4000 performance at 1200$. Also, Vinay does not need anamorphic format, so this epson was the perfect choice. Also he needed a projector quickly as his projector had some went kaput.

Panasonic 4000 is 16:9 native but can do pseudo-anamorphic format which is also pretty good if one wants to watch both formats with two screens?.

 

[santhosh]

Vinay, you have two issues:



1. Your distance is not optimal for 1080p....

2. If the rips your are downloading of 1080p/720p are around 5-7gb, then they would be marginally better than DVD quality..

+1 to your thoughts\observations. Agree with you 100%.

 

[santhosh]

Just curious Vinay, what is your idea on the "Crew of the thread" thingy? And why is your name missing? Is it because you are the ship and we steered you through rough seas?

 

[Kittu]

Just curious Vinay, what is your idea on the "Crew of the thread" thingy? And why is your name missing? Is it because you are the ship and we steered you through rough seas?

Vinay is the Captain - El-capitainnnnnn . Ship is his HT room always sails thru some rough seas(upgrades).

 

[reju]

Vinay, you have two issues:

2. If the rips your are downloading of 1080p/720p are around 5-7gb, then they would be marginally better than DVD quality.

Don't agree on this one though. They are much better than DVD quality.

 

[sidvee]

hi sidvee

i suppose your 8350 was hand carried
was there any issues at the customs

Yes subhash it was brought in check in bags. No issues at customs (mumbai).
Cheers
Sid

 

[sidvee]

Re: epson home cinema 8350 projector

Sidvee,

The picture quality difference is better by about 10%. I too have moved on from 720P to 1080P, are you seeing a better picture of more then 10% from 720 to 1080? If yes, then i have do some settings etc? Please advice.

I still have to try watching a movie with in-direct yellow lights. I generally prefer to see movies in 100% dark room with foot lights because more darker the room, better the picture quality and focus environment.

About the fan noise when i compare with my old projector, it is around 50% less which is very good, but generally the noise does not matter because when the movie is on, we can never hear the noise of fan and moreover the projector is hooked on the ceiling, so all the more noise can not travel to our ears.

I too have not noticed any problem with the function of projector. If there is no issue even after watching 50 movies, we are quite safe.

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Hi Vinay - Sorry I was traveling over the weekend so I could not get back.
For the PQ improvement you need to use/watch blu -rays in 1080p. I watched Casino Royale and WOW the PQ was amazing. One thing that bothered me was at 2.40:1 ratio there is a big reduction in screen size as the bars on the top and bottom are large and one cannot stretch or zoom (that is an irritating feature on the epson when using HDMI watching 1080p - not sure if other 1080p proj. have the same issue), but the pQ is so good that one forgets the bars. Anyway since my viewing position is approx. 15' away this is not a big concern. Secondly since my screen is a gray color screen with the improved contrast the bars are almost black so not a big distraction.
Some of the intial settings - which I gathered for AVS forum actuully are:
1. Engage auto iris (i used the slow mode)
2. Change color temperature from 6500k to 7500k.
With these 2 settings the skin tones were much better and more importantly the black levels became more black so contrast was great.
3. Reduced the fan power to low - it really brings the noise down even further and from my listening position my ac was louder.
These are my initial settings. All of this week I will tweak the image further with digital VE disc and hope I get a better picture yet.
Cheers
Sid

 

[vinay]

Vyerth,

It is very good when BnH & SYW agree with responsibility if shipment is received in damaged condtion etc, this should be taken in writing from them before placing the order.

If some of you'll are planning to use their services, then do write on this thread, so that we can mention a few suggestions before the order is placed to them.

The projector which you got via BnH, was procured from your choice of seller? The delivery took how long and how did you make the payment, how was the customs and octri paid. About post sales which you mentioned, what does that mean?

Spidey

Well i think one should not wait for so and so projector model to be launched, the said launch is not going to have any great feathers, so if one has decided to buy the projector, just buy it and start having a great entertainment ball.

So how are you planning to get this Epson, via online stores?

V.


The Crew Of This Thread

Aleskar, Arindamcc, Captrajesh, Cmsajith, Dranil, Dushie, Gauravkumra, Hemantwaghe, Jayad08, Kapvin, Karmic, Kittu1977, Ontherocks, Mod-the-pc, Musicmaya, Quad, Rana Kirti, Reju, Rosh, Rshri, Santho12, sanjay0864, Shaiju O Thomas, Sidvee, Spidey, Spirovious, Srinisundar, Subcenter2009, Subhash, Sud98, Svenkateshsmart, Ukjeyaraj, Venkatcr, Vyerth. Yrk1969.

 

[vinay]

Vardu,

I have got the invoice from SYW, it states value of the item inlcusive of the product price, shipping, taxes, customs duty and handling charges.

The destination address was local (US) A/c my name.

My address was there on the package.

I do not know if i can register under my name in the online purchase/warranty.

V.

Hi Vinay

Can you give details about the actual purchase receipt?

1. Was it made out to Tarazz / SYW or to you?
2. Was the destination address local (US) and if so - was it on the package? (if it was Tarazz - can you give the address here?)
3. Was your Indian address on the package?

4. If the purchaser was a different person can you go ahead and register under your name in the online purchase/warranty?

The Crew Of This Thread

Aleskar, Arindamcc, Captrajesh, Cmsajith, Dranil, Dushie, Gauravkumra, Hemantwaghe, Jayad08, Kapvin, Karmic, Kittu1977, Ontherocks, Mod-the-pc, Musicmaya, Quad, Rana Kirti, Reju, Rosh, Rshri, Santho12, sanjay0864, Shaiju O Thomas, Sidvee, Spidey, Spirovious, Srinisundar, Subcenter2009, Subhash, Sud98, Svenkateshsmart, Ukjeyaraj, Venkatcr, Vyerth. Yrk1969.

 

[svenkateshsmart]

Vinay Ji,

Congrats on your new projector, I know am the last one to wish:sad:, and glad that you are moving towards blu-ray:yahoo:

To experience the real blu-ray quality, try downloading rips that are of 17-20 GB, but sometimes the file size is huge because of DTS.

Any day, the real blu-ray disc would beat the rips in PQ, at least if not in SQ, just like the CD vs MP3 vs FLAC story, though the observation would be mostly subjective 95% of the time.:lol: One would not concur with this unless they see it in person, preferably using a projector.

Cheers!

 

[vinay]

Reju,

I have more interest to use only one source for video, which is a media player.

About the hard disk taking a lot of space, for me this is never a issue because around 40% of the movies i delete after watching them, either i have not liked the movie or it was okay but not worth a second watch.

I need to get most out of my projector so i am downloading 1080P, it is okay if the feed is compressed, the clarity which i am getting is very good, you are among the people who can understand this better, as you too download a lot of movies.

It is true that a 720p is any day better then a dvd, but you know Reju, i will always say one thing that if a disc quality is better by say 10% in terms of picture compared to a rip of + 5/7gb, then it is no big deal.

Spirovious,

Indeed i will like to see the picture quality difference between the downloaded 1080P and the disc.

I remember seeing the disc of some movie via 1080P projector, i had seen the same movie which i had downloaded and that too in 720P, i hardly noticed much visible difference.


YRK 1969,

It could be true that lesser the distance is better, but i feel it is any day better to sit at more distance, i am in no way comfortable that such a big screen picture and one is viewing from near.

I have seen a lot of movies via DVD and these qualities are no match to a 5/7gb file.

If one sees around 400 movies/serials a year, it can never be practical to keep buying the blue ray discs, that too for a one time usage during most times.

Santosh,

You are right that i am the ship.

I must say one thing i had this projector bulb problem for quite a number of days but never bought up at the forum which was wrong on my part, the moment i had bought up this issue, the crew members grew more and more which in turn give me a golden opportuntiy as to how i should go about it, result is now history for everyone to see , "A New Projector".

V.

The Crew Of This Thread

Aleskar, Arindamcc, Captrajesh, Cmsajith, Dranil, Dushie, Gauravkumra, Hemantwaghe, Jayad08, Kapvin, Karmic, Kittu1977, Ontherocks, Mod-the-pc, Musicmaya, Quad, Rana Kirti, Reju, Rosh, Rshri, Santho12, sanjay0864, Shaiju O Thomas, Sidvee, Spidey, Spirovious, Srinisundar, Subcenter2009, Subhash, Sud98, Svenkateshsmart, Ukjeyaraj, Venkatcr, Vyerth. Yrk1969.

 

[reju]

Reju,

I have more interest to use only one source for video, which is a media player.

About the hard disk taking a lot of space, for me this is never a issue because around 40% of the movies i delete after watching them, either i have not liked the movie or it was okay but not worth a second watch.

I need to get most out of my projector so i am downloading 1080P, it is okay if the feed is compressed, the clarity which i am getting is very good, you are among the people who can understand this better, as you too download a lot of movies.

It is true that a 720p is any day better then a dvd, but you know Reju, i will always say one thing that if a disc quality is better by say 10% in terms of picture compared to a rip of + 5/7gb, then it is no big deal.

I will try to explain my point as simply as I can...

Most of your equipment viz, AVR, speakers, screen and projector are highend stuff. And I need not mention anything about your theatre room...

You have already paid a premium to get say 10% improvement for video or audio quality. Now if you are going to compromise on the soul...the content, it contradicts your original idea of getting best experience with your setup.
So actually this 15-20% improvement using uncompressed should be most valuable advantage for you.

No problem, you can use media player/ HDD, but go for the uncompressed Blu-ray stuff....move on buddy...don't deprive yourself of what the world is enjoying...

 

[kapvin]

Don't agree on this one though. They are much better than DVD quality.

+1 to that. (Without ever having downloaded a movie )

the rips from the net would be avc (with all options maxed while transcoding) while dvd rips would be mpeg2. at similar constrained bitrates; you can expect siginifcantly better quality from AVC.


vinay - pm me if you need a high bitrate full hd source material to check your projector.. i assume your playback device can handle bD quality material. if you have a spare hDD lying around you can drop it off at my office / or we can meet on LBS; and I can populate it with some stuff for you to check your system. i've given away all my spare hdds on the forum,you'llhave to source one

this is a one time person specific offer. i don't want to get into a situation where i'm seen as condoning piracy and i read your statement about deleting movies after watching

 

[yrk1969]

To experience the real blu-ray quality, try downloading rips that are of 17-20 GB, but sometimes the file size is huge because of DTS.

Any day, the real blu-ray disc would beat the rips in PQ, at least if not in SQ, just like the CD vs MP3 vs FLAC story, though the observation would be mostly subjective 95% of the time.:lol: One would not concur with this unless they see it in person, preferably using a projector.

Cheers!

That's exactly the point. These PQ differences are not apparent on smaller screens.

Few years back, I was hard pressed to differentiate quality between 1080p video on HD vs Full HD Sony LCDs (40" each I think) from 8ft distance.

On a 100" screen I can make quality difference between a 20gb Blu-ray vs 30+ gb Blu-ray (many older Blu-rays were around 20gb in original size, also HD-DVDs).

Indeed i will like to see the picture quality difference between the downloaded 1080P and the disc.

I remember seeing the disc of some movie via 1080P projector, i had seen the same movie which i had downloaded and that too in 720P, i hardly noticed much visible difference.

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It could be true that lesser the distance is better, but i feel it is any day better to sit at more distance, i am in no way comfortable that such a big screen picture and one is viewing from near.

There are no arguments on personal comfort, however to realize the benefits of 1080p projector you should consider these if possible.