SVS PC12 Plus overkill?

[Stealth3si]

Denon 1712
Front: Pioneer SP-BS41-LR
Center: Pioneer SP-C21
Rear: Pioneer SP-BS21-LR
Subwoofer: SVS 12 Plus

10' W x10' D x 9' H enclosed room with one corner opening up to 3' W x 2.33' D x 9' H area where door is.

is this too much? for the speakers that i won't get the msot out of the subwoofer?

 

[marsilians]

The denon can drive the Svs fairly well and if you set it up
correctly is a keeper. First change to your system should be the speakers budget permitting.

 

[k11]

41s upfront are too small.

Get the Pioneer FS SP-52. Rear speakers are rarely used components. So 21s should be fine.

 

[Stealth3si]

41s upfront are too small.

Get the Pioneer FS SP-52. Rear speakers are rarely used components. So 21s should be fine.

what's a viable comparable alternative to floorstands? prefereably less than 15 lbs per speaker?

 

[k11]

what's a viable comparable alternative to floorstands? prefereably less than 15 lbs per speaker?

I do not know if there is one.

Def Tech and Mirage make some floor speakers with Aluminum instead of wood.
But still I do not think they will be under 15lbs.
25lbs will be the lightest floorstanding speakers, I think.

By the way the SVS sub could be 100lbs, I think.

 

[prosenjit]

I do not know if there is one.

Def Tech and Mirage make some floor speakers with Aluminum instead of wood.

with regard of aluminium sonodyne avant fs is also aluminium speakers.....around 60k pair i think

 

[Stealth3si]

what i'm trying to say is what comparable alternative like bookshelfl speakers as opposed to floorstand speakers are there. i'm mounting them on a speaker clamp ratied to hold 15 lbs because i have space limitations on hte flooor.

 

[ShaQ.Blogs]

for the room size, if this is the sub you are looking at It is most definitely overkill!!!

This is a damn powerful sub which can pound in much larger rooms. Suggest you get 2 moderate subs than one big sub. 2 subs should even out bass response in the room. But since your room is small, not sure what problems will you face without room treatment. You will definitely have lots of room gain in the bass region in that room.

 

[Stealth3si]

for the room size, if this is the sub you are looking at It is most definitely overkill!!!

NO this is the sub I am looking at!

This is a damn powerful sub which can pound in much larger rooms.

is that dangerous?

Suggest you get 2 moderate subs than one big sub. 2 subs should even out bass response in the room.

due to my space limitations on the floor, i can only afford one subwoofer, that must be smaller than 17" in depth. the SB12 NSD fits but I can't have two. that leaves me with one SB12 NSD and the 23hz kinda turns me off.

so that means besides the PC12 Plus the other alternative I can think of is a single SVS PC12 NSD.

FYI, I do have Denon's Audyssey MultEQ XT feature for room calibration and IIRC it has sub calibration too. would that help reduce room gain? Also, would the cost of buying an SPL meter be worth it to correct room gain or calibrate the room?

But since your room is small, not sure what problems will you face without room treatment. You will definitely have lots of room gain in the bass region in that room.

Room gain, do youi mean too loud making a boomy sound, instead of tight punchy bass the sub is suppose to give?

 

[ShaQ.Blogs]

that one is also powerful. 3 ports with a 800W amp and 12" driver.

this should suffice for ur room
PC12-NSD - SVS

it is ported with a 400W amp and 12" driver.
if you are looking for music, try to get a sealed one than ported from SVS. Either way this is a gud sub.

But if you can afford it go for it! Its just that you wont need it. If you are in the US and if you are looking for a musical sub - go for no other than Rythmik.
Check out their sealed F12 sub.
Rythmik Audio servo subwoofer 12" F12

Other good subs you should consider over the SVS ones are HSU VTF3 MK4, which is also powerful. A little less powerfull which will suffice for u, HSU VTF2

VTF-3 MK4 Subwoofer
VTF-2 MK4 Subwoofer

My suggestion, get either Rythmik F12 or HSU VTF2 or VTF3

 

[HTuser]

If you have space constrains go for PC12 NSD, (plus series will be overkill for your room size).

Calibration tools will help, but they will not be able to eliminate all problems. You will need room treatment as well.

SPL meter is very useful for identifying the affected frequencies and you can plan room treatment accordingly.

due to my space limitations on the floor, i can only afford one subwoofer, that must be smaller than 17" in depth. the SB12 NSD fits but I can't have two. that leaves me with one SB12 NSD and the 23hz kinda turns me off.

so that means besides the PC12 Plus the other alternative I can think of is a single SVS PC12 NSD.

FYI, I do have Denon's Audyssey MultEQ XT feature for room calibration and IIRC it has sub calibration too. would that help reduce room gain? Also, would the cost of buying an SPL meter be worth it to correct room gain or calibrate the room?

Room gain, do youi mean too loud making a boomy sound, instead of tight punchy bass the sub is suppose to give?

 

[Stealth3si]

what is room treatment? is this somethign an Audyssey Install does? How much doe they cost to setup the room?

I'm interested in an SPL meter but can I buy a budget SPL meter? and where?

 

[ShaQ.Blogs]

what is room treatment?

have you ever tried this? Its quite amazing, actually!

 

[Stealth3si]

so i just need to treat room for bass frequencies? what bout the speakers' frequencies? do i need to use pads/foam for thsoe too?

 

[Stealth3si]

If you have space constrains go for PC12 NSD, (plus series will be overkill for your room size).

what do you think about me stacking dual SB12-NSDs?

Calibration tools will help, but they will not be able to eliminate all problems.

i heard that the denon 1712 is audyssey installer ready. this means i need to pay a local audyssey installer to calibrate the room for me? hwo much doe they generally cost?

You will need room treatment as well.

I need to fit bass traps on affected areas?

SPL meter is very useful for identifying the affected frequencies and you can plan room treatment accordingly.

so by using the SPL meter, it will help me decide what pads to get and where to put theM?

 

[Stealth3si]

In regards to SPL Meters...

I've gathered a short list of SPL meters. which one should I get or one you woudl get in my if you were in my position?

Scosche SPL1000F 135DB Max Spl Meter
Amazon.com: Scosche SPL1000F 135DB Max Spl Meter: Electronics

Mini Digital Sound Level Meter
Amazon.com: Mini Digital Sound Level Meter: Home Improvement

USB Digital Sound Level Meter
Amazon.com: USB Digital Sound Level Meter: Home & Kitchen

Extech 407730 40-to-130-Decibel Digital Sound Level Meter
Amazon.com: Extech 407730 40-to-130-Decibel Digital Sound Level Meter: Home Improvement

Dayton Audio EMM-6 Electret Measurement Microphone
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=390-801

honestly i don't know if i really actually need one to treat the room for bass frequencies but if i do which ones are a good deal?

 

[manoj.p]

I would get Dayton Audio EMM-6, because it comes with its own calibration file. Better yet, I would get this. Cross

 

[manoj.p]

As for your original question whether the sub is overkill - No sub is overkill per se. All the subs are actually level-matched with your rest of the speakers, so it's loudness is the same as every other speaker. No question of overpowering if setup properly. With that said, the SVS sub is powerful, so its volume will be lowered for level matching. It will have plenty of reserve power, but left unused.
A good way to make use of it split as dual subs instead and spread in the room. That will help smooth the bass response as well.

If you are thinking about speakers, I would suggest Infinity Primus P163B. These are 16 lb each. Very good upgrade to Pioneers that you are thinking of.

 

[Stealth3si]

Better yet, I would get this. Cross

I would consider Dayton Audio EMM-6. But would I really need the extra features in pre-calibrated version?

 

[marsilians]

what do you think about me stacking dual SB12-NSDs?

i heard that the denon 1712 is audyssey installer ready. this means i need to pay a local audyssey installer to calibrate the room for me? hwo much doe they generally cost?

I need to fit bass traps on affected areas?

so by using the SPL meter, it will help me decide what pads to get and where to put theM?

You are asking some fundamental questions. I would strongly suggest to search the forum to get the answers before posting.

SPL meters have nothing to do with room treatments!!!