Torn between Yamaha-863 & Marantz-3053 AVRs

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sand64

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Friends,

Sometimes It becomes really difficult to make decisions.

My quest to enjoy better music bought me here in this forum. Your advises, views & ideas helped me a lot and I finally decided to add an AVR first and then add a pair of floorstanders later on. (I have a old n faithful stereo set up with FSs)

So I did a quick audition in Delhi (due to shortage of time) but before going into it, I will let u know my needs & situations. Here are these:

- Working in central govt., transferable job so no fixed room size, decor & orientation.
- Budget constraint as usual, though recent pay arrears helped me to some extent.
- Listening tastes includes western (mostly rock) & hindi (filmy, pop & ghazals)
- Would like to have the AVR as musical as possible in its class/range (I now know it is difficult)
- Should have enough punch for movies too.

And not the least - its sound signature should be enjoyable to me.

So I planned to extract some time out of my official assignment in delhi, packed 2-3 my own CDs (but no movie clip) along with official papers & visited four dealers:

Dealer I - auditioned Denon 1910 with wharfe, not very impressive. Also auditioned marantz as integrated stereo amp paired with Wharfedale 9.5 for music (liked marantz & wharfe).

Dealer II - auditioned CA 340R with polk. Sounded good but lacked punch despite auditioning being done in a dedicated demo room....may be due to lack of availability of good software there (only Ghazni sound tracks).

Dealer III - auditioned Yamaha 863 with set of Q-acoustic 1050i and Paradigm 5.1 cinema. I was looking forward to listen 863 as it was recomended by dear venket & many other members of this forum. It is good no doubt. The amp has good punch for movies & suficient body in music too. (Dealer was playing a blu-ray demo disk....was this the reason??? not sure)

Dealer IV - auditioned marantz SR3053 & pm7001 in stereo mode, paired with some 'Rave' brand of Bookshelves. Didnt had time to see movie clip and just managed to catch train back home. Liked the sound signature of marantz, and also felt that SR3053 is not far behind in SQ than integated amp pm7001 (I may be wrong as I was in a bit of hurry)

Now here the delimma starts.....as I am torn between Yamaha-863 & marantz SR3053.

I liked the punch & looks of 863 but it cost almost double the SR3053. It is not that I can't afford it, and I know that once you buy... then you live with it. But yes I will look for the value for money. Rx-663 could have been suffice but it is not available.

SR3053 on the other hand a basic 5.1 avr. No future proofing... I am not much concerned with video capabilities...but non-availability of pre-outs, absence of formats like Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD Master Audio is a dragger. Music is good..video capabilities not seen.

As both the sets were not available with same dealer, I was not able to compare them for clarity and dynamic range.....and i am not sure of my audition too as it was hurried one and i am a novice.

What do you say.......Pl. do come up with your views as it will be a great help.

thanks.
 

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And for a novice like me, it is very difficult to judge the subtle difference in quality of different speakers and that through short auditions in different conditions & with different amps..

So I do require some insight from gurus like you in selecting the speakers..
 
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Yes, There is no PM7002. My bad.

Sand, I think you should kill this thread and start a new one for speakers and amp in the appropriate section. And, then we shall take it from there...
 
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Hi guys......... interesting foray.......... i am looking to change my marantz 5.1 (forgot model) AVR (7 years old) due to need for HDMI slots......... need to decide between SR 3053 or NR 1501 or even denon 1610 as they fit my bill size............. I have paradigm phamtom V3 fronts and denon surrounds with deftech sub 1000........... i use it 99% for movies.......... from dvd and HTPC and also PS3 for bluray............ would appreciate any feedback............
 
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hi frens.... in market for a new avr...

i've been offered a 1 1/2 yr old Yamaha RX V863 for 42k.

1. What was the last official price of this avr ?

2. Is that a good price ? Should i accept it or how much should be my counter offer ?

Thanks
 
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rana_kirti

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hi spirovious,

thanks for the links and prices provided...

what do you think is a fair price i should offer to buy the 1 1/2 yr old RX V863 ? The seller is quoting 42k.

How much should i offer him ?

Thanks
 
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When I was hunting around for a new AVR about a year back, 863 was one of the serious contenders. The going price at that time was 45k. In fact, this was the last official price that I know of. After that, the model disappeared from the market (at least in North India).

I guess since the present owner bought it 1.5 years ago, he must have paid between 50-55k. Hence, offer of 42k today.

Anyhow, 42k today is not practical.
 
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rana_kirti

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thanks guys.. i'll offer him 25k and and max 30k....!

by the way....

Is 48k good price for a brand new 863 ? considering ranojoy just posted on the previous reply that that the going price a year back was 45k ?

Thanks
 
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thanks guys.. i'll offer him 25k and and max 30k....!

by the way....

Is 48k good price for a brand new 863 ? considering ranojoy just posted on the previous reply that that the going price a year back was 45k ?

Thanks

You hope he is not reading this :D
 
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