Thats your experience.
A and B have similar interest and are like minded
C and D have different interests and work with opposite minds
Which pair has more probability of similar tastes
Which brand should I buy?
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Thats your experience.
A and B have similar interest and are like minded
C and D have different interests and work with opposite minds
Which pair has more probability of similar tastes
keith_correa
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My experience has nothing to do with what I pointed out.
You still don't understand - like "minded" is different. Also please read what Sachin Chavan pointed out in post # 16
I have nothing to say then.
What Sachin wrote is valid but like minded persons who are like minded in food does not inherently mean that they will not be like minded in sports. Their probability of like mindidness becomes higher though. I think everyone misses the meaning of probability here.
This area is something that is very hard to generalize, in my opinion. One of the major factors that has not been brought up yet is $$. What I have noticed with ME and some others around is that the more money we have more drama (no offence intended, I just like this word that conveys so many different flavors) we do while selecting an item 
. Most of the times I end up complicating it too much that interest turns into frustration.
This discussion would be more meaningful if say, we throw a price range and select an item, amplifiers to start with and then ask for opinion substantiating as to why one would choose something.
. Most of the times I end up complicating it too much that interest turns into frustration.This discussion would be more meaningful if say, we throw a price range and select an item, amplifiers to start with and then ask for opinion substantiating as to why one would choose something.
that sounds good in theory but unless you hear that component in your room and your system you cannot even trust what your own ears have heard. Been a very costly learning for me over the last 17 years in this hobby.
This way you are also limited by what is available in your vicinity and in India that by itself narrows down your options.
absolutely right, but something is better than nothing, i mean buying product on pretext that somebody has same taste.what u said is also right, if possible carry ur amp or speakers with u. but even i live in remote area and thats not possible for me also
Mukul77
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I am also with the same opinion. Sometimes we like the performance of audio eqpts of certain brands but cannot afford due to the price. However, if somebody can afford, will definitely explore various brands as per his taste of music.This area is something that is very hard to generalize, in my opinion. One of the major factors that has not been brought up yet is $$. What I have noticed with ME and some others around is that the more money we have more drama (no offence intended, I just like this word that conveys so many different flavors) we do while selecting an item
This discussion would be more meaningful if say, we throw a price range and select an item, amplifiers to start with and then ask for opinion substantiating as to why one would choose something.
any system worth more than 2-4 month salary warrants a demo for those not on salary, i guess theres space for philosophy and interpretations...
Blind buy based on reviews and "like mindedness" is fun, but it can hardly cover all angles...
for those not on salary, i guess theres space for philosophy and interpretations...Blind buy based on reviews and "like mindedness" is fun, but it can hardly cover all angles...
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square_wave
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any system worth more than 2-4 month salary warrants a demo
Blind buy based on reviews and "like mindedness" is fun, but it can hardly cover all angles...
All approaches comes with its own set of blind spots unless you are able to spend couple of days with a product in your own system and room.
If you know a designer's " philosophy of sound " really well, you know what to expect from that brand. If you are able to gauge this well, I think it is a fine approach.
spirovious
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Why not make a correct sounding system which can be true to the recording?
Which may be called Neutral/Natural sounding system?
Rest is decided by the room, synergy to speakers etc.
Which may be called Neutral/Natural sounding system?
Rest is decided by the room, synergy to speakers etc.
Many designers disown their own creations in favor of their new releases...unless said model is their cash cow. Yes, if one uses pass labs, then they may buy into the upgrades. But to someone who has never owned one, and to overwhelm them by its greatness and nudging them to go for it...i feel its unfair.
With blind buys the major challenge is, one ends up playing music which suits the system and not the other way around...
Amplifiers are still fine as blind buys...but speakers and its synergies are a differeng ballgame altogether. Genelecs perhaps has a house sound which is surprisingly uniform across their range....but rest, audio reviews dont help...reviews by users who have similar taste in music as you, definitely better option to go by..
My major gripe with audio reviewers are, the music they set on them...a krall/barber disc would make any shitty system sound above average.
Youtube videos are better than reviews or philosopy...one atleast gets an idea.
My personal exp. Cadence was a brand i bought into after lot of demoes...and boy i travelled demoed focal, revel, maggies, kefs and some more...then someone suggested a trip to pune, did that too. It had exactly what i wanted as a personal user. Bought refurbished unit of arista and va1 from them within a week as it had that kind of impact on me. as all suggest on this forum...demo, theres no hurry, no obligation to buy into any pitch.
Hi all,
I was going through this thread with interest. I feel each of the posts above has one or more valuable insights.
But while trying to sum it up, I was struggling a bit. But here it is below
Feel free to suggest additions, edits to the list/process.
...from the varied viewpoints, personal journeys and experiences towards audio nirvana I gather that we need to:
Do careful research of the designers philosophy and preferences,
read reviews and learn about the reviewers and their tastes and preference,
factor in their selection of hardware and soft ware for the reviews,
Reconcile the above with our own tastes and preferences in SQ, music, affordability, space available...
All this can help shortlist.
Final selection is best done by auditions,
preferably in our own familiar listening spaces
with like minded people or at least those with similar tastes in music and SQ.
The last three steps Sounds exactly like what this forum is meant for!
I was going through this thread with interest. I feel each of the posts above has one or more valuable insights.
But while trying to sum it up, I was struggling a bit. But here it is below
Feel free to suggest additions, edits to the list/process.
...from the varied viewpoints, personal journeys and experiences towards audio nirvana I gather that we need to:
Do careful research of the designers philosophy and preferences,
read reviews and learn about the reviewers and their tastes and preference,
factor in their selection of hardware and soft ware for the reviews,
Reconcile the above with our own tastes and preferences in SQ, music, affordability, space available...
All this can help shortlist.
Final selection is best done by auditions,
preferably in our own familiar listening spaces
with like minded people or at least those with similar tastes in music and SQ.
The last three steps Sounds exactly like what this forum is meant for!
unleash_me
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This is an interesting aspect. A little bit more on this from what appears to be a burned-out reviewer.
1. The End of 13th Note HiFi Reviews
2. The F*ck*d up nature of The Audiophile Audio Industry
Not to ruffle any feathers; just a rare insight into the unseen. Take it with a generous pinch of reality.
This is a rare inside view of the industry and these reviewers sound very angry and frustrated.
Objectivity in a highly subjective, varied and opinionated field like this is unrealistic.
Disclaimers and flowery language can not prevent angry buyers whose expectations are not met, I suppose.
Not being compensated by a company for an unsolicited review...there must be a term for it.
unleash_me, thanks for sharing these perspectives. They do sound jaded, cyn and burnt out. This Definitely adds the pinch of salt and a dose of masala to the discussion.
Nice share ! and interesting perspective on the industry. Most of the key brands have now been taken over by Chinese companies so the future would even be more in this direction.
yes but harman itself is now owned by Samsung..which is of course not chinese but IAG which is chinese in origin (but i believe now the owners moved to UK) own Luxman, Wharfedale, Audiolab and even Quad among many others
Even Ajay Shirke has bought out Siltech, spendor, garrard amd some more I believe, so there is an India presence as well
Even Ajay Shirke has bought out Siltech, spendor, garrard amd some more I believe, so there is an India presence as well
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