Which one to buy Sonodyne 2504/2605 or used Wharfedale 9.6

[hrishi]

I'd like to know which one to go for provided they have listened to all 3 speakers. I'll add a sub if required.

An old Wharf 9.6 for 25K or a new 2605 for 30+K
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An old Wharf 9.6 for 25K or a new 2504 for 20+K

Wharf 9.6 is discontinued model why would you invest 25 k for old model and that too 2nd hand ? so ignore it.

now we have two different version of sonodyne..2605 is of course better than 2504 but difference will be 10k. if you can afford it go for it.

but if you want to take 2504 model then would say check Norge tower speaker that has same price of 2504. its high quality product any time can beat 2504.

 

[efernand1]

Hi

First ground rule, avoid purchasing second hand speakers as you may not know to what extent the user (owner) has driven them. Unless you know the owner personally, I guess then it is fine to take that risk to some extent.

Some technical aspects to consider about speakers is that the impedance should be the same or more than the amplifier. This means it should be rated at 6 ohms and above. Next is the sensitivity levels, minimum should be 85db...the higher it is the better it is for the amplifier to deliver clean power to the speakers which will perform at decent volume levels...Another aspect is wider the speaker cone, better the sound throw and frequencies emitted.....typical range is 20hz - 20khz and floor standing speakers perform at an average from 35/40hz to 18/20khz.

In my opinion, there are a lot of brands out there and which have difference in costs. For me after extensive use of various brands and models, the Boston Acoustics are true value for money. You may want to consider the A250 Floor Standers....these were once available for Rs 25k on HiFimart...just checked ..they are being sold for 32k now...strange...could be the Dollar vs Rupee conflict or the election results...check with other dealers if you can get it cheaper.....

ProFX has completed 10 years in India and are still offering discount in some locations, you may want to audition the Towers they sell and please take your AVR with you to check the tonal matching and performance....if the TSx series appeals to you, demand for a discount and they will render the same....atleast 10-18% for sure. The good part is that you get 3 years warranty......

All the best

 

[sound_cycle]

First ground rule, avoid purchasing second hand speakers as you may not know to what extent the user (owner) has driven them. Unless you know the owner personally, I guess then it is fine to take that risk to some extent.

Could you explain this better please.

You say that if they are "driven hard" it should (would) results in a permanent and lasting damage.

Which would then be audible ? (if not why should i be concerned)

And if it is and I know the previous owner why I should accept it ?

If I don't hear it and don't know the owner personally is it okay to still buy used speakers

I am vaguely dreaming for a speaker upgrade and looking specifically at the FS section and would like to understand what you are saying better

Regards
gr

 

[Flash]

Wharf 9.6 is discontinued model why would you invest 25 k for old model and that too 2nd hand ? so ignore it.

now we have two different version of sonodyne..2605 is of course better than 2504 but difference will be 10k. if you can afford it go for it.

but if you want to take 2504 model then would say check Norge tower speaker that has same price of 2504. its high quality product any time can beat 2504.

Hrishi

Have you heard the Wharf 9.6 or Sono 2504 or Norge xx ? For that matter do you even have a stereo setup . ?

2 days ago you mentioned in a PM you are just about to start your audio journey and Planning to buy a Norge amp and searching for speakers to setup your first stereo rig

So as a person who has practically no experience with Audio gear. you should refrain from posting strong comments

Cheers

 

[hrishi]

Hrishi

Have you heard the Wharf 9.6 or Sono 2504 or Norge xx ? For that matter do you even have a stereo setup . ?

2 days ago you mentioned in a PM you are just about to start your audio journey and Planning to buy a Norge amp and searching for speakers to setup your first stereo rig

So as a person who has practically no experience with Audio gear. you should refrain from posting strong comments

Cheers

Hey buddy... i am also zeroing out on stereo setup... going through a lot of research and forums...and i am learning many things from you guys.... what i suggested was totally based on logic.. our friend has three option and he wants one to select... so just i applied analytic and suggested...

by the way i would like to know your suggestion...

so now we have 4 options :
1. sonodyne - 2504
2.sonodyne - 2605
3.nore tower
4.wharf - 9.6
2. BA 250A

budget - 22-25K. i am selecting norge here...i talked to mr bajaj and said his norge tower has 4ohm of impedence...i need in 8ohm ..he said..he will give in 8 ohm but he will use one big mid-offer instead of two which currently have.

 

[Flash]

Hey buddy... i am also zeroing out on stereo setup... going through a lot of research and forums...and i am learning many things from you guys.... what i suggested was totally based on logic.. our friend has three option and he wants one to select... so just i applied analytic and suggested...

but if you want to take 2504 model then would say check Norge tower speaker that has same price of 2504. its high quality product any time can beat 2504.

I dont see the logic .. You have neither heard the 9.6 or the Norge or the Sonodyne.
From where did u get the impression that the Norge tower is better than the 2504 and can easily beat it .

Is this purely based on what you have read. Have you heard them side by side or auditioned either speaker ? . I guess not. Then in that case my friend your view holds no ground.

Please audition speakers and AV gear before commenting. Most Forum members as you can see from this thread itself. refrains from commenting about Audio gear unless they have personally heard them

Coming down to your question I have not heard the Norge with any of the speakers you mentioned.
So cant comment.

 

[hrishi]

I dont see the logic .. You have neither heard the 9.6 or the Norge or the Sonodyne.
From where did u get the impression that the Norge tower is better than the 2504 and can easily beat it .

Is this purely based on what you have read. Have you heard them side by side or auditioned either speaker ? . I guess not. Then in that case my friend your view holds no ground.

Please audition speakers and AV gear before commenting. Most Forum members as you can see from this thread itself. refrains from commenting about Audio gear unless they have personally heard them

Coming down to your question I have not heard the Norge with any of the speakers you mentioned.
So cant comment.

Actually I have auditioned Norge Tower.. you know they have only one model in floor standing... it was paired with Norge 2060. what i felt was..it was not shiny at all...bass was good but not very good... But infact i wanted to had audition with Norge 1000 Gold or 2000 which was not available then.
so i am going today to audition with norge 1000.

Now,, i said 2504 is not superior than Norge tower becuase if you compare specification its evrywhere inferior to norge.. like driver size.. impedence.. the materials..weight of speakers... Norge has 6.5" midwoffer which sonodyne 2504 has 5.25" tweeter is same 1" in both. so I think Norge will be better than 2504 though both are Indian company. but Norge cant be better than 2605
v3 again based on specification.
you have enough experience so i think you should be able to suggest the right choice..
By the way can you tell me where i can have demo of BA 250A audition in mumbai ? as today i am going for audition as much as i can do... i want to zero out and done with my setup.

Kvinodkumar.. i think i am hijacking your post but it will also benefit you as we are on same boat

 

[sound_cycle]

First ground rule, avoid purchasing second hand speakers as you may not know to what extent the user (owner) has driven them. Unless you know the owner personally, I guess then it is fine to take that risk to some extent.

Could you explain this better please.

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I am vaguely dreaming for a speaker upgrade and looking specifically at the FS section and would like to understand what you are saying better

Regards
gr

I take it that was from the unecessary FUD columns. Thanks

Regards
gr

 

[elangoas]

Hey buddy... i am also zeroing out on stereo setup... going through a lot of research and forums...and i am learning many things from you guys.... what i suggested was totally based on logic.. our friend has three option and he wants one to select... so just i applied analytic and suggested...

by the way i would like to know your suggestion...

so now we have 4 options :
1. sonodyne - 2504
2.sonodyne - 2605
3.nore tower
4.wharf - 9.6
2. BA 250A

budget - 22-25K. i am selecting norge here...i talked to mr bajaj and said his norge tower has 4ohm of impedence...i need in 8ohm ..he said..he will give in 8 ohm but he will use one big mid-offer instead of two which currently have.

I have heard both Sonus 2504 & Sonus 2605 with the same source material and with same amplification....I felt Sonus 2605 is a better choice for the overall presentation....

I have also had Diamond 9.2 for more than 2 yrs & heard the diamond 9.5 many times....

Let me give you some pointers for FS.....

If you are going to keep it close to the wall, then a front ported FS like Sonus 2605 is better.....

I have also used Mission M35i FS which is a rear ported & found that the bass gets boomy when you place close to the wall....Since Diamond 9.6 is also a rear ported FS, you will need to take in account the space behind the speakers... Ideally 1 -2 feet distance is required...

For a front ported speaker, it doesn't demand that much space as a rear ported one...

 

[kvinodkumar]

Thank you Everyone!!!
Hrishi - It's a knowledge channel and I'm 32 but still there's scope to learn!! You don't have to think that you hijacked it.

I love Hifi guys. I keep reading lots of posts but can't comment as I think I need more time in the Hifivision.

Elangoas - Thank you for that update on front/back ported speakers. I almost forgot. I can't use a back ported speakers as my 10+ months son will fiddle with it for sure. (I don't know how I forgot about it)

For quite some time now I've been thinking of Sonodyne. Need to check them out. Thank you all.

 

[efernand1]

Could you explain this better please.

You say that if they are "driven hard" it should (would) results in a permanent and lasting damage.

Which would then be audible ? (if not why should i be concerned)

And if it is and I know the previous owner why I should accept it ?

If I don't hear it and don't know the owner personally is it okay to still buy used speakers

I am vaguely dreaming for a speaker upgrade and looking specifically at the FS section and would like to understand what you are saying better

Regards
gr

Hi Sound Cycle,

It is an individual call to decide to buy used speakers or not. If you are buying from a known person, atleast you have some experience of the usage. Audition is a must for any speakers you buy especially second hand ones. I hope I have clarified.

 

[sound_cycle]

First ground rule, avoid purchasing second hand speakers as you may not know to what extent the user (owner) has driven them. Unless you know the owner personally, I guess then it is fine to take that risk to some extent.

Hi Sound Cycle,

It is an individual call to decide to buy used speakers or not. If you are buying from a known person, atleast you have some experience of the usage. Audition is a must for any speakers you buy especially second hand ones. I hope I have clarified.

Nothing is clarified or explained. you are now obfuscating and stating the well known and obvious about individual choice and the need for auditions and retracting from what you posted up thread

You clearly said AVOID BUYING SECOND HAND SPEAKERS.
(emphasis added, also where i have quoted above)

There are several speakers in the FS section. From what you posted I should not consider them. Could you explain what that fear/ uncertainty/ doubt (or genuine value add warning maybe) your statement was about ?

With best regards
gr