Any Experience With DNM Amplifiers ?

[Spinekar]

hi guys,

has anybody used dnm amps and if so can u guys shed some light on the same,
i am trying to get a av receiver and front speakers for my lcd.
the dnm amp i am looking at is either AV2020 or AV455E

thnx in adavnce

 

[venkatcr]

DNM is made for commercial establishments and where quality requirements are not very high.

I hope you are aware that both the models you have chosen are simply amplifiers that have no decoding capabilities. You have to feed them with analogue signals.

Cheers

 

[Spinekar]

DNM is made for commercial establishments and where quality requirements are not very high.

I hope you are aware that both the models you have chosen are simply amplifiers that have no decoding capabilities. You have to feed them with analogue signals.

Cheers

Had no idea, thanks for the info

 

[gopib]

As per their web site they also have an integrated amp and a cd player(bottom of the page under high end products). The CD player is interesting as its specs are pretty impressive with a BB DAC thrown in. Wish I were in Mumbai to audition it......

 

[Spinekar]

i am inclining towards a topping tp20 and jbl control ones for my lcd tv, very basic requirement here

 

[gopib]

Agree. Topping fits the bill (2 ch only). Choose speakers after listening and
also based on aesthetics and space available.

 

[trittya]

DNM is made for commercial establishments and where quality requirements are not very high.

I hope you are aware that both the models you have chosen are simply amplifiers that have no decoding capabilities. You have to feed them with analogue signals.

Cheers

Beg to differ, Sir
DNM aka pace makes some great VFM home audio stuff too, suited for those who dont have their noses up in the air, even while auditioning.
A couple of great floorstanders n bookshelf speakers, too. Highly underrated due to our ignorance.
Speak to Dilip N Bajaj and thou shalt know.
Further, not having decoding, rather, upscaling capabilities largely pertains to the video aspect of an AVR, unless, of course, we are talking of DACs. One does not need either in case one has a DVd player that has an inbuilt DAC and upscales video too. Also, some high-end AVRs also have the analogue feed options for all 7.1 channels separately as also for three video leads for RGB video, which is much superior to that single lead yellow video input/output. For digital audio, we have either the co-axial/optical hook-up as an alternative, of which co-ax is undoubtedly superior, esp over longer cable lengths. Now, we also have HDMI ver 1.4 wherein we have all the aforesaid audio and video signals carried thru a single cable but I daresay that it would be fallacious to presume that it provides superior audio/video quality. What it does provide is the convenience of one single cable over 10/11 cables from source to AVR/HT amp. Just my two Phooti kaudis. . .
Regards

 

[venkatcr]

I usually do not get into an argument on matters that are simple and straightforward. Unfortunately, in this case, you seem to have raised some points just for arguments sake without understanding what is being discussed.

Beg to differ, Sir

The op was looking at AV2020 or AV455E and though they were AV Receivers. They certainly are not. That is what I wanted to clarify.

Speak to Dilip N Bajaj and thou shalt know

If you have read through some of the other threads I have participated in, you would have noticed I have actually recommended DNM to a few people. DNM certainly has value, but in the areas they specialise in.

Further, not having decoding, rather, upscaling capabilities largely pertains to the video aspect of an AVR, unless, of course, we are talking of DACs.

Decoding refers to both video and audio codecs. DACs are a post-decoding process. They have nothing to do with audio codecs.

One does not need either in case one has a DVd player that has an inbuilt DAC and upscales video too.

For one to get the audio decoding capabilities of say, a Denon 1911 or a Yamaha 667, one has to get a DVD Player that is around 45K. If these kind of skewed prices make sense to a guy who is looking at a 10K amplifier, sure.

Also, some high-end AVRs also have the analogue feed options for all 7.1 channels separately as also for three video leads for RGB video, which is much superior to that single lead yellow video input/output.

The 'analogue feed options', as you call it, is called pre-in. This is generally used when you have a source that has superior decoding capabilities, and you want to bypass the processing capabilities of the receiver.

The whole world knows that component (RGB/three leads as you call it) is superior to composite (single yellow lead?). I don't understand how the discussion/comparison on component and composite AV connections are relevant at all here.

For digital audio, we have either the co-axial/optical hook-up as an alternative, of which co-ax is undoubtedly superior, esp over longer cable lengths.

Coaxial is superior to what? To optical? You are completely wrong.

Now, we also have HDMI ver 1.4 wherein we have all the aforesaid audio and video signals carried thru a single cable but I daresay that it would be fallacious to presume that it provides superior audio/video quality. What it does provide is the convenience of one single cable over 10/11 cables from source to AVR/HT amp. Just my two Phooti kaudis. . .

We will come to HDMI 1.4 later.

The reason HDMI was created was to carry audio and video together. More important it has a much higher bandwidth that allows it to carry uncompressed audio. Though there have been arguments that a component cable can also carry HD video, the simple fact is that only HDMI carries 1080P. That way, I don't see how HDMI is not better that any other connection in the market today. You component is limited to 720P.

HDMI 1.4 is a different baby. It has two additional carriers. One is what is ARC or Audio Return Channel. When you connect an HDMI 1.4 cable between a 1.4 capable TV and a receiver/amplifier, the ARC will leave the video with the TV and transfer the audio to the receiver/amplifier. It also has capabilities to carry networking data through an inbuilt Cat 5 capability.

Cheers

 

[trittya]

Whoa there
@Venkatcr
I dont know what made u feel that I was getting into an argument. Anyway, I refrain from commenting on your comments as I m not here to prove you wrong or myself right. Suit yourself, as always but I daresay your post was slightly misleading, so i added up. Beats me why you felt uptight. Nothing personal, just wanted to say that dnm isnt a bad budget buy if one is not lookin for video upscaling. Take it easy, bro, I dont really even want to know why. . . .
But something tells me we were trying to say the same thing and also what i wrote was not for your consumption but that of the OP. You are a very knowledgeable gent and I dare not teach/contradict you. Anyway, hope you have a nice day. BTW, I called it single yellow lead in an attempt to keep things simple.
Something tells me you are at it again. Chill, mate, chill. Also, thanks for telling me what hdmi 1.3 and 1.4 is, not that I needed it but I m thankful for your copy-paste effort. Warm regards

 

[askii2]

DNM aka pace makes some great VFM home audio stuff too, suited for those who dont have their noses up in the air, even while auditioning.
A couple of great floorstanders n bookshelf speakers, too. Highly underrated due to our ignorance.

I own a Pace amplifier and a DNM tape. Having used both or more than 8 years. Here is my feedback -
1. I Pace amplifer has been a great buy. Absolutely noise free and a clean frequency response right till the end of the audio spectrum. It outputs a speaker thump when it's turned on. This can be gotten around by keeping the volume level to zero or speaker A, B switches off when turning it on. I eventually stopped using it last year when I bought a better receiver. The price I paid in 2002 was Rs. 7000. No other amp at this price beats it IMHO.
Several people auditioned it alongwith my Yamaha floorstanders at Pune HFV meet last year. While it's competition turned out to be better, all the other amps where several orders costlier.

2. The tape had a faster speed when I purchased it from Pankaj Audio, Lakshmi road pune. The speed was fixed promptly when I took it to them. Had a reasonable quality. It's noise reduction works very well on tapes that have it. I had only one flaw - it's output keeps emitting noise when it's not playing. Could be a cause of automatic noise control of some such stuff. It's ok for the price I paid in 2003 - Rs. 3000/-; could have been better at this price.

 

[sandeepmohan]

I use a DNM graphic equalizer and it is an excellent product. Considering what I paid for it, I think it is a great product. DNM products are quality products and you should audition their stereo amplifiers and buy only if they sound good to you.

As another member has mentioned, their cd player amplifier combo is very well speced and totally worth the 14k price tag. I don't know if it still retails for this price.