AVR for best movie experience

My denon 1912 has MultEQ XT audyssey but it doesnt show any option for movie and music....does ur audyssey version MultEQ XT32 ?

and I have turned off dynamic volume as I find it not good to my taste

the problem I see when I leave Audyssey setup as it is is the center channel recessed and lots of highs....Dynamic EQ set to ON does helps but still I feel the dialogue from center specially is recessed

I have increased 2-3db the center level to conpensate that

Yes Audyssey in my AVR is Multi EQ XT32....

i get your point...Could be something to do with crossover settings too... What did you/Audyssey set the crossover point for your speakers ? Your speakers are capable of handling 100Hz crossover point?
 
Yes Audyssey in my AVR is Multi EQ XT32....

i get your point...Could be something to do with crossover settings too... What did you/Audyssey set the crossover point for your speakers ? Your speakers are capable of handling 100Hz crossover point?

audyssey set front and center to 40 but I changed to 80 an surround to 100 bcoz my surround is a bit small

I just need a full bodied center dialogue which will be great for my HD TV sound as well and Movies

Music I don't listen a lot on my AVR but music video I do and again I have same complaint that vocals has to be full bodied and full in center channel

surround is fine for me
 
audyssey set front and center to 40 but I changed to 80 an surround to 100 bcoz my surround is a bit small

I just need a full bodied center dialogue which will be great for my HD TV sound as well and Movies

Music I don't listen a lot on my AVR but music video I do and again I have same complaint that vocals has to be full bodied and full in center channel

surround is fine for me

Ok.. Per the specs of your speaker, Deftech Procinema 800 system, your speaker is capable of handling upto 60Hz...

An other reason could be because you have metal tweeters on your speakers, it might sound edgy/scratchy...
 
Ok.. Per the specs of your speaker, Deftech Procinema 800 system, your speaker is capable of handling upto 60Hz...

An other reason could be because you have metal tweeters on your speakers, it might sound edgy/scratchy...

I have recently upgraded to PSB Mini Bookshelf and PSB Mini Center with LR1 surround and Sub 125...all PSB

they are quite an upgrade to my deftech

and yes I did run the audyssey again after I upgraded the speakers
 
I have recently upgraded to PSB Mini Bookshelf and PSB Mini Center with LR1 surround and Sub 125...all PSB

they are quite an upgrade to my deftech

and yes I did run the audyssey again after I upgraded the speakers

Ok.. I looked @ your signature & assumed you were using deftech Procinema....

I suggest you set it back to what Audyssey detected to 40 Hz and tweak the Audyssey Dynamic volume presets " Midnight, Evening, Day" and update feedback...
 
Ok.. I looked @ your signature & assumed you were using deftech Procinema....

I suggest you set it back to what Audyssey detected to 40 Hz and tweak the Audyssey Dynamic volume presets " Midnight, Evening, Day" and update feedback...

well it didnt make any difference if I understand how crossover works, If I set 80 Hz means any freq 80 and less will goto Sub instead of Speaker and if I lower it means I am giving less exposure of lower freq to sub which it is made for

and dynamic vol just increase or decrease vol automatically I never liked it but want to adjust vol manually

can you pls tell me what Dynamic EQ is for ? I find it boost bass and overall surround when turned on but when turned off it makes the sound more natural specially for music
 
well it didnt make any difference if I understand how crossover works, If I set 80 Hz means any freq 80 and less will goto Sub instead of Speaker and if I lower it means I am giving less exposure of lower freq to sub which it is made for

and dynamic vol just increase or decrease vol automatically I never liked it but want to adjust vol manually

can you pls tell me what Dynamic EQ is for ? I find it boost bass and overall surround when turned on but when turned off it makes the sound more natural specially for music

I don't have technical knowledge to elaborate on Dynamic EQ function of Audyssey..

Here is a link Dynamic EQ | Audyssey

Dynamic Volume | Audyssey

To put it simply in a way that i have experienced is : -

For instance letz assume that your AVR doesn't have any Audyssey Technologies - Whatever impact that you get when running your AVR @ 85 - 90% of the volume, you will get the same impact @ 50% of your AVR's volume when Audyssey Dynamic EQ & Volume are engaged ....This is what i have seen before & after calibration....
 
I don't have technical knowledge to elaborate on Dynamic EQ function of Audyssey..

Here is a link Dynamic EQ | Audyssey

Dynamic Volume | Audyssey

To put it simply in a way that i have experienced is : -

For instance letz assume that your AVR doesn't have any Audyssey Technologies - Whatever impact that you get when running your AVR @ 85 - 90% of the volume, you will get the same impact @ 50% of your AVR's volume when Audyssey Dynamic EQ & Volume are engaged ....This is what i have seen before & after calibration....
My only complaint is the recessed vocals or center channel dialogue

How to boost... When I engage Audyssey I can't manually change frequency eq
 
Audyssey opens surrounds much more.So need manual tweaking.I found reducing their levels makes improvement.Keeping "Dynamic volume" Light makes sound very good,but some extra added effects/echo.It depends what you like.

There are few other AVRs also to be considered like Anthem ,Harmon Kardon. Also think of pre-power if in budget.
 
Audyssey opens surrounds much more.So need manual tweaking.I found reducing their levels makes improvement.Keeping "Dynamic volume" Light makes sound very good,but some extra added effects/echo.It depends what you like.

There are few other AVRs also to be considered like Anthem ,Harmon Kardon. Also think of pre-power if in budget.
My Denon is not letting me manually change Audyssey freq setup when dynamic EQ is engaged and light dynamic vol means day? I have day night and evening in dynamic volume
 
Ok, Light is a setting in Marantz/Onkyo. Denon has same with different names.
Day must be Light in others.Try selecting one.
 
Ok, Light is a setting in Marantz/Onkyo. Denon has same with different names.
Day must be Light in others.Try selecting one.
I saw the Audyssey setup has lowered the mids freq on my center and front which is why I am hearing vocals recessed... Now I can change it when I select manual Audyssey but in manual mode I cannot use dynamic EQ which I am liking now
 
Some notes from my experience -
1. Dynamic range (Yamaha term) is "maximum". This lets the avr play all the sounds at intended volumes instead of toning down sudden volume increases. I think this is also called "night mode" or something. The purpose is when watching relatively silent scenes, we tend to increase the volume and when there is a sudden action scene or something the volume goes over the top (possibly waking up neighbors/family - hence the name night mode). But this dynamic range is needed for true movie watching experience and is a problem only if you do not have dedicated room for your theater. So for best experience, keep dynamic range at maximum.
2. I have talked to a lot of people about volume of center channel. Most people increase it by a couple of dbs in comparison to their LR. Ditto with me. My center is at +2 whereas LR are at 0. I like it that way. Maybe if we had identical LCR, we wouldn't have to do that but it is pretty common in dissimilar LCR setups.
3. In the beginning i did not like the sound from my speakers. I engaged the YPAO (Yamaha's room correction) and it got a LOT better. After about 6 months of usage, i then disabled the auto eq. I actually disabled equalization completely. The movie sound is even more spectacular. Then i realized maybe the speaker break-in has happened. Many don't believe in this but in my case, it turned out to be completely true. My speakers sounded really disappointing in my room initially (after a great audition at the dealer) - but now they are spectacular. Trust me, this is not "getting used to the sound" or anything. It was very real for me. So in your case, it could be that your speakers need breaking in.
4. Now i do not do any equalization at all. i move the subwoofer around so as to get the best bass response. Other speakers work great without equalization.
 
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I was struggling to understand the DRC effect in my Yamaha AVR for some time. Was thinking to go back to manual. Thanks for your post.
 
Let me give you some pointers, but these are purely personal.

1. Onkyo. I like the Onkyo sound, maybe because I have been using an Onkyo receiver for a long time. It is powerful and the clarity of dialogues is very clear. Their separation is really good and with the power they pump, you can hear every sound and whisper very clearly. Onkyo may be a bit muted in low frequencies, but that suits my ears. Onkyo, as far as I know, does not filter any sound, and sends it raw to you. You can get a bit of ear fatigue after a while. (It looks as if I am an Onkyo fan :), no?)

2. Denon. Very similar to Onkyo, as they compete very closely with each other. Denon's sound is more refined than Onkyo as I suspect they fool around a bit to make the sound 'pleasant' or muted. You can watch movies for 8 hours and not get any ear fatigue.

3. Marantz. This is a different beast. With a lead in two channel audio, Marantz brings the same refinement in sound to their AVRs. No ear fatigue, and clear separation and clarity at all frequencies. They could be more realistic in terms of their power output.

4. Pioneer. Again in the same league as Onkyo and Denon. When they started they really had to fight a losing battle against these two. But they kept on refining their offerings, and today they fight head to head against these two. Their mid range is clean and leans towards being neutral. It is the high end that Pioneer excels in, delivering them with clarity that few can do so well.

5. Sony brings the same sound signature as all their other equipment. They add a bit of extra power at all budgets, making you believe it sounds 'better'. Using DCAC instead of Audyssey, they may lose a lot in terms of room correction, and may thus not be in the same league as the others.

6. Yamaha. Yamaha tires to separate themselves from the rest by offering two differentiators - their own calibration, and oodles of their own sound processing. Yamaha has two extremes - people who hate them and people who love them. If you like their sound processing, you will not like other AVRs. In addition, Yamaha UI is not all that friendly. In terms of sound, I would slot them somewhere between pleasant and harsh.

In terms of features, I would reckon Audyssey is needed as is some Networking. And of course, capability to handle DTS-HD and Dolby True-HD. In terms of video processing, the choices are many, but I would prefer a simple pass through. With Blu-ray through a good player, there is no sense in upscaling. A good original DVD player through a Pioneer player looks superb without any processing. And, irrespective of what you do to a pirated DVD, it can never be improved.

Use these as pointers in your audition. Look for the way the AVRs handle high and low frequencies, dialogues, and lip syncing. If these are handled well, you have a winner.

Cheers

hey buddy thanks for ur detailed explaination and if I understood correctly, Marantz is a better one compared to Denon and Onkyo

I called the hifimart cust care and he told me the marantz sr6009 and sr5006 is avaibale in special discounted price.

As I am seeing sr5009 it seems similar to denon model but more power and options....can you pls help me if this will be a good buy if its available on good discounted price

anyone else have this receiver pls would you let me know ur experience
 
I called the hifimart cust care and he told me the marantz sr6009 and sr5006 is avaibale in special discounted price.

As I am seeing sr5009 it seems similar to denon model but more power and options....can you pls help me if this will be a good buy if its available on good discounted price

I don't think there is much difference between your Denon / Maratnz AVR in terms of features... Both have almost similar features...

When you are spending more than 70K for AVR, consider the ones with the best Digital room correction...

Your Denon AVR & Marantz AVR 5009 both have Audyssey Multi EQ XT... So chances are that your movie watching experience might be the same...

If you are getting a good discounted price, then consider Marantz SR 7008 which offers Audyssey Multi EQ XT32 room correction....

Please take audition of Onkyo 929 / Denon X 4000 if aval in your city, that will give you an idea of how Audyssey XT32 fares over Audyssey XT..
 
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