Buchardt S300 - new VFM bookshelf king?

[jls001]

If it really does 33 Hz as claimed, do consider the fact that it will very likely overload your room. In my room, my 55 Hz speakers after careful placement can nearly over load the room with bass energy when playing bass-heavy tracks. A genuine -3 dB speaker at 32 Hz is simply unlistenable in the same room as it overloads the room. To make the 32 Hz speaker work will need heavy damping and bass traps.

Most concrete RCC rooms have that 6 dB-ish bump at about 50 Hz so even a speaker rated for -3dB at mid 40s will produce unexpectedly huge bass.

So lower bass reach is not always a good thing.

My two cents.

 

[apk]

If it really does 33 Hz as claimed, do consider the fact that it will very likely overload your room. In my room, my 55 Hz speakers after careful placement can nearly over load the room with bass energy when playing bass-heavy tracks. A genuine -3 dB speaker at 32 Hz is simply unlistenable in the same room as it overloads the room. To make the 32 Hz speaker work will need heavy damping and bass traps.

Most concrete RCC rooms have that 6 dB-ish bump at about 50 Hz so even a speaker rated for -3dB at mid 40s will produce unexpectedly huge bass.

So lower bass reach is not always a good thing.

My two cents.

Interesting point. As someone who once tried to make a pair of speakers with 12" woofers work in a small sized Indian room (12ft x 10ft), and failed miserably, I know how difficult it is to tame the bass - even with generous use of EQ (which I have on my pre-amp)

BTW, how big is your room size - just for reference's sake?

Best,
apk

 

[jls001]

10' wide, 19' length, slightly below 9' floor to ceiling.

PS: The same 32 Hz speaker played superbly in another room which was probably twice as wide and one and half times longer.

 

[prem]

In Mumbai homes it's better to get a good 60- 70 Hz bookshelf with a sub. One can always dial in the sub to suit the room.

 

[rikhav]

There is no point of having a speaker which can do 30-35 Hz and then one will basically cut the frequency by use of eq so it does not sound boomy in a room which is not apt for that speaker
So yes, if the room permits then only one should go for such speaker

 

[keith_correa]

In Mumbai homes it's better to get a good 60- 70 Hz bookshelf with a sub. One can always dial in the sub to suit the room.

What will you "dial in"? SPL?

 

[vineetrad]

I use a big 31'x25' room where I've never had the problem of boomy bass but very interesting perspective. Thanks for sharing!

If it really does 33 Hz as claimed, do consider the fact that it will very likely overload your room. In my room, my 55 Hz speakers after careful placement can nearly over load the room with bass energy when playing bass-heavy tracks. A genuine -3 dB speaker at 32 Hz is simply unlistenable in the same room as it overloads the room. To make the 32 Hz speaker work will need heavy damping and bass traps.

Most concrete RCC rooms have that 6 dB-ish bump at about 50 Hz so even a speaker rated for -3dB at mid 40s will produce unexpectedly huge bass.

So lower bass reach is not always a good thing.

My two cents.

 

[sunder]

Their another model S200 also impressive. That model will be suitable for small rooms and can be placed close to wall. They paid much effort to tune the 2 passive radiator system which come on the back side to enhance the LF in a small enclosure. The price is also less and affordable. But, in the pictures, there couldn't be seen the grills for the radiators. Without the grill, will be difficult to handle and maintain.

 

[apk]

10' wide, 19' length, slightly below 9' floor to ceiling.

PS: The same 32 Hz speaker played superbly in another room which was probably twice as wide and one and half times longer.

Yes, it's amazing how much the room dimensions influence the sound. I was perfectly happy using my large speakers in the living room. But now that I have moved it to a spare bedroom with smaller dimensions - I hardly put on my stereo system any more and actually prefer using headphones.

I use a big 31'x25' room where I've never had the problem of boomy bass but very interesting perspective. Thanks for sharing!

You live in a Manson man! You have a lot of flexibility with that kind of space

 

[prem]

Yes Keith the vol, depending on how much reinforcement you are getting from the room.

 

[vineetrad]

Their another model S200 also impressive. That model will be suitable for small rooms and can be placed close to wall. They paid much effort to tune the 2 passive radiator system which come on the back side to enhance the LF in a small enclosure. The price is also less and affordable. But, in the pictures, there couldn't be seen the grills for the radiators. Without the grill, will be difficult to handle and maintain.

Z Reviews has the review up for the S200 added yesterday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30t0fTNr06I

Sound demo (binaural recording use good headphones):
https://youtu.be/pXD9nEeqNI8

 

[abhi33]

Check for NHT Classic Three, Audiophile Bookshelf speakers with outstanding imaging and sound-staging capabilities.
The Classic Three is a 3-way design (unusual as most bookshelf speakers are 2-way designs) using a custom designed 6.5, very long throw anodized aluminum cone woofer.
NHT Classic Three Loudspeaker | Hi-Fi+

 

[vineetrad]

Check for NHT Classic Three, Audiophile Bookshelf speakers with outstanding imaging and sound-staging capabilities.
The Classic Three is a 3-way design (unusual as most bookshelf speakers are 2-way designs) using a custom designed 6.5, very long throw anodized aluminum cone woofer.
NHT Classic Three Loudspeaker | Hi-Fi+

These seem to be an updated version of the NHT 3 way design?
https://www.amazon.com/NHT-3-Way-Bookshelf-Speaker-Single/dp/B019PZ96RS/

 

[JayaRaa]

Check for NHT Classic Three, Audiophile Bookshelf speakers with outstanding imaging and sound-staging capabilities.
The Classic Three is a 3-way design (unusual as most bookshelf speakers are 2-way designs) using a custom designed 6.5, very long throw anodized aluminum cone woofer.
NHT Classic Three Loudspeaker | Hi-Fi+

Forward & bright sound. If you like the above attributes, then these will appeal to you. Needs good amp to bring best out of them as well.

 

[abhi33]

NHTs are not bright sounding but are very neutral/transparent sounding speakers, infact with comparison with some similar speakers they feel warm sounding . However, personal listening should be better for personal choice.