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Wharfedale Diamond 11.2 Speakers

filmguy

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Well..my points as a neutral...

@ISO did mention in his first post that the important conclusion is to properly calibrate. Poor calibration can make things worse.

@ISO also mentioned about the distortion because of DSP.

Comment by @ISO about working for denon....this comment could have been avoided (my point of view) but i guess, it happened in the heat of the moment.

From my experience, since there is a lot of stuff going on during audyssey, there is equal chance of getting it wrong and messing something up during calibration. The reason why denon (or even marantz) may sound distorted or shrill, is not because of the amp, but because of the audyssey filters applied during calibration. This specially affects 2 channel listening, more so because audyssey calibrates all speakers for flat response including bass and with less bass, highs can sound shrill or distorted if audyssey applied wrong filters. Having said all this, a properly calibrated audyssey system will sound just fantastic without any distortion at any listening levels.

Be it Yamaha ypao or denon audyssey, key is to experiment with calibration continuously till we end up with a satisfied result. I am pretty sure everyone will agree that, no one gets the calibration done perfectly first time and it requires repeated efforts, time and definitely some patience.

To make the most of audyssey, tweaking via multieq editor app for supported avr's can make some positive difference.

Peace to all and cheers.
Siju
there's a lot that audyssey can do to change the sound. first when i ran it got a shrill harsh sound but then read in their faqs to toe-in the speakers & that gave me a very good sound which i was happy with.

but unfortunately i did not take a backup of the settings and few months ago i had to do a factory reset of the avr due to its setting menu becoming inaccessible. after that i have run the audyssey some 15+ times in different configurations and setups but am not able to replicate that balanced sound, as a result its a sharp/harsh sound now. dont know why/how except maybe my MLP has moved forward a few feet so that may be affecting the audyssey. strongly recommend that when one gets a good sound you're happy with take a backup.
 

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there's a lot that audyssey can do to change the sound. first when i ran it got a shrill harsh sound but then read in their faqs to toe-in the speakers & that gave me a very good sound which i was happy with.

but unfortunately i did not take a backup of the settings and few months ago i had to do a factory reset of the avr due to its setting menu becoming inaccessible. after that i have run the audyssey some 15+ times in different configurations and setups but am not able to replicate that balanced sound, as a result its a sharp/harsh sound now. dont know why/how except maybe my MLP has moved forward a few feet so that may be affecting the audyssey. strongly recommend that when one gets a good sound you're happy with take a backup.
One can also use the good ole sound pressure metre / good ole ear and retune the AVR.
You would be surprised by what one cam do with it.
Do that and you should be fine.
 

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One can also use the good ole sound pressure metre / good ole ear and retune the AVR.
You would be surprised by what one cam do with it.
Do that and you should be fine.
if you do manual eq in denon i think audyssey gets disabled unfortunately. plus you dont get access to the multiple filters that audyssey does
 

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there's a lot that audyssey can do to change the sound. first when i ran it got a shrill harsh sound but then read in their faqs to toe-in the speakers & that gave me a very good sound which i was happy with.

but unfortunately i did not take a backup of the settings and few months ago i had to do a factory reset of the avr due to its setting menu becoming inaccessible. after that i have run the audyssey some 15+ times in different configurations and setups but am not able to replicate that balanced sound, as a result its a sharp/harsh sound now. dont know why/how except maybe my MLP has moved forward a few feet so that may be affecting the audyssey. strongly recommend that when one gets a good sound you're happy with take a backup.
Ohh...that's sad to hear.

When i do audyssey, i take 6 readings and all locations are within 1 to 1.5 ft from mlp.

If you don't mind paying, you can try the audyssey editor app for calibration.
 

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Hello Folks,
Unvailing the first look of my new Denon AVRX2600H pairing with 2 Cambridge Audio Minx22 bookshelf Speakers.
So far the entire setup sounds quite promising. Got a free 6 yrs extended warranty on the AVR from the UK retailer, though not planning to stay that long so probably of no use.

As of now, this is my current setup-
1) Denon AVRX 2600H
2) 1 pair of Cambridge Audio Minx22(FL& FR)
3) 1 pair of Dali Alteco C1 Atmos (FDL, FDR) for Atmos setup.
Still need to decide upon on the remaining speakers & the subwoofer to comple the 5.1.2 setup. I must admit that i am quite impressed with the sound clarity on the pair of Cambridge Audio Minx22, considering to its smaller size, so thinking of getting the subwoofer aswell from Cambridge Audio (probably MinX X201 @200pound), but always open for your suggestions.

Looking forward your suggestions on the subwoofer.
 

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Help me with the optimal settings. As you can see in the output image it is set for 4:2:0 and not 4:2:2 or 4:4:4. I have also attached the set up. Is it correct or i need to change
 

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Love4sound

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Hello Folks,
Unvailing the first look of my new Denon AVRX2600H pairing with 2 Cambridge Audio Minx22 bookshelf Speakers.
So far the entire setup sounds quite promising. Got a free 6 yrs extended warranty on the AVR from the UK retailer, though not planning to stay that long so probably of no use.

As of now, this is my current setup-
1) Denon AVRX 2600H
2) 1 pair of Cambridge Audio Minx22(FL& FR)
3) 1 pair of Dali Alteco C1 Atmos (FDL, FDR) for Atmos setup.
Still need to decide upon on the remaining speakers & the subwoofer to comple the 5.1.2 setup. I must admit that i am quite impressed with the sound clarity on the pair of Cambridge Audio Minx22, considering to its smaller size, so thinking of getting the subwoofer aswell from Cambridge Audio (probably MinX X201 @200pound), but always open for your suggestions.

Looking forward your suggestions on the subwoofer.
For sub-woofer you don't have to go for the same speaker brand. Based on your budget Fm's should be able to guide you.
 

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Hi i have 1610, trying to upgrade to 2400(budget) price bring quoted at 47k , need Atmos speaker any recommendations.any suggestions pls.
 

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Hi i have 1610, trying to upgrade to 2400(budget) price bring quoted at 47k , need Atmos speaker any recommendations.any suggestions pls.
Can go for same wharfedale WCM80 in ceiling speakers.
where have you planned to put atmos speakers?
 

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Thanks @bpranay , in celing ( 9ft) just above my seating position I have a living room 20x 12 sitting approx 10ft from screen.Any idea on the cost of WCM80,also what is your experience on 2600 and also pricing , I have not yet hit button to buy for 2400 yet.
 

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Thanks @bpranay , in celing ( 9ft) just above my seating position I have a living room 20x 12 sitting approx 10ft from screen.Any idea on the cost of WCM80,also what is your experience on 2600 and also pricing , I have not yet hit button to buy for 2400 yet.
You can buy Bic America in ceiling speakers. I bought them from Avenue sound mumbai for 10k. These have 6 inch bass driver and perform very good for Atmos. In my opinion you should not spend more than 15k for Atmos speakers unless you have plenty of disposable income, since it won't be active most of the times and when active, any decent speakers would perform good while playing the effects that are fed to Atmos channels
 

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bpranay

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Thanks @bpranay , in celing ( 9ft) just above my seating position I have a living room 20x 12 sitting approx 10ft from screen.Any idea on the cost of WCM80,also what is your experience on 2600 and also pricing , I have not yet hit button to buy for 2400 yet.
2600 is the latest one. I got it for 56K locally. Intially switching from Yamaha to Denon was difficult for me especially for music, but now I am quite happy. The surround speakers works super perfect with Denon. Must give 10/10 to Denon for movies experience. For music, I would still rate yamaha on higher side. But Denon is way too ahead of Yamaha for movies.

I am not sure about the cost of WCM, may be they are around 22K for a pair. Even klipsch in ceiling are available for 14K for a pair
 

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For music, I would still rate yamaha on higher side. But Denon is way too ahead of Yamaha for movies.
Yes, Yamaha sounds refined and open in music. Demon has better impact on movies.With audyssey on, Denon can fill room easily with effects.Yamaha can sometimes create hole in between front/center and surrounds at low volume.
 
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