i have short list these subs?

[manu4panjab]

manu go for CHT 12 it will be better then polk audio. Also, velodyne is a subwoofer company where as Polk is not, this is where most of the difference occurs. so take my advice and go for velodyne. I am sure you will love it.

regards,

mmmmmmmm okkkkk please don't mind yaar totally confuse

but but noooow i have made my mind and after reading through several of other forums thread i have figured one main thing which is you also said

that polk,klipsch,jamo,kef,martin logan are basically speakers company aaaaand whereas velo,svs,hsu etc ect are special in subs right (aaaah i'm such a fool i guess then coz i understand very late )

so you know i have only 50000 for subs can i take two velodyne impact-12 subwoofers :sad:

i have just read its 5star review it said basically more of movie sub than music and i 'm also looking for movie and ps3 game subs

 

[manu4panjab]

hey brothers

i have just receive an email from av dealer in chandigarh

he wrote that he can give me one polk dsw pro 600 against my two polk psw 125s or add more 4000 and get impact 12 by velo

what you say :indifferent14:

 

[ashishkesarwani]

Manu if you liked Polk DSW Pro600 then go for it (2 in Nos., if you want but try with one first) since you are more into movies than music then polk would be sufficient for you whereas all the subs suggested above are more Musically inclined.
You are right here on your part to buy a SUb from a company which has a network in India rather than importing due to the after sales support, God forbid if something goes wrong with these things then its really difficult to get it repaired.

 

[manu4panjab]

Manu if you liked Polk DSW Pro600 then go for it (2 in Nos., if you want but try with one first) since you are more into movies than music then polk would be sufficient for you whereas all the subs suggested above are more Musically inclined.
You are right here on your part to buy a SUb from a company which has a network in India rather than importing due to the after sales support, God forbid if something goes wrong with these things then its really difficult to get it repaired.

now i'm opt for two velodyne impact 12 + marantz 6003 receiver(this time i have made my mind 200%)

i'll post spictures when i get them hyeah:

 

[qoolss]

Manu if you liked Polk DSW Pro600 then go for it (2 in Nos., if you want but try with one first) since you are more into movies than music then polk would be sufficient for you whereas all the subs suggested above are more Musically inclined.
You are right here on your part to buy a SUb from a company which has a network in India rather than importing due to the after sales support, God forbid if something goes wrong with these things then its really difficult to get it repaired.

ashish,

please be subjective and say from experience. The so called musically sub are rare. I think REL is the only company which makes it possible by connecting your sub through spekon cable through your amplifier front channels. overall all the subs are musical but some are more and some are less. Most of the subs from speaker companies are not transient or quick enough. You have to calibrate it with linear curve, polarity and phase. polk audio are not even famous in US about quality of their sub but also no one consider them as audiphile manufacturer for speakers. My adive is always go for company which specialise in certain field unlike some chinese company try to make BMW i think they should leave it to bavaria motor company only.

so Manu go for sub manufacturer and I can promise you will never look back.

regards,

swatantra

 

[marsilians]

Most of the subs from speaker companies are not transient or quick enough. You have to calibrate it with linear curve, polarity and phase.

ANY sub needs calibration. Just because one came from a company that sells more subs than other components does not make it exclusive to this requirement.

This is the reason the Audyssey EQ equaliser from SVS sold out in 2 months that they are now backordered even if they cost USD 800 each.

Some of the good to decent subs are from so called speaker companies - Martin Logan, Paradigm, Axiom Audio, AV123, Outlaw, Revel,...

polk audio are not even famous in US about quality of their sub but also no one consider them as audiphile manufacturer for speakers.

There are number of polk audio enthusiasts and their subwoofers is one of the top selling ones for HT.

My adive is always go for company which specialise in certain field unlike some chinese company try to make BMW i think they should leave it to bavaria motor company only.

Its Bavarian Motor Works

 

[qoolss]

ANY sub needs calibration. Just because one came from a company that sells more subs than other components does not make it exclusive to this requirement.

This is the reason the Audyssey EQ equaliser from SVS sold out in 2 months that they are now backordered even if they cost USD 800 each.

Some of the good to decent subs are from so called speaker companies - Martin Logan, Paradigm, Axiom Audio, AV123, Outlaw, Revel,...


There are number of polk audio enthusiasts and their subwoofers is one of the top selling ones for HT.



Its Bavarian Motor Works

answer is that most of the sub companies have better subs then speaker companies and the list you mentioned, except paradigm for servo 15 and now sub 25 or Reverl for performa 30 are not good enough when you compare them with likes of Velodyne, SVS, JL, REL or other ID companies who are specialised in subs.

AS for the POLk they are only famous is india due to price senstivity and they are easily available, but as I said earlier are not even close to be called popular speaker or sub company world-wide.

last but not least thanks for correcting BMW, but it was a phrase not meant for full description, but to give an idea.

 

[marsilians]

answer is that most of the sub companies have better subs then speaker companies and the list you mentioned, except paradigm for servo 15 and now sub 25 or Reverl for performa 30 are not good enough when you compare them with likes of Velodyne, SVS, JL, REL or other ID companies who are specialised in subs.

It appears you have not heard many of subs even in the short list I have put up. The Axiom EP500 or the Rocket UFW 12 and above models are some of the best that can be purchased. Compares with the likes of SVS and HSU and JL. And yes, I have owned subs from specialised companies as well as speaker companies.

Re: polk, between them and Definitive technologies (both owned by Directed Electronics), they are the market leader in HT systems in the US.

 

[qoolss]

i think no point arguing with you when all you want to dissert that you know better then rest, and yes I have owned subs probably more then you ever had, but i guess discussion is not healthy when all you do is come up with names without any figures to back it up. Nevertheless, Definitive and Polk are one of worst speaker companies you can see. if you have doubts then ask any audiophile and i am sure he will clear your doubts.

regrds,

swatantra

It appears you have not heard many of subs even in the short list I have put up. The Axiom EP500 or the Rocket UFW 12 and above models are some of the best that can be purchased. Compares with the likes of SVS and HSU and JL. And yes, I have owned subs from specialised companies as well as speaker companies.

Re: polk, between them and Definitive technologies (both owned by Directed Electronics), they are the market leader in HT systems in the US.

 

[marsilians]

i think no point arguing with you when all you want to dissert that you know better then rest,

That was not my intention at all. Like everyone else this forum is a learning environment for me as much as the next guy. I just wanted to provide a fair comment against your original ones which so far I have not seen any figures as you have noted that I don't provide.

craigsub on avsforum is one who has heard and has compiled a list. Not sure if it has been updated lately but if you search for it, you will notice there are indeed speaker manufacturers who also produce good quality subs. Thats the point I want to make as I noted in the first post.

I don't own polk for a reason but it still does not take away from the fact that its a much popular brand than the ones I own.

 

[doors666]

Calm down guys....

there are some speaker companies making kick ass subs, there is no doubt about that. AV123 MFW-15, Axiom Audio, Paradigm, epos, and of course B&W, the largest independent speaker maker. Check out the 7 and 8 series subs, they rock, of course, they are not value for money, but then which B&W product is.. even there lowly 6 series subs are winning the whathifi 5 stars. AV123 is making really good subs that have beaten some of the HSU and SVSs also, though they have amp issues.

Why would a good speaker maker not be able to make good subs.. After all a sub is a speaker, with an Amp and big strong cabinet (which is there in speakers also). The only difference between the 2 is the amp, which is electronics anyway, and both the sub makers as well as the speaker makers dont make.:lol: Most of these guys outsource the amps.

The so called specialist Internet direct companies exist and flourish because they are able to give quality at a cheap price. SVS has a lot of models in the 500-600$ range, but B&W does not have a single 12" subwoofer in this price range, max you can get is probably 610. In India, the 610 costs about 50k, and I can get a lot of good subs from US shipped with customs in that price range, including the SVS and the HSUs. Same with paradigm, epos etc. The epos M sub is a 10", 300w, selling for about 50k. I can get a 12" 300w for that price from SVS in india.

 

[audiodelic]

I sent an email to HSU about this and they did not respond.
I havent seen any information regarding HSU coming to india (or having a distributor) on the web or even on the HSU forums, whats your source for this 'confidential' information, if I may ask so.

Only Venkat has leads on this front. I tried getting their car audio driver via 20north for $165 product they are charging in the ballpark of Rs.13000.

 

[qoolss]

well beg to differ on that its only electronics difference. The driver capabilities and construction is one of the most important and core thing in delivering gut wrenching bass. then comes the amplifier whether its DSP controlled or servo controlled or even class d which most companies use to keep it cool while driving some really deep bass. I am not saying that speaker companies don't make good subs, but majority of time its sub manufacturer who excel in delivering the quality as there whole imphasis is on sub and that's there business also. also, the whole R&D of sub manufacturer is on it then speaker companies. Perhaps paradigm, Revel, B&W and krell are the only companis which make good competitor sub but not in terms of value for money.

The best example i would imagine would be IB subs or DIY subs which goes louder and deaper then perhaps any other sub manufactured by sub or speaker companies.also, the subs used in both the formats are manufactured by speacilist companie like TC sound, VOlt or peerless.

regards,

swatantra