Movies now on DishTV HD

If someone is still paying Rs. 125 for Movies Now on DishTV, do let us know of there is any improvement in audio quality.

I stopped watching Movies Now since most of them are repeats from the free preview period and I hate paying Rs. 125 per month for a single channel.
 
^ Me too (btw its Rs.100). Senior Manager of Dish TV still has to get back to me on those issues. I have asked for heavy compensation with refund if they do not resolve these issues.

Talking of ghosting, I never saw that in Movies Now. However, I did RANDOMLY see HEAVY CONTRAST ENHANCEMENT clipping original high contrast content making picture look like a HD Camera Print :) Probably some of us are talking of that issue on Movies Now in Dish HD.
 
yes, there is all sort of processing issues(wrong aspect ratio, oversharpenig etc) in this channel, but none more annoying than this motion trail/ghosting. what a waste.

waiting for starmovies hd to see a real hd movie channel
 
@Borg: I have DISHTV HD STB with me.. Yesterday i got a new LNB so that i can view new HD Channels.. Movies now is one of them.. I did like the quality of channels but i am pretty much disappointed with the sound. They all are upscaled one so i guess sound wud be same like other normal channels. I do get gud sound in NAT GEO coz that is true HD channel..

Cheers..!!!
 
^ I did not see any movie with wrong aspect ratio movie now. Do you remember the names of the movies with wrong aspect ratio?

Sharpening might be visible on movies which were not taken from proper HD source (upscaled). However they still look FAR BETTER than those FAKE HD channels from Dish TV.
 
@Borg: I have DISHTV HD STB with me.. Yesterday i got a new LNB so that i can view new HD Channels.. Movies now is one of them.. I did like the quality of channels but i am pretty much disappointed with the sound. They all are upscaled one so i guess sound wud be same like other normal channels. I do get gud sound in NAT GEO coz that is true HD channel..

Cheers..!!!

i have no issue with sound on bigtv,although the quality varies with movies, i am getting very good surround effect with pl2 or neo6
 
^ I did not see any movie with wrong aspect ratio movie now. Do you remember the names of the movies with wrong aspect ratio?

Sharpening might be visible on movies which were not taken from proper HD source (upscaled). However they still look FAR BETTER than those FAKE HD channels from Dish TV.

i mean they show most/if not all of the movies pan and scanned in 16:9 (movies with aspect ratio 2.35:1)
 
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i mean they show most/if not all of the movies pan and scanned in 16:9 (movies with aspect ratio 2.35:1)
Dude, Pan and Scan is different than incorrect aspect ratio like presenting 4:3 as 16:9. Pan and Scan on the other hand will clip the content sideways to MAINTAIN the ASPECT RATIO Full Screen. Its like zoom function on our TV.

While I agree that they should maintain the original picture form factor so we do not get the side content clipped, its not really an incorrect aspect ratio as indicated above (incorrect aspect ratio DISTORTS the image by stretching it horizontally or vertically, Pan and Scan just zooms the image).
 
well i consider anything that is not original (2.35:1) as incorrect,
bigtv like dishtv show all 4:3 channel in 16:9 , this i can fix in my set, but pan and scan nothing can be done on my side to correct it
 
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well i consider anything that is not original (2.35:1) as incorrect,
bigtv like dishtv show all 4:3 channel in 16:9 , this i can fix in my set, but pan and scan nothing can be done on my side to correct it
For pan-scan I do a "zoom" on my samsung TV. Zoom preserves aspect ratio (Zoom can actually change that as well, but I always keep it at identity).
 
Rather than asking a compensation from DishTV, it's easier to switch to Tata Sky. I'll start a thread on that soon. Need to study details of a switch.
 
For pan-scan I do a "zoom" on my samsung TV. Zoom preserves aspect ratio (Zoom can actually change that as well, but I always keep it at identity).

yes, if any body want to see it in full screen people can do it locally in their sets, BUT here in movies now the problem is that they are transmitting it pan and scanned so we are missing the original content (which cant be recovered locally)
 
yes, if any body want to see it in full screen people can do it locally in their sets, BUT here in movies now the problem is that they are transmitting it pan and scanned so we are missing the original content (which cant be recovered locally)

I realized that and changed my posting above. You were fast to get there before me :-).
 
Dude, Pan and Scan is different than incorrect aspect ratio like presenting 4:3 as 16:9. Pan and Scan on the other hand will clip the content sideways to MAINTAIN the ASPECT RATIO Full Screen. Its like zoom function on our TV.

While I agree that they should maintain the original picture form factor so we do not get the side content clipped, its not really an incorrect aspect ratio as indicated above (incorrect aspect ratio DISTORTS the image by stretching it horizontally or vertically, Pan and Scan just zooms the image).
Sorry to correct you on this, but the fact is, that any aspect ratio used to show a movie and which is different from the aspect ratio that the movie was originally shot in, is an "incorrect aspect ratio". Thus showing a movie, shot with a 2.35:1 aspect ratio, in a 16:9 or 4:3 aspect ratio is incorrect and this is irrespective of whether it has been 'panned & scanned' or simply 'cropped' from the sides to do so. In fact, stretching a 4:3 aspect ratio picture to fit a 16:9 screen, is actually more acceptable than either 'panning & scanning' or 'simple cropping', because with 'stretching' one atleast has the option to correct the aspect ratio and still not lose any of the picture. Which sadly is not the case with 'panning & scanning' and 'simple cropping'.

PS: I do hope that 'Star Movies HD' and 'HBO HD' when ever they do start, will show the movies in their original aspect ratios instead of this stupid policy of 'cropping' 2.35:1 aspect ratio movies, to fit the 16:9 aspect ratio of HDTVs. But sadly, as much as I hope to be wrong on this one, I seriously doubt that either of these channels will do the right thing and will simply try to cater to the average joe, who is only concerned with filling up his precious screen, rather than caring about the content shot by the director.
 
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Sorry to correct you on this, but the fact is, that any aspect ratio used to show a movie and which is different from the aspect ratio that the movie was originally shot in, is an "incorrect aspect ratio". Thus showing a movie, shot with a 2.35:1 aspect ratio, in a 16:9 or 4:3 aspect ratio is incorrect and this is irrespective of whether it has been 'panned & scanned' or simply 'cropped' from the sides to do so. In fact, stretching a 4:3 aspect ratio picture to fit a 16:9 screen, is actually more acceptable than either 'panning & scanning' or 'simple cropping', because with 'stretching' one atleast has the option to correct the aspect ratio and still not lose any of the picture. Which sadly is not the case with 'panning & scanning' and 'simple cropping'.

PS: I do hope that 'Star Movies HD' and 'HBO HD' when ever they do start, will show the movies in their original aspect ratios instead of this stupid policy of 'cropping' 2.35:1 aspect ratio movies, to fit the 16:9 aspect ratio of HDTVs. But sadly, as much as I hope to be wrong on this one, I seriously doubt that either of these channels will do the right thing and will simply try to cater to the average joe, who is only concerned with filling up his precious screen, rather than caring about the content shot by the director.

Sanjay, I obviously support you and borg in getting uncropped image as you saw from my previous post. However you and borg are confusing aspect ratio with cropping which are TWO DIFFERENT TERMS.

Whether we get Movies cropped or uncropped, they will always be presented in 16:9 or 4:3 aspect ratios by current DTH providers with ONLY difference of black bars at top and bottom. We just can not get original 2.35:1 or 2.39:1 or 2.40:1 (any one could be termed as UNCROPPED Widescreen Movie aspect ratio).

Talking of conversion of aspect ratio, again its the presentation we are arguing about and not the conversion! Conversion happen when we DISTORT the image by presenting 4:3 to 16:9 or visa versa. Yes, we can change it through our TVs (provided we do have that option - Most of LG TVs lack that option for HD content and older CRT TVs can not display 16:9 content properly).

Gist - cropped or uncropped, we will ALWAYS get the broadcast in EITHER 16:9 or 4:3 aspect ratio.

Hope you do get what I am trying to say here.
 
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Rather than asking a compensation from DishTV, it's easier to switch to Tata Sky. I'll start a thread on that soon. Need to study details of a switch.
I already took TS+HD and its another story (read another mayhem - installed after about 15 days of booking, ended subscription within 15 days of activation, bad overall SQ and PQ on both SD and HD channels).

However, would switching discount Dish TV from compensating subscribers by not resolving issues on time?
 
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I already took TS+HD and its another story (read another mayhem - installed after about 15 days of booking, ended subscription within 15 days of activation, bad overall SQ and PQ on both SD and HD channels).

I plan to evaluate TS by going to whatever they call "TataSky experience zone". Will post my feedback after that.

However, would switching discount Dish TV from compensating subscribers by not resolving issues on time?
Definitely not. I am certain that the reason for this fake HD attempt is not "let's fool the customers since they are ignorant enough not to know the difference between upscaled HD and real HD". I don't think DishTV management is that intellectually challenged. 25 real HD channels and 10 upscaled channels to claim 30 HD channels would have been an intelligent marketing attempt (although unethical). 3 real HD channels and a claim of 30 HD channels is definitely a cover-up of a different problem. Most probably someone high up the hierarchy made a blunder by betting too much on the HD story. They assumed that by March there will be at least 20 real HD channels. Content providers haven't bought in the HD story to that extent and haven't started new HD channels. So DishTV got themselves into an expensive satellite contract for 70 HD channel capability. With no real HD content to show, they would have been running into huge losses every day! This is an attempt to recover a part of that. Unfortunately they don't seem to care about long-term damage it's doing to their hard earned brand. The very fact that I, who has been their platinum (or whatever their highest plan was in each year) subscriber for 7 years, is thinking about shifting to TataSky says a lot about it.
This isn't the first time DishTV has invested too much on speculation - remember ICL?

Disclaimer - I am not connected to DishTV management or company in any way, Above story is just a guess from my DishTV HD experience and media publications.
 
I plan to evaluate TS by going to whatever they call "TataSky experience zone". Will post my feedback after that.
When I went to them in Bangalore, they had no TS+HD or for that matter TS HD setup in Jayanagar, Bangalore. I was only able to see the STB.

However, they promise to immediately refund after installation (before you sign on "work order" - I wasn't told this by the installation engineer who just suggested to contact him if having issues and took signature).

Definitely not. I am certain that the reason for this fake HD attempt is not "let's fool the customers since they are ignorant enough not to know the difference between upscaled HD and real HD". I don't think DishTV management is that intellectually challenged. 25 real HD channels and 10 upscaled channels to claim 30 HD channels would have been an intelligent marketing attempt (although unethical). 3 real HD channels and a claim of 30 HD channels is definitely a cover-up of a different problem. Most probably someone high up the hierarchy made a blunder by betting too much on the HD story. They assumed that by March there will be at least 20 real HD channels. Content providers haven't bought in the HD story to that extent and haven't started new HD channels. So DishTV got themselves into an expensive satellite contract for 70 HD channel capability. With no real HD content to show, they would have been running into huge losses every day! This is an attempt to recover a part of that. Unfortunately they don't seem to care about long-term damage it's doing to their hard earned brand. The very fact that I, who has been their platinum (or whatever their highest plan was in each year) subscriber for 7 years, is thinking about shifting to TataSky says a lot about it.
This isn't the first time DishTV has invested too much on speculation - remember ICL?

Disclaimer - I am not connected to DishTV management or company in any way, Above story is just a guess from my DishTV HD experience and media publications.
Actually my complaints were initially for STB hanging and rebooting randomly for which they sat on it for several MONTHS! Finally when the STB was replaced, optical output wasn't working, another ONE month for getting 3rd STB. Then we had AUDIO issues on several of their HD and Upscaled HD channels when they were boosting subwoofer sound to such an extent that it used to distort whenever subwoofer sound was playing (mixed to 2.0 from DD5.1). Some channels like Zee Studio looked like HD even in normal STB an year ago. Now even upscaled Zee Studio has heavy pixellation which does not exist in TS SD version of the same channel. Also, PIX HD, HBO HD, Times Now HD, ET Now HD look worse than their SD version on TS! Times Now HD and ET Now HD have ghosting and interlacing artifacts which they have not resolved till date.

Issue with Dish TV and to an extent TS is that they do their OWN ENGINEERING to Audio and/or Video and eventually DISTORTS (read KILLS) the original content by using their "SKILLS" instead of passing the original content unadulterated. On top of that, they take AGES to resolve these issue which should have not taken more than a DAY to fix - just pass the original content (do we ask too much to resolve the silliest of issues?). We should certainly ask for compensation for such moronic, stupid activity of their which is a SHEER HARASSMENT in itself when they SIT on these issues AFTER MANUFACTURING THEM!
 
bigtv guys says it is the issue(motion trail) with broadcaster(movies now) and they have accepted it

how come you guys not see it? i asked bigtv guys to check in other platforms
 
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