new subwoofer help

[hardcore_gamer99]

I did not know getting subwoofer to work at its best is pain on the S dont know how mnay weeks will it take

 

[Saiganesh]

I did not know getting subwoofer to work at its best is pain on the S dont know how mnay weeks will it take

Well since may be you are new it feels so. But then once we get it to work, the feeling of achievment (a feat) and thats more satisfying for me nowadays caz the real music that I want to hear is far away of my reach...
Jokes apart since you got a single woofer may be audysy would do it right...but then checking again opens up the full potential...
Its like buying a ferrari and feeling lazy to drive it more than 60kmph

 

[Saiganesh]

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Hy full range i have dali opticon 2 mk2 . I am confused between lfe+mains or lfe for sterro music playback

Denon has tweaked a lot of stuff in the settings i guess. Try out all possibilities and let us know the differences you hear!!
For me without lfe + mains there is one big hole in 2 channel music.

 

[Passive_audio_enthusiast]

Seems like there is a „null“ at your listening spot. Option 1 was to have move the subwoofer to another spot like @ajuvignesh mentioned. If that’s not possible, then second option is to add some acoustics in the room that, you can reduce the waves cancelling at your listening spot. Try keeping few cushions and pillows to the corners of the room to see if it works. Once you find the spots where the problem is solved, replace them with proper acoustic panels

 

[ajuvignesh]

I guess there is something else that went wrong. If he did the crawl right, there is no reason not to get the right bass in the sitting position.
@hardcore_gamer99 how did you do the crawl?

 

[hardcore_gamer99]

Denon has tweaked a lot of stuff in the settings i guess. Try out all possibilities and let us know the differences you hear!!
For me without lfe + mains there is one big hole in 2 channel music.

which hole you are talking about?

 

[hardcore_gamer99]

I guess there is something else that went wrong. If he did the crawl right, there is no reason not to get the right bass in the sitting position.
@hardcore_gamer99 how did you do the crawl?

to the left most side of room bass was too heavy and to the right most side of room and tv unit bass is deep now but mid level bass is very less hwo do i proceed now

 

[hardcore_gamer99]

Seems like there is a „null“ at your listening spot. Option 1 was to have move the subwoofer to another spot like @ajuvignesh mentioned. If that’s not possible, then second option is to add some acoustics in the room that, you can reduce the waves cancelling at your listening spot. Try keeping few cushions and pillows to the corners of the room to see if it works. Once you find the spots where the problem is solved, replace them with proper acoustic panels

any cheaper way to do room acoustics? i have normal bedroom concrete walls

 

[ajuvignesh]

to the left most side of room bass was too heavy and to the right most side of room and tv unit bass is deep now but mid level bass is very less hwo do i proceed now

Do the crawl again and try a different spot. Once finalised do the audessy again.

 

[hardcore_gamer99]

here is my video of svs sound isolation pads. will install tomorrow

 

[Saiganesh]

which hole you are talking about?

The hole = lack of bass effect of a particular range of frequencies. Its a Figure of speech

 

[hardcore_gamer99]

The hole = lack of bass effect of a particular range of frequencies. Its a Figure of speech

then what to do? It also feels that bass is late in stereo music

 

[Saiganesh]

then what to do? It also feels that bass is late in stereo music

menu-speakers-manual setup-crossover-front- change to full range
And
Menu-speakers-manual setup-advanced-Low frequency effect-subwoofer output- change to LFE+Main

If bass is late then surely there is a phase issue.
Already gave a extensive write up. Write up may sound long but the process is simple if understood.

 

[Passive_audio_enthusiast]

Do the crawl again and try a different spot. Once finalised do the audessy again.

He mentioned he cannot move the subwoofer. So even if he finds a better spot, he cannot move it to that spot.

 

[Passive_audio_enthusiast]

any cheaper way to do room acoustics? i have normal bedroom concrete walls

Before buying expensive panels, just try with stuff you have at home like pillows or cushions. I have basotect g+ but honestly it’s overpriced for what it does. Anyway before going with something like that, try with something you have at home to see if it’s improving. My relatively large floorstanders had this „hole“ which sounded really bad. Without the panels bass was virtually „phased out“ and boomy

 

[hardcore_gamer99]

He mentioned he cannot move the subwoofer. So even if he finds a better spot, he cannot move it to that spot.

I am getting new pc table which is small. For now i have big table to right side of tv unit so space will be freed . Soon

 

[Saiganesh]

I am getting new pc table which is small. For now i have big table to right side of tv unit so space will be freed . Soon

Thick curtains help a lot in accoustics. And the carpets (kashmiri) would complete the deal.
But this cannot help in delayed bass.
Have you done audysy yet?

 

[hardcore_gamer99]

Thick curtains help a lot in accoustics. And the carpets (kashmiri) would complete the deal.
But this cannot help in delayed bass.
Have you done audysy yet?

actually i run my system only on saturday an sunday. I will do crawl again first tomorrow as mid bass is missing where i put it before but deep bass was good. Also when this big pc table is gone then i guess i will have plenty of space to test sub in many places. I am thinking of wall mount now can you tell how much from bottom it can be so that video quality is not lost and also i dont get eye or neck strain the main thing is my dali opticon 2 are on stands and just dont want to cut the tv screen. ok these dali opticon2 are 42 inches from bottom and the thing is tv on wall has to be above this level from bottom. i think that will be too high?

 

[Saiganesh]

actually i run my system only on saturday an sunday. I will do crawl again first tomorrow as mid bass is missing where i put it before but deep bass was good. Also when this big pc table is gone then i guess i will have plenty of space to test sub in many places. I am thinking of wall mount now can you tell how much from bottom it can be so that video quality is not lost and also i dont get eye or neck strain the main thing is my dali opticon 2 are on stands and just dont want to cut the tv screen. ok these dali opticon2 are 42 inches from bottom and the thing is tv on wall has to be above this level from bottom. i think that will be too high?

Now this reminds me of how was stuck earlier with the denon. Mid bass was missing because of phase alignment. But once the phase was dealed with, the deep bass vanished caz it was an outcome of misaligned phase and was not an intended music from the source!
If you like the deep bass then....dont want to say but...live with it...
For me mid bass feels right now, but missing those deep bass...may be the creators give more importance to it.

 

[hardcore_gamer99]

Now this reminds me of how was stuck earlier with the denon. Mid bass was missing because of phase alignment. But once the phase was dealed with, the deep bass vanished caz it was an outcome of misaligned phase and was not an intended music from the source!
If you like the deep bass then....dont want to say but...live with it...
For me mid bass feels right now, but missing those deep bass...may be the creators give more importance to it.

what phase? for 2 channel should i select manual then use lfe+mains then crossover to 80 or 60?