sanjay0864
Well-Known Member
Dish HD will not launch until next month. So much for the FIFA World Cup in HD.
now Dishtv goes HD
- Thread starter spirovious
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Don't understand why everything needs to be luanched just in time for CW games
Do CW games matter really??? with all the big names missing (only limited countries participate )... should we really bother and wait for common wealth games to change our lives or what????
I think Football WC is bigger much much bigger than CW. and operators have missed the bus by not launching HD before June 11th. This would have been the showcase event to rollout HD content pushing it towards mass acceptance. With enough marketing, people still would have bought expensive STB just to see the biggest sporting event in HD.
who cares about CW????not me atleast ? do you?
Do CW games matter really??? with all the big names missing (only limited countries participate )... should we really bother and wait for common wealth games to change our lives or what????
I think Football WC is bigger much much bigger than CW. and operators have missed the bus by not launching HD before June 11th. This would have been the showcase event to rollout HD content pushing it towards mass acceptance. With enough marketing, people still would have bought expensive STB just to see the biggest sporting event in HD.
who cares about CW????not me atleast ? do you?
rahuljonline
Active Member
Seriously dude, u r so right... Atleast I hope to watch the cricket world cup now... I really dont care much abt the CWG, even though its being held in India...
.They will say something and will deliver something else.Need to upgrade from regular cable to STB - TS/Airtel/Dish TV/Reliance BIG TV/SUN HD..etc....as I am planing to get a Sammy plasma by this week.
Which one is the best as on date ???? in terms of Price / PQ / GUI / Channels / VFM.???
Read the posts ..but a bit confused...need help.
Thanks
Which one is the best as on date ???? in terms of Price / PQ / GUI / Channels / VFM.???
Read the posts ..but a bit confused...need help.
Thanks
mandeep
Active Member
Hello dear all.
Yesterday i got the Dishtv TruHD installed, for 5990/- only+ zero installation charges+ 15 meter Cable free+ HDMI cable also free within the box.:yahoo::licklips:
Its up and working fine guys.
But they only give football (no other programs yet) matches on ESPN HD.
They have Zee Tv+Zee Cinema also in HD(Upscaled).
To my belief and with confidence i can say that ESPN HD is in Tru Hd (Not Upscaled). As we all have seen a lot of movies on bluray and upscaled DVD movies, so according to me the football matches are truly in HD. B'coz The picture quality we are getting is sort of = NEVER SEEN ON TV. So guys its in HD or not, it doesn't matter, whatever i am getting to watch is simply great in picture quality.The sound is in 2.0 channel only both from HDMI as well as optical out.
So don't wait and upgrade to HD and enjoy FIFA WORLD CUP
Yesterday i got the Dishtv TruHD installed, for 5990/- only+ zero installation charges+ 15 meter Cable free+ HDMI cable also free within the box.:yahoo::licklips:
Its up and working fine guys.
But they only give football (no other programs yet) matches on ESPN HD.
They have Zee Tv+Zee Cinema also in HD(Upscaled).
To my belief and with confidence i can say that ESPN HD is in Tru Hd (Not Upscaled). As we all have seen a lot of movies on bluray and upscaled DVD movies, so according to me the football matches are truly in HD. B'coz The picture quality we are getting is sort of = NEVER SEEN ON TV. So guys its in HD or not, it doesn't matter, whatever i am getting to watch is simply great in picture quality.The sound is in 2.0 channel only both from HDMI as well as optical out.
So don't wait and upgrade to HD and enjoy FIFA WORLD CUP
spirovious
Well-Known Member
Hi mandeep,any rear view of STB?
vktyagi
Active Member
For price, PQ and channels, it is advisable to visit a dealer dealing in all the options. Now a days the dealers generally offer all the options at single window. For comparing price and number of channels, respective websites is a good options.
As far as GUI, stability (no hanging, no blackouts) of software and customer support, I can vouch Tata sky. In fact I am more than satisfied with their customer support.
rahuljonline
Active Member
I called up dish tv, they are asking for 3ks +Rs. 200 for installation. rs. 400 off for existing customers.
I'd prefer TATA Sky any day, as its only Rs. 2600, without any exchange. The GUI is the of all the dth around...
I'd prefer TATA Sky any day, as its only Rs. 2600, without any exchange. The GUI is the of all the dth around...
spirovious
Well-Known Member
Dishtv offers 1080i signal for true HD-
DISH truHD
DISH truHD
nisheethkumar
New Member
DISHTV has just launched their HD STB @ 2990 with two months subscription free - any exchange could reduce another 400 bucks - Zee TV (HD), Zee Cinema (HD), Nat Geo (HD) & Discovery HD are on its platform. Old movies are also being prepared in the HD format for their exclusive channels. All HD channels are different from the standard definition channels.
Cheers,
Nisheeth Kumar
:yahoo:
Cheers,
Nisheeth Kumar
:yahoo:
spirovious
Well-Known Member
Congrats,
How is SD PQ from HDMI out?
Does it has spdf(working)?
How is SD PQ from HDMI out?
Does it has spdf(working)?
sanjay0864
Well-Known Member
I believe none of the HD channels on Dish Tru HD have Dolby Digital 5.1 sound, which SunDirect HD and TataSky HD both have.
no1lives4ever
Active Member
I got my Dish HD service setup 2 days back.
I already have a Tata Sky SD STB and I will probably revert back to Tata Sky for HD once there is a TataSky+ available with HD. I bought this connection mainly to see the world cup in HD. Currently both the Dish HD & regular Tata Sky STBs are connected to the TV, so I can switch between them quite easily.
Compared to my old Tata Sky STB, I find the remote of the STB to be not as easy to use. The channel numbers on tata sky are all 3 digits, while on Dish TV they are 2, 3 or 4 digits in length, so entering a channel directly is not as easy. The Dish TV STB shows the current channel using a 4 digit 7 segment LED display. There is no power light on the STB and even when the STB is switched off, the 7 segment LED display shows something. This is quite irritating as the setup is in my bedroom and I end up switching off the STB when going to sleep.
Initially the connection was set up at home when I was not around. When I first saw the pictures, there was a lot of jerkiness in the image. Setting True Motion to high on my LG tv did help a bit, but not a whole lot. After fiddling around a bit, I set the HDMI output to use 1080i @ 50Hz in place of the auto settings and that fixed all the jerkiness problems. So if any of you are using a Dish Tru HD service and you see jerkiness, then set your output to 1080i @ 50Hz to fix the problems.
There are 5 HD channels:
Zee TV HD - This is a 16:9 channel, which seems to use upscaled 4:3 SD source material. Overall not worth watching.
Zee Cinema HD - Again same as Zee TV HD, and best avoided
The next 3 are proper HD channels and not upscaled channels with a high res logo.
ESPN HD - This channel shows a static image and only comes alive during the football matches. The static image is seen even during the 15 min break. IMO this is worse than watching ads. The quality of the broadcast during the matches is very good. The major irritant with this channel is that they do not show the time & score during the match. They show time and score approx once every 10 mins. I have had to switch back to regular ESPN a few times to see the current time during a match.
Discovery HD World - This channel does show a bit of compression artifacts, but overall the picture quality is more a function of the program being shown, a lot of the programs seem to use upscaled 720p signals.
Nat Geo HD - Almost same as Discovery HD in terms of picture quality and issues with source material. The few times I watched Nat Geo HD, the programmes came with some chinese/japanese/korean script subtitles.
My TV is a 47" panel and it is also connected to my laptops via HDMI to play movies and my brother brought his friend's PS3 for a few days. I am basing my comparision on these sources. I havent played any good quality BluRay discs on the system to base my comparision on.
Compared to the BluRay rips, the quality of the HD broadcasts, as expected are not as good. You can see compression artifacts around players sometimes and you can also see other compression artifacts in the discovery & nat geo hd channels. All this is visible only when I am sitting within 3 feet of the panel.
If I am at the regular viewing distance of around 6 feet from the panel, the differnce in picture quality between the Dish 1080i service & Blu Ray rip played at 1080p @ 60Hz is not easily visible for static scenes. On scenes with a lot of motion, the 50Hz interlaced display clearly shows a lot of motion artifacts.
I do not know if this is due to the way the dish has been placed or due to the Dish TV service, but there are frequent pauses in the audio and the picture also shows data drop outs. In one case it seemed that the backend feed was the source of the problem as the picture went away while the ESPN HD & Dish TV logos were properly visible.
There is a stupid low resolution Dish TV logo on the bottom right of all the HD channels. The logo is in a bright red colour and you can clearly see that the logo has been upsized from a lower resolution image using a very basic upscaling algorithm.
I currently do not have a 5.1 setup and I am using the built in low powered speakers of the TV, so I can not comment on the sound quality at this point.
My aim for getting this connection was to watch the world cup in HD and the system is serving the purpose nicely.
The STB I have is a Zenega D-6000 HD. I paid Rs.3200/- + 100 rupee tip for the setup.
-- no1lives4ever
I already have a Tata Sky SD STB and I will probably revert back to Tata Sky for HD once there is a TataSky+ available with HD. I bought this connection mainly to see the world cup in HD. Currently both the Dish HD & regular Tata Sky STBs are connected to the TV, so I can switch between them quite easily.
Compared to my old Tata Sky STB, I find the remote of the STB to be not as easy to use. The channel numbers on tata sky are all 3 digits, while on Dish TV they are 2, 3 or 4 digits in length, so entering a channel directly is not as easy. The Dish TV STB shows the current channel using a 4 digit 7 segment LED display. There is no power light on the STB and even when the STB is switched off, the 7 segment LED display shows something. This is quite irritating as the setup is in my bedroom and I end up switching off the STB when going to sleep.
Initially the connection was set up at home when I was not around. When I first saw the pictures, there was a lot of jerkiness in the image. Setting True Motion to high on my LG tv did help a bit, but not a whole lot. After fiddling around a bit, I set the HDMI output to use 1080i @ 50Hz in place of the auto settings and that fixed all the jerkiness problems. So if any of you are using a Dish Tru HD service and you see jerkiness, then set your output to 1080i @ 50Hz to fix the problems.
There are 5 HD channels:
Zee TV HD - This is a 16:9 channel, which seems to use upscaled 4:3 SD source material. Overall not worth watching.
Zee Cinema HD - Again same as Zee TV HD, and best avoided
The next 3 are proper HD channels and not upscaled channels with a high res logo.
ESPN HD - This channel shows a static image and only comes alive during the football matches. The static image is seen even during the 15 min break. IMO this is worse than watching ads. The quality of the broadcast during the matches is very good. The major irritant with this channel is that they do not show the time & score during the match. They show time and score approx once every 10 mins. I have had to switch back to regular ESPN a few times to see the current time during a match.
Discovery HD World - This channel does show a bit of compression artifacts, but overall the picture quality is more a function of the program being shown, a lot of the programs seem to use upscaled 720p signals.
Nat Geo HD - Almost same as Discovery HD in terms of picture quality and issues with source material. The few times I watched Nat Geo HD, the programmes came with some chinese/japanese/korean script subtitles.
My TV is a 47" panel and it is also connected to my laptops via HDMI to play movies and my brother brought his friend's PS3 for a few days. I am basing my comparision on these sources. I havent played any good quality BluRay discs on the system to base my comparision on.
Compared to the BluRay rips, the quality of the HD broadcasts, as expected are not as good. You can see compression artifacts around players sometimes and you can also see other compression artifacts in the discovery & nat geo hd channels. All this is visible only when I am sitting within 3 feet of the panel.
If I am at the regular viewing distance of around 6 feet from the panel, the differnce in picture quality between the Dish 1080i service & Blu Ray rip played at 1080p @ 60Hz is not easily visible for static scenes. On scenes with a lot of motion, the 50Hz interlaced display clearly shows a lot of motion artifacts.
I do not know if this is due to the way the dish has been placed or due to the Dish TV service, but there are frequent pauses in the audio and the picture also shows data drop outs. In one case it seemed that the backend feed was the source of the problem as the picture went away while the ESPN HD & Dish TV logos were properly visible.
There is a stupid low resolution Dish TV logo on the bottom right of all the HD channels. The logo is in a bright red colour and you can clearly see that the logo has been upsized from a lower resolution image using a very basic upscaling algorithm.
I currently do not have a 5.1 setup and I am using the built in low powered speakers of the TV, so I can not comment on the sound quality at this point.
My aim for getting this connection was to watch the world cup in HD and the system is serving the purpose nicely.
The STB I have is a Zenega D-6000 HD. I paid Rs.3200/- + 100 rupee tip for the setup.
-- no1lives4ever
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spirovious
Well-Known Member
Thanks for nice,detailed review.
So Tatasky may have edge here.
So Tatasky may have edge here.
no1lives4ever
Active Member
The OSD on the Dish HD box is just a non interpolated upscaled SD resolution OSD. It looks quite bad when viewed from close to the TV. The same resolution seems to be used for the dish tv logo overlay.
The HD STB also does not remember the last viewed channel even when one does a power cycle using the remote.
One good "feature" of the Dish HD STB and service that I am using is that I can watch the movie on demand channels w/o paying for them. When you watch the channels in the guide, the tiny box shows the MoD channel w/o any overlays. When watching in normal mode, there is a semi transparent overlay which asks u to subscribe to the channel. This overlay comprises of the info bar and another overlay on the centre of the screen. If you press the option or the info button, then you can see the full movie with a info/option overlay. These typically occupy the lower portion of the screen, so when watching a widescreen movie, you can keep these on screen if you want to see a free MoD movie.
Overall, I am not going to keep this system for long. I will switch back to Tata Sky once there is a HD Tata Sky+ receiver with the features that are present in the current Tata Sky+ box. Now that WC's HD broadcast is available with Tata Sky, I would recommend those getting a new connection to consider a Tata Sky over the Dish HD service.
-- no1lives4ever
The HD STB also does not remember the last viewed channel even when one does a power cycle using the remote.
One good "feature" of the Dish HD STB and service that I am using is that I can watch the movie on demand channels w/o paying for them. When you watch the channels in the guide, the tiny box shows the MoD channel w/o any overlays. When watching in normal mode, there is a semi transparent overlay which asks u to subscribe to the channel. This overlay comprises of the info bar and another overlay on the centre of the screen. If you press the option or the info button, then you can see the full movie with a info/option overlay. These typically occupy the lower portion of the screen, so when watching a widescreen movie, you can keep these on screen if you want to see a free MoD movie.
Overall, I am not going to keep this system for long. I will switch back to Tata Sky once there is a HD Tata Sky+ receiver with the features that are present in the current Tata Sky+ box. Now that WC's HD broadcast is available with Tata Sky, I would recommend those getting a new connection to consider a Tata Sky over the Dish HD service.
-- no1lives4ever
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