dazzwilliams
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Which amp is that? Can you share a pic
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Basic question on Amplifiers - Can one use an AVR and a Stereo amp together?
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dannyarcher
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Hi, yes -- Will be using only front LR channels.
Is this what you have?
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Music source -> Pre-Amp -> Power-Amp -> Speakers
AV Source -> AVR ---{rca-out}---|Are you saying, you connected the AVR to Power-Amp using RCA in & outs and not pre-outs?
Diagram looks fine except that HT-Bypass input should be present in Pre-Amp (not required in Power-Amp) as shown below,
rpmahale
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AVR with Pre- out...
1. Use a dedicated power amplifier with unbalance input .
2. Use IA with HT Bypass mode to power front channels .
3 IA without pre-in - connect avr pre-out to one of the analog input of IA. Initially set IA volume dial on half or 12 O' clock position. Now gradually increase the AVR volume till 9 O' clock position . Check the speakers response . Still need power, move IA volume dial to 3 O' clock position . Still need more power move AVR volume dial to 10 O' clock position. In this case Clocks 6 O' clock position is consider as zero volume dial position for both AVR and IA. If both the volume dials are encoded in numbers , it make easy to adjust the volume dial on both units. Make sure to use upto 20-25% power from avr and 70 -80% power from IA else IA pre amplifier stage will trip or IA may get damage. This is a trial and error method to use IA as PA. Anyone must do it with proper knowledge , advice, guidance and supervision . Actually this is not advisable but careful experiments may yield good results.
AVR without Pre-out...
If Zone 2 pre-out is available, use it with PA and separate speakers for stereo purposes.
If wish to integrate avr with PA/IA without pre-out , use Rockford line converter to get pre- out for main channels.
1. Use a dedicated power amplifier with unbalance input .
2. Use IA with HT Bypass mode to power front channels .
3 IA without pre-in - connect avr pre-out to one of the analog input of IA. Initially set IA volume dial on half or 12 O' clock position. Now gradually increase the AVR volume till 9 O' clock position . Check the speakers response . Still need power, move IA volume dial to 3 O' clock position . Still need more power move AVR volume dial to 10 O' clock position. In this case Clocks 6 O' clock position is consider as zero volume dial position for both AVR and IA. If both the volume dials are encoded in numbers , it make easy to adjust the volume dial on both units. Make sure to use upto 20-25% power from avr and 70 -80% power from IA else IA pre amplifier stage will trip or IA may get damage. This is a trial and error method to use IA as PA. Anyone must do it with proper knowledge , advice, guidance and supervision . Actually this is not advisable but careful experiments may yield good results.
AVR without Pre-out...
If Zone 2 pre-out is available, use it with PA and separate speakers for stereo purposes.
If wish to integrate avr with PA/IA without pre-out , use Rockford line converter to get pre- out for main channels.
A unit like this world work.
Takes speaker level input or RCA input
Cheers,
Raghu
eastofthesun
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the AVR is an Anthem MRX 500 and the power amps are mola mola kalugas.
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eastofthesun
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yes correct.
muzaffar559
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Please advise good integrated amplifier with HT bypass under 50k rupees.
I was going for denon pma 600ne or 720ne but they don’t have ht bypass.
Note I have Yamaha rxv695 avr.
I was going for denon pma 600ne or 720ne but they don’t have ht bypass.
Note I have Yamaha rxv695 avr.
If you are okay to extend a bit and can have someone hand carry an amp from US or Canada you can look at Parasound NC 200 pre amp. This has HT Bypass.
Getting an IA with HT bypass around 50K is a tough one. Keep an eye on the "For Sale" section.
Does the AVR have preouts for front L/R? Otherwise this experiment will not work even if you get something with HT bypass.
Just a preamp may not cut it for this application. Needs to be an IA otherwise the system will need external power amps
Cheers,
Raghu
Yeah. Got it. I assumed there was a PA. I again re-read and saw the OP mentioned it was only RXV 695
. My bad
Lizard King
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Amplifiers with HT-bypass - update 30. Mars 2024
Audiophile.no has made a list of stereo preamps and integrated amps that have one sort of HT-bypass. This list is updated 30. Mars 2024 with amplifiers from Audio Group Denmark, and will be will be continuously updated. Written by Karl Erik Sylthe, at 15.02.07 Translated to English in june...
Here you go. I don't think any will be within INR 50K. Audiolab 6000a at INR 78K could be closest.
I'm using Marantz PM8006 with pre-out from Marantz NR1609 for listening to Spotify. Works like a charm.
Read this entire discussion and I am still a little confused. Wondering what would work for me.... I have a marantz NR 1509 which has pre-outs. I current have a 4.2 setup ( two subs and still to get the centre channel but it can wait ) Can I add something like a xtz-edge a2 300 ( which is just a power amp ) to drive my two front speakers and also have the subs to come into play for stereo music. Any help will be appreciated!Amplifiers with HT-bypass - update 30. Mars 2024
Audiophile.no has made a list of stereo preamps and integrated amps that have one sort of HT-bypass. This list is updated 30. Mars 2024 with amplifiers from Audio Group Denmark, and will be will be continuously updated. Written by Karl Erik Sylthe, at 15.02.07 Translated to English in june...www.audiophile.no
Here you go. I don't think any will be within INR 50K. Audiolab 6000a at INR 78K could be closest.
I'm using Marantz PM8006 with pre-out from Marantz NR1609 for listening to Spotify. Works like a charm.
Yes you can add any 2 ch power amp to power your front left and front right speakers via the NR1509 and also power your subwoofers at the same time (NR1509 has Front L/R preouts which are different from your subwoofer pre outs). If you intend to power the Elac Debut B6.2 then yes they would benefit from a power amp as they are not very easy to drive. A cheap way out if usage is primarily for movies would be a crown xls 1002/1502 power amplifier , they should give you a good amount of improvement and will cost you only about 20/22k in total.
Am quite happy with the movie setup...was looking to up the stereo experience. Wanted something that would seamlessly work be it surround sound for movies or music. So in the setup you recommend, I connect the front L/R pre-out from the AVR to the power amp which would mean the front and left would be driven by the power amp while the surround speaker and the center channel ( will add in future) will be driven by the NR1509 and this will work seamlessly for both movies and music?
Yes it work seamlessly in the manner you described. But from an improvement perspective I am not sure how much better would the XTZ A2 be over the Crown XLS series , there are mixed reviews online about the Emotiva BASX/XPA vs the Crown amplifier. If you are ok with spending about 80k on a PA (the price of the XTZ seems to be 75k) do have a look at IndiQ Saptak , there is a group buy ongoing for the same and they are much better than the Crown/Emotiva XPA series (had demoed the same partially)
Just to be clear, the two subwoofers will be connected to the AVR right? And they will still work when using setup for stereo music?
Am not fully committed on a specific power amp. Was just looking at the right way to go about doing this. Will definitely look into the Crown series. Thanks a lot!
Yup, they will function during stereo listening as well. The pre-outs for subwoofer are different from that present for the Fronts. If you see below image under preouts there are 4 rca ports - "Bottom 2 for sub 1 & 2" , "top 2 for fronts (red for right front and white for left fronts).
When you get the PA , there will be 2 RCA ports on the same and you can just connect the preouts from your AVR to the Power amp , adjust power amp gain/volume and run audyssey. Then you are good to go.
I have Marantz NR 1509. I have connected it's pre-outs (L &R) to Sony TA F 590 ES integrated amp.
My main speakers are connected directly to the integrated amp. I suspect if the pre-out of this Marantz is weak. The levels are just enough.
1509 have a poor DAC in my experience and I did not want to use it for music at all. I wished if It had a digital out so that I can use Heos for streaming. Not happening. So I have my DAC connected to the integrated amp for music.
My main speakers are connected directly to the integrated amp. I suspect if the pre-out of this Marantz is weak. The levels are just enough.
1509 have a poor DAC in my experience and I did not want to use it for music at all. I wished if It had a digital out so that I can use Heos for streaming. Not happening. So I have my DAC connected to the integrated amp for music.
Thank you so much! Much appreciated! Giving the Crown XLS 2002 a serious look!
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