Denon X2800 upgrade thoughts

[mukesh9999]

Hey,

My friend has a Denon X2800, a Klipsch RP 600 II LR, a 500C Centre, and SVS SB 1000 subwoofer yet he still feels a lack of power. Could you please offer a possible cause? Should he upgrade to a better or another brand, or can he install an amplifier (but no pre-out).

I use a Marantz Cinema 60, but I'm new to this hobby, so my thoughts are limited. So, please share the thought/experience.

 

[prateekatasniya]

How far is he sitting from the speakers?
Can't he add a subwoofer instead ?
What's the room size ?
Before spending on anything else we need to make sure that the system has been used to the best of it's potential.

 

[mukesh9999]

How far is he sitting from the speakers?
Can't he add a subwoofer instead ?
What's the room size ?
Before spending on anything else we need to make sure that the system has been used to the best of it's potential.

I forget to mention he has SVS subwoofer.
MLP Distance 15 feet
room size 17 *11 feet

 

[sandeepmohan]

Could you please offer a possible cause? Should he upgrade to a better or another brand, or can he install an amplifier (but no pre-out).

Ask him to re run the calibration is a quiet environment.
Other alternate solutions are to turn up individual speaker gain levels on the AMP. As an example, if dialogue is not coming through well, turn it up.
The main issue with most AVR setups is the need to crank up the volume. I need to head into the 70% zone sometimes for the system to wake up. Doing so isn't going to kill the system.
Adjust Dynamic volume to Evening setting. Its a trial. You can always switch back.

Helps to be a little more specific too and what exactly is missing

 

[morerajendra5678]

I forget to mention he has SVS subwoofer.
MLP Distance 15 feet
room size 17 *11 feet

If 17 X 11 is the room size, no need to change AVR. Try playing with the placement of sub-woofer. This experiment will yield better results. Feeling of lack of power is due to lack of punchiness in lower frequency.

 

[argho]

A slightly different suggestion.

Change the way the volume level is displayed in the AVR.

The default is 0 (min) to 98 (max).

This display can be changed to : -79.5 dB - 18.0 dB where 0db is supposed to be reference volume.

Volume AVR-X2800H

manuals.denon.com

I always change it, and find that even -20 is often too loud.
Zero (ie reference is unbearably loud).

Whereas with the default setting, you have to increase to maybe 80 to get decent sound levels.

We are used to listening to stereo amps with 30 - 40% volume setting.
Hence increasing AVR to 80 makes us feel that there is insufficient power, and sound quality is going to be distorted.

Maybe there is an error in Denon's default volume display implementation (eg logarithmic vs linear).
Maybe this is purely psychological.

But it works. Worth trying.

 

[prateekatasniya]

I forget to mention he has SVS subwoofer.
MLP Distance 15 feet
room size 17 *11 feet

System calibration must be improved.
And - he's too close to the room boundary.