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[Akshr]

Hi All, I am planning to buy this setup for my living room.

Looking for feedback and criticism. The left wall is going to be a pain.

AVR - Onkyo RZ-30

Front - Kef Q7 Meta or Q Concerto Meta
Center - Kef Q6 Meta
Surround - Kef Q3 Meta
Sub - SVS PB-1000 Pro

Total Cost expected - 6 to 6.5 lakhs

Planning to buy Dirac Bass Control

Room - 19ft Width, 12ft Depth, 9ft Height

 

[suku_patel_22]

Hi All, I am planning to buy this setup for my living room.

Looking for feedback and criticism. The left wall is going to be a pain.

AVR - Onkyo RZ-30

Front - Kef Q7 Meta or Q Concerto Meta
Center - Kef Q6 Meta
Surround - Kef Q3 Meta
Sub - SVS PB-1000 Pro

Total Cost expected - 6 to 6.5 lakhs

Planning to buy Dirac Bass Control

Room - 19ft Width, 12ft Depth, 9ft Height

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Done forget to have a heavy curtain along the wall and a rug between the sofa and the TV. This helps in minimising early reflections and have a better sound stage.

If possible, have atkeast 1.5 feet from the speaker to the walls in all sides.

You are going with a 9 channel AVR, why not add 4 in-ceiling speakers? It will be a nice atmosphere setup. If not in-ceilings , speakers at the edge of front wall and ceiling and back wall and ceiling is also possible.

 

[Akshr]

Done forget to have a heavy curtain along the wall and a rug between the sofa and the TV. This helps in minimising early reflections and have a better sound stage.

If possible, have atkeast 1.5 feet from the speaker to the walls in all sides.

You are going with a 9 channel AVR, why not add 4 in-ceiling speakers? It will be a nice atmosphere setup. If not in-ceilings , speakers at the edge of front wall and ceiling and back wall and ceiling is also possible.

Thanks for the ideas

Erin's audio corner says from his Q11 meta review that the early reflections are helpful in the case of KEF Q11 Meta

So I actually need to test with reflections and without. I might have to place a sold board on the window to get reflections to work.

I don't have a false ceiling. I will consider adding atmos speaker 3 years down the line. Since I would want timbre match.

 

[Nagaraj S]

I strongly urge you to consider dual subs to tame room modes or very careful sub placement. I have DLBC and no amount of curve editing could beat the physics of the single sub amp (REL Predator 2) struggling to boost -7 db dips in my room. I stopped chasing such nulls with only a moderate boost of -3db and I could feel the sub has lost some attack. Moving the sub around may alter room modes to your liking, but having upgraded many single subs over years, a single sub is difficult to deal with.

 

[Akshr]

I strongly urge you to consider dual subs to tame room modes or very careful sub placement. I have DLBC and no amount of curve editing could beat the physics of the single sub amp (REL Predator 2) struggling to boost -7 db dips in my room. I stopped chasing such nulls with only a moderate boost of -3db and I could feel the sub has lost some attack. Moving the sub around may alter room modes to your liking, but having upgraded many single subs over years, a single sub is difficult to deal with.

How bad is it ? Only two people will be watching. Not more.

 

[DB1989]

How bad is it ? Only two people will be watching. Not more.

it may be bad, or not at all - depends upon the room. I am having massive trouble dialling in my dual REL T9i's in a small 200 sq. ft. room. On the other hand, i use a single cheap 12" sub for my 800sq. ft and it sounds sublime with pretty even bass distribution and without any major nulls and peaks.

Use dual subs only if one is not sufficient to properly pressurise ur room at your listening position.

 

[suku_patel_22]

I don't have a false ceiling. I will consider adding atmos speaker 3 years down the line. Since I would want timbre match.

Timbre matching is not important for the Atmos at all. It is mainly for overhead effects. Timbre matching is important for LCR and others not so much.

You can go with SVS elevation or similar speakers for the height channels without the false ceiling. They will be placed on the wall, at the junction of the wall and ceiling, right above the LR and surrounds and configured as front and rear heights respectively.

 

[suku_patel_22]

I strongly urge you to consider dual subs to tame room modes

I have a similar setup in a 17 x10 feet living, with the listening/viewing area to one side of the room next to windows. The viewing distance is 7ish feet, accounting for sofa, TV & speaker mounting etc.
In my case I am very happy with a single REL HT/1003 MKII placed next to the right speaker. The amount of bass you need depends on your personal tastes as well.

I would say, try with one sub, placing it at the corner on the left or towards the open side and then decide if you need one more.

 

[Nagaraj S]

I clearly hear sub distorting when it’s chasing nulls in bass heavy scenes, when I am boosting those nulls by more than 3 db via Dirac. If I keep it down to 2 or 3 db, the distortion isn’t much but some depth or attack from the sub is gone,

My one sub is enough to pressurise my 17x10 room. The quantity of bass is not a problem - I get plenty. But when you run Dirac, you get an idea what exactly is spoiling your listening experience.

If you are happy with one sub, don’t mind some distortion during some sub heavy scenes (assuming you have some room nulls and Dirac is aggressively boosting those nulls), then one sub should be good enough.

Or, since your have Dirac, play with boosting room nulls (assuming you have one or more) by moderate to heavy levels and see what suits you best.

 

[Nagaraj S]

it may be bad, or not at all - depends upon the room. I am having massive trouble dialling in my dual REL T9i's in a small 200 sq. ft. room. On the other hand, i use a single cheap 12" sub for my 800sq. ft and it sounds sublime with pretty even bass distribution and without any major nulls and peaks.

Use dual subs only if one is not sufficient to properly pressurise ur room at your listening position.

 

[Nagaraj S]

I have a similar setup in a 17 x10 feet living, with the listening/viewing area to one side of the room next to windows. The viewing distance is 7ish feet, accounting for sofa, TV & speaker mounting etc.
In my case I am very happy with a single REL HT/1003 MKII placed next to the right speaker. The amount of bass you need depends on your personal tastes as well.

I would say, try with one sub, placing it at the corner on the left or towards the open side and then decide if you need one more.

I have no problem with the quantity of bass with one sub. I get plenty. I have problem taming room modes.