Futility of Owning an FM Tuner in India With So Few FM Radio Stations

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Is there any Utility of Owning an FM Tuner in India With So Few FM Radio Staions?

With so few FM Radio Stations catering to most Indian cities, except may be the Metroes where there might be 4 to 5 each, is it worthwhile to invest in a Tuner? It must be futile to buy one.

Views from those who own one and even those who do not welcome.
 
For me simply Vividh Bharati is worth it. All new radio channels have RJs that screech into the microphone with a sense of unrest in their rotten cores.

--G0bble
 
I used to enjoy FM Radio when 107.1 used to play good western numbers. But now the only thing available are 'sheila ki jawani..' stereotypes played 3 times every one hour.
 
Is there any Utility of Owning an FM Tuner in India With So Few FM Radio Staions?

With so few FM Radio Stations catering to most Indian cities, except may be the Metroes where there might be 4 to 5 each, is it worthwhile to invest in a Tuner? It must be futile to buy one.

Views from those who own one and even those who do not welcome.

Very interesting question and timely too as a bunch of my friends were debating the same thing in the US the other day esp. when so many tuners are on sale on craigslist and audiogon. Good FM content is becoming rather scarce esp. after the satellite based radios have come in along with internet based ones. In addition, these radios do not have much commercials/advertisements which makes it a rather good listening pleasure. Its not a surprise that the sales of FM tuners have dropped off in teh last few years.

Another good indicator is how often does one use the tuner in an AVR. Very low per the indications above.
 
For me simply Vividh Bharati is worth it. All new radio channels have RJs that screech into the microphone with a sense of unrest in their rotten cores.

--G0bble

Sir,
Please come down from your high horse!

RJs do not have any rotten core. Many are quite nice people. I personally know couple of them. They just do their job like anyone else. It is just like any other profession. They can sound quite irritating for many folks since the programming trend in India is currently like that. Until it changes, it will continue like this.

Where are the moderators when you need them :mad:
 
Most stations play local language. In Chennai, only 104.8 plays English songs but a couple of RJs put such an atrocious fake accent that I've stopped listening to that Channel altogether.
 
All new radio channels have RJs that screech into the microphone with a sense of unrest in their rotten cores.

--G0bble

+1, agreed, this makes sick me too. That's why own collection with lots of other equipment (CD Player, record/Cassette players) required.
 
Most here would agree that there is an acute shortage of decent FM Radio Stations devoted to playing music non-stop, free of ads and tiring pointless chatter.
 
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Sir,
Please come down from your high horse!

RJs do not have any rotten core. Many are quite nice people. I personally know couple of them. They just do their job like anyone else. It is just like any other profession. They can sound quite irritating for many folks since the programming trend in India is currently like that. Until it changes, it will continue like this.

Where are the moderators when you need them :mad:

My horse is higher than yours. Get used to it :eek:hyeah:

What I hear is what I believe the RJ to be. It takes a broken record to sound like a broken record. I have no use for your analysis about what they are really like in person. If you compare the respectful quiet and measured quality of dialogue one hears on AIR to what these monkeys sound like on the air, you will know intrinsically without any need for further argument. There is no point claiming they are compelled to talk like that.

Your experience in real life with these people has nothing to do with my opinion as a listener of the voice that comes over the radio waves. It is implicit from the post that the poster is conveying his subjective impression of what he "sees" and hears on the radio waves, not a psychometric analysis of all RJs in this country. If you want to put on aggrieved tone and play offended its your time wasted not mine.

Perhaps your post needs to be moderated more than mine? :rolleyes:

--G0bble
 
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Are FM tuners sold separately and if so, do people buy them just to listen to our FM channels ? If they do, yes I think they are going to regret their decision. But most tuners are, from my very little experience and knowledge, an add-on to something.

Like what I have in my car stereo. My CD/MP3 player is not working and neither is my MP3 plugin which tunes to FM frequencies. So I listen to FM for lack of better options when I drive. Do I like it ? Not unless they talk less and play more. Not unless they come out with something similar to shoutcast.com But then, if I don't like it, I can always not tune in, maybe get my CD player repaired, maybe install a 9.1 Home Theater. Maybe. :)
 
We are not talking about RJ's as a person/human being. When we say an RJ, we mean the faceless person behind the mic that we hear on the radio.

On this point, I must agree with gobble. These RJs are just a bunch of chatterboxes. Barring none, all sound the same. No individuality. Too much talk and no substance. I would rather have the toneless lady on Vividh Bharati who announces the song, singer, film, and the requesters. Is Radio-City any different from Radio Mirchi or Red-FM, etc.

Does radio necessarily mean songs only? Why can't there be talk-shows? Why can't there be classical music - Indian or Western? Golden Indian oldies are pushed to a time when all of us retiring to our beds. At prime time there is all that blah-blah-blah followed by whang-twang-dank. I rarely listen to radio these days.

Maybe RJs are not ar fault. Maybe the stations want them that way. These FM stations are no different than Hindi news channels on TV - yeh dekho yeh kya ho raha hai ... dekho is darinde ko... etc.. The channels need to take a leaf from FM stations abroad. Or RJs need to take a leaf out of Ameen Sayani who held the nation enthralled. Or perhaps I am getting too old and senile ...
 
Why are looking for mods?

I do not listen to FM due to the atrocious programming and meaningless chatter by RJs which is targeted at the mainstream audience which devours this form of entertainment gleefully. I do not have a radio at home or in my car.

My objection is against personal attacks on a group of professionals who are basically doing what the programmer at the radio station has asked them to do. They are basically a group of people who have the gift of the gab. Most of them are voice artists.

Calling a group of professionals people with unrest in their rotten cores borders on Xenophobia.

If you look very carefully, something is very wrong and rotten !

Wasted enough time on this. Sorry for the Rant !
 
Its not a surprise that the sales of FM tuners have dropped off in teh last few years.

Another good indicator is how often does one use the tuner in an AVR. Very low per the indications above.

That said, a Magnum Dynalab FM tuner is still on my wish list. Some day ... :)

--G0bble
 
Some perspectives before horses aspire to get higher and tempers flare:
Remember the early days of satellite television in India say, mid to late 80s? There was Star Plus, Sony TV and Zee TV, and a sprinkling of other channels on the air like MTV (they actually used to play music, remember?). Those were the early days and every channel was a general entertainment channel (GEC), save for MTV. There was no differentiation or specialisation yet. If one wanted news, there was DD, and BBC or CNN if your cablewallah carried it. Lifestyle was not yet even a speck in the horizon.

Fast forward to now. Television has matured in terms of genres. There are about a million (or two) GECs in every language now. News channels too have really matured in terms of sheer number count. And there is no dearth of music channels, or movie channels, or of lifestyle channels. Name it, and it's there. Does the prolific growth (in numbers) and diversification into genres and sub-genres give the viewer more choices? Definitely. But does more number equate to better programming? You decide!

FM radio is now in the same stage of development and maturity as TV was in the late 80s.

Every FM station plays bollywood (or whatever 'wood is the flavour in that particular geography). So they are all "GECs" in a sense. There are rare exceptions - I can think of Chennai Live 104.8 (as mentioned by Capt Rajesh) who play only English-language music and their jocks also talk only in English. Another one used to be Meow 104.8 (now re-christened Oye) who were a talk show station. I guess it didn't work out for them so they are now playing music like any other FM station. Film music is king in India. Other genres like various flavours of classical, non-Filmy popular songs, etc are very, very niche and don't get airplay, unless it is being pushed by a big label with money to burn. Ask yourself when was the last time a non-filmy album released in your language?

There is one reason, and only one reason, why there are a limited number of FM stations in India - the policy of the Ministry of Information and Broadcasting. They have limited the number of FM licenses as per category of city (the four A+ metros are 8 or 9 stations, A are typically 5-6, etc). But seeing how poorly FM stations are performing in terms of commercial success and viability, it is probably a good thing that not too many licenses were issued per city. Will the recently announced Phase III of FM radio licensing change things for the listener? Not really, IMHO, because the only concession in Phase III is allowing one broadcaster to own two channels in the same city, provided the ownership of this broadcaster is below 40% of total number of broadcasters in that city. That rules out all B, C and D cities and leaves only A and A+ cities. Will a broadcaster owning two stations in a metro start diversifying content? I don't know and only time will tell.

FM licenses clearly state that the signal will be unencrypted and free to air, so the broadcaster has to get his sustenance from commercials. So expecting ad-free broadcast on commercial FM radio in India is asking for too much. A broadcaster has to make money, too.

Is the content on Indian FM stations, especially the radio jockey talks, pure and unadulterated crap as some members like to think? Well, that's something each listener has to decide for themselves and I will refrain from raking up more muck in an already messy field.
 
i too do very little radio listening but i still got myself a tuner as it makes my rack feel complete. i put it on every morning as background music when getting ready for work. this was a habit i developed from the days of worldspace. nevertheless, local malayalam programming is just junk and RJs out here in trivandrum are just your typical stereo-type local mallu boy/girl..listening to them and their views is just an absolute waste of time!!
 
During the years I was based in London, I had a wonderful experience of listening to FM Radio in the morning and all day long each day. There were so many good Radio Stations and a great variety of music to choose from: Classical, Jazz, Rock...great RJs....no nonsense. I had a Sony tuner connected to my Marantz amp and Tannoy speakers....and faultless stereo music all day long. On my Aiwa cassette deck I could record any tarcks that I liked and build a decent collection of music.

Sadly nothing like that in India....
 
Funny I could not find this news on any popular new site, I recal lreading a few days back. News from 8th July:

India Approves FM Radio Services for 227 New Cities Under Phase III

The Indian government on Thursday approved guidelines of the much-delayed FM Radio Phase III expansion that will allow private radio channels to broadcast news of All India Radio and enable revenue generation of Rs 1,733 crore from the auction of license for services in 227 cities.
Decision to this effect was taken by the Cabinet meeting chaired by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh which also approved hiking of foreign investment limit on private FM radio broadcasting company to 26 per cent from the current 20 per cent.

--G0bble
 
Ask yourself when was the last time a non-filmy album released in your language?

As a native Bengali speaker and listener I can tell you that the largest selling musical albums belong to a person who died exactly 70 years ago and he didn't compose for films. When I was a student in India during mid 90s, I along with few of my friends were avid listeners of FM radio (1 channel) and I used to enjoy the high quality programs from AIR. It was not inferior to National Public Radio by any means that I still listen to in Bangalore, by any means. But I have seen serious decline in the quality of RJs over the years when I have visited Kolkata and definitely in Bangalore. I still remember Bhupen Hajarika hosting the talk show "Aaj Ratey (Tonight Show)" the night before India - Pakistan World Cup qtr final match in 1996 and what an amazing two hours it was from 10PM to midnight. I would have never known how scholarly he was but for that two hours courtesy AIR.
 
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