Music Server

[sam9s]

you are talking about PC used as NAS. you were not talking about Home NAS. home router has 4 port or more switch inbuilt but when we are talking about home router we do not refer that as switch. similarly PC serving as NAS is not a NAS device and cannot be referred as nas (like you suggested to use a NAS as music server). a PC which is having both NAS and music server/player is a PC playing dual role of NAS and music server using third party application,. your replies suggest to me that you are not ready to listen to anybody and want to stick with you own definition of stuffs.you need to come out of your limited knowledge of IT and stop using words in your own parlance and stop thinking yourself as a person who know everything in every domain.

I am not talking about PC as NAS ... I am talking about a NAS with added features does not make it something else it still is a NAS ..... period!.
a PC serving as NAS cannot be termed as NAS .... correct ... but a NAS used as a music server will and should be termed as NAS.
your replies also suggest that "you" seem to push on your "so called 14 years acquired" - " supposedly" correct knowledge on to others.
lastly you need to come out of your superiority complex domain and stop underestimating the other person.

Please do not rest your case or yourself until you have acquired knowledge to some extent whereby you can share that with other without misleading. I doubt if you even understand what a computer or computer appliance is? A computer need not be your system with CPU, keyboard , mouse only .. definition of computer has changed and will keep on changing in this modern world

wow definition of computer changes as per your sweet convenience, but NAS will and always remain same .......... please so not contradict your own posts and beliefs, ....its reflects your poor conviction in what ever you do for living.

posting more than 2000 post does not make you a mahaguru in every domain. you may be in some but not in all.. I am not stuck anywhere and there is nothing called home or business or whtever .. only thing which matter is technology. in IT we have to be constantly upgrading/enhancing our knowledge of technologies. I am doing that and ready to learn from every individual.. are you ???

and neither does getting 14 years of IT experience .... got it ...... and oh there is nothing call home or business????, so thats how you suggest solutions to your clients ..... I wonder ...

 

[vkhandelwal]

I used not to be an amateur --- but I am now! :lol:

I tried hard not to comment but people who think about themselves as guru/pro/experts and others amateurs without reasons or backing information are kids not even amateurs.. probably they would like to share what they were referring to which made them think that other are amateurs . but heck we do not need any certificate from anyone
I prefer to be amateur than experts at least there is something left to be learned.. the information world has ended for so called pro or experts as they know it all..
as I said let these experts move to technical IT forums which has worldwide presence) instead of audio forums and I will join them there in the discussion. I am not backing out but just moving cause I do not want to waste time of other who may visit here for music server discussion. share me the link of It forum I will join there and will be benefitted by the discussions of professionals :lol:

 

[GeorgeO]

Ok, enough said..Let this thread end, and let's move on to more productive discussions.

 

[sam9s]

I tried hard not to comment but people who think about themselves as guru/pro/experts and others amateurs without reasons or backing information are kids not even amateurs.. probably they would like to share what they were referring to which made them think that other are amateurs . but heck we do not need any certificate from anyone
I prefer to be amateur than experts at least there is something left to be learned.. the information world has ended for so called pro or experts as they know it all..
as I said let these experts move to technical IT forums which has worldwide presence) instead of audio forums and I will join them there in the discussion. I am not backing out but just moving cause I do not want to waste time of other who may visit here for music server discussion. share me the link of It forum I will join there and will be benefitted by the discussions of professionals :lol:

Its Thad's modesty that he posts that way, does not necessarily make him an amateur, (again underestimating)..... and you praising that modesty still does not make you good
..... By going with your posts its you who think others are tit bits, as you were the one going all gaga over your IT experience .... lolzzz (now there I go again )

as I said let these experts move to technical IT forums which has worldwide presence) instead of audio forums and I will join them there in the discussion

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Just shows your arrogance ... nothing else ... I am gonna stay here, why not you keep posing there on your so call true technical forums and spare us here with what ever meek docile knowledge we have .....

 

[vkhandelwal]

Its Thad modesty that he posts that way, does not make him an amateur, (again underestimating)..... and you praising that modesty still does not make you good
..... By going with your posts its you who think others are tit bits, as you were the one going all gaga over your IT experience .... lolzzz (now there I go again )

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Just shows your arrogance ... nothing else ... I am gonna stay here, why not you keep posing there on your so call true technical forums and spare us here with what ever meek docile knowledge we have .....

not my arrogance .. it is yours.. spare this forum with your limited knowledge .. and share your audio knowledge only for which users are here.. that is why I am inviting you to technical forums to show yours true skills where people are real tech world.. you might not be befitted by amateurs like me or but you and me may certainly be benefitted by others in that forums.. what is the point to show yourself as and IT expert in this forum where most of the people coming are for audio and not discussions on IT and storage and probably are not from IT world . ... I did not go gaga over my experience because I need not, specially to people like you but just to share that I would have preferred to choose the option from my own field if that was relevant and feasible for me. see your first post and see what I mean.. it seemed apart from you everyone else asking for advice is novice in every other technology.. if you read my post, which Don't think you did ,my comment was not for thad .. but people who think everybody discussing here (including you) are amateurs.
I Invite you and others interested to discuss this in IT forums because other may learn from your expertise . people here might not be interested in our discussion (yours or mine) because they are coming here for audio advice and not some junk advice on NAS..

 

[vkhandelwal]

I request moderators to either close this thread or move to some other forum/part. it may result in wastage of time for people coming here for music server advice.

 

[sam9s]

not my arrogance .. it is yours.. spare this forum with your limited knowledge .. and share your audio knowledge only for which users are here.. that is why I am inviting you to technical forums to show yours true skills where people are real tech world.. you might not be befitted by amateurs like me or but you and me may certainly be benefitted by others in that forums.. what is the point to show yourself as and IT expert in this forum where most of the people coming are for audio and not discussions on IT and storage and probably are not from IT world . ... I did not go gaga over my experience because I need not, specially to people like you but just to share that I would have preferred to choose the option from my own field if that was relevant and feasible for me. see your first post and see what I mean.. it seemed apart from you everyone else asking for advice is novice in every other technology.. if you read my post, which Don't think you did ,my comment was not for thad .. but people who think everybody discussing here (including you) are amateurs.
I Invite you and others interested to discuss this in IT forums because other may learn from your expertise . people here might not be interested in our discussion (yours or mine) because they are coming here for audio advice and not some junk advice on NAS..

If I have to spare this forum, mods will let me know, you dont have to keep pushing yourself ..... and sorry I don't accept your invitation, as I said you are free to demo your IT knowledge there in your own sweet borrow hole and be happy about it .....

I am not here to show off my IT knowledge as against to what you are doing, so it does not matter to me what the target audience is, this forum has taught a lot to me, and have made some really good friends as well, so I try to give back to it by sharing what ever I do .... IT-NON IT does not make a difference.

and again thanks I prefer to stay here and share my Junk knowledge .... BTW This forum has given us ways to see, and know that the "junk" knowledge we share is worth or and if it is been read by others, so I dont need highly professional technical people like you to tell me if the knowledge I have and share is Junk or not .......

 

[cmsajith]

I think you have generalized your requirement by calling a name music server. Could you please share your thought on a music server / your requirement or functionality that you expect (non-expecting also) from a music server?

 

[cmsajith]

Just went back to your few posts and i believe you have shortlisted squeezebox as you music server, can you tell how will a squeezebox work as a music server, i believe its a music client unless we connect some memory device to read from.

Also waiting for your definition of music server.

 

[vkhandelwal]

I think you have generalized your requirement by calling a name music server. Could you please share your thought on a music server / your requirement or functionality that you expect (non-expecting also) from a music server?

My thinking of music server is any device which can access file locally or over network and feed it /accessed by locally/over network.
I don't necessarily need a device which can access the files over network device and local connection with integrated disk will work fine. it should provide me access over network or video unit to access playlist/songs.
I am looking for device similar to Marantz NA7004 or Olive products.

 

[vkhandelwal]

Just went back to your few posts and i believe you have shortlisted squeezebox as you music server, can you tell how will a squeezebox work as a music server, i believe its a music client unless we connect some memory device to read from.

Also waiting for your definition of music server.

squeezebox can be option for me as I can connect the Disk with audio files to it and connect it to my amp directly and access it over network using my phone/tablet/laptop to access playlist and songs. but my first in list is olive as it can rip cds directly and recreate cds as well for me from internal disk . it also supposedly have better DAC and accessibility . I am still evaluating between Marantz NA7004, Squeezbox touch and Olive though.

 

[cmsajith]

My thinking of music server is any device which can access file locally or over network and feed it /accessed by locally/over network.
I don't necessarily need a device which can access the files over network device and local connection with integrated disk will work fine. it should provide me access over network or video unit to access playlist/songs.
I am looking for device similar to Marantz NA7004 or Olive products.

If you are looking only for a standalone music server like a dvdp (not concerned about the possible SQ for the price tag of the equip you had mentioned) those are the products you can go for since they are very easy to operate.

The other option is to make use of a very low power consuming pc (can be an android (will take some time to support usb dacs) / linux / windows based) with the same kind of interface with local and remote file access. The plus point is the option to select a dac (~350-400$ wrt the price of olive O3HD) which will be far better than the cirrus logic dac in olive. But in user point of view it will be similar to olive in usability.

Its your call...

 

[vkhandelwal]

If I have to spare this forum, mods will let me know, you dont have to keep pushing yourself ..... and sorry I don't accept your invitation, as I said you are free to demo your IT knowledge there in your own sweet borrow hole and be happy about it .....

I am not here to show off my IT knowledge as against to what you are doing, so it does not matter to me what the target audience is, this forum has taught a lot to me, and have made some really good friends as well, so I try to give back to it by sharing what ever I do .... IT-NON IT does not make a difference.

and again thanks I prefer to stay here and share my Junk knowledge .... BTW This forum has given us ways to see, and know that the "junk" knowledge we share is worth or and if it is been read by others, so I dont need highly professional technical people like you to tell me if the knowledge I have and share is Junk or not .......

go over your posts in this thread again specially first one and think if that was sharing or trying to make a new person in forum feel.. oh!! here is the new guy and I am the NAS project guru with 2500+ post in the forum. I will suggest him the best option without even reading or assessing his requirement.. . there was no false intention of sharing what I do and what my field is but you started feeling otherwise..( hey who is this guy who is discussing with me about NAS.. hell whoever he is how can he do that with I know all NAS guru. let me hit back personally) and then you stuck with your manager and xyz years thing. such things made me reply your way. enjoy you self proclaimed expert status and IT knowledge in audio forum.. I have no intention of doing that.. I will leave you here.. and my option of meeting you in IT and storage forums is still open. probably we can learn from each other there.. I have no intention of wasting time of music lovers coming here for audio products
All the best !

 

[vkhandelwal]

This is great forum for audio enthusiasts and I have learnt a lot from this forum and from many knowledgeable people here.. I wanted to share my part back but seeing such things I don't think I want to get involved in irrelevant discussions. after so many posts here I am started to get the feeling that this part is not moderated and nobody stops people making personal comments or attacks ( made me go into that mode as well for which I apologize to all)
it feels bad to leave like this.. but all the best for all the audio lovers here .. members here are cool people and this forum is excellent ..

Cheers !!!

 

[sam9s]

go over your posts in this thread again specially first one and think if that was sharing or trying to make a new person in forum feel.. oh!! here is the new guy and I am the NAS project guru with 2500+ post in the forum. I will suggest him the best option without even reading or assessing his requirement.. . there was no false intention of sharing what I do and what my field is but you started feeling otherwise..( hey who is this guy who is discussing with me about NAS.. hell whoever he is how can he do that with I know all NAS guru. let me hit back personally) and then you stuck with your manager and xyz years thing. such things made me reply your way. enjoy you self proclaimed expert status and IT knowledge in audio forum.. I have no intention of doing that.. I will leave you here.. and my option of meeting you in IT and storage forums is still open. probably we can learn from each other there.. I have no intention of wasting time of music lovers coming here for audio products
All the best !

lolzzz man how much do you assume , again shows your arrogance.....
Seems like its the other way round ......... oh this guy thinks he knows so much, suggesting me , meee!!!, the great manager with 14 years of experience about NAS ...ha! what does he know ..... let me show him, what actual NAS is ....lolzzz (sorry cannt help it ) ..... ..... thats how it looks from my end ........
and I wonder whats my post count (you bringing it again and again) got to do anything with this ......... lame statement if you ask me .....

and again thanks for your open meeting in your forum ...... not interested, do I need to spell that for you .........

 

[sam9s]

after so many posts here I am started to get the feeling that this part is not moderated and nobody stops people making personal comments or attacks ( made me go into that mode as well for which I apologize to all)

Dont tell what mods have to do, ........ if ones goes to every post in proper chronological manner, can deduce who went personal first and when ......

 

[dips0502]

Dont know whether to start a new post or continue on this one....but these are my requirements of a music server -- Just my requirements..not my definition mind you

Must be a standalone device, not bigger than maybe a Set Top Box...

Should be able to stream music from a NAS. I already have a NAS. Therefore dont need storage built in.

Should be instantly on and ready for use in say something like between 5 - 10 seconds.

Should have its own interface, with a small display screen. Should have buttons which can help me navigate through the files on the NAS.

If possible have an Android app that can help me do the same as above.

Should have a digital out. I dont need a DAC built in.

Should not be freaking expense like the Olive. I am ok if it is under 10k.

I already have a general purpose media player, the Asus O Play. But it takes a little while to be ready for use and I have to depend on an external display unit for navigation.

Does anything that fits my requirements exists in the market. Note - A PC is ruled out ...since its just too big and I am really looking forward to a headless device with its own little display screen just big enough to tell me which song is playing and helps me navigate.

 

[sam9s]

SBT , fits I presume ......... let see.

1. Can stream music from your NAS.
2. Will switch on in 1-2 seconds
3. Has its own interface, a small display touch screen
4. It does have an andriod app. (squeeze play and squeeze commander)
5. Has a digital out (SPDIF)
6. Not freaking expensive ......but not under 10 for sure ...

But the real fun begins when you install the squeeze box server on to your NAS, and then access the music shares, that way all your Squeezebox devices can communicated among themselves including your windows, mac, Linux or even android device on the same LAN.

There must be other devices as well, which other fourms member can suggest, but do give this device a look ....

 

[vkhandelwal]

SBT , fit I presume ......... let see.

1. Can stream music from your NAS.
2. Will switch on in 1-2 seconds
3. Has its own interface, a small display touch screen
4. It does have an andriod app. (squeeze play and squeeze commander)
5. Has a digital out (SPDIF)
6. Not freaking expensive ......but not under 10 for sure ...

But the real fun begins when you install the squeeze box server on to your NAS, and then access the music shares, that way all your Squeezebox devices can communicated among themselves including your windows, mac, Linux or even android device in the same LAN.

There must be other devices as well, which other fourms member can suggest, but do give this device a look ....

Ohhh!! I had the same requirement but you suggested to use NAS to poor me instead of squeezebox.. uncle sam has learnt what NAS is ....:clapping:

 

[sam9s]

^^ hehehe ... U also required a storage device .... along with a music server ..... he just needs a network music player ...... to connect to his already owned NAS ....