Outdoor speakers - anyone ?

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Hi guys,

I need your help in setting up my outdoor setup a roof converted into a party hall cum hangout lounge, i'm planning to setup a projector to watch the cricket & football matches and occasional movie, mostly it will be used for parties and partying/dancing also.

Now, my question would be what kinda setup should i be looking at theres lotta stuff out there Active speakers/environmental speakers/passive ones. but if i go for multiple small speakers then what kinda sub do i add for the low end ?

Budget is around 1.2 lac to slightly higher also if needed. Should i be looking at AVR or bridge a stereo amp/mixer ?

The place is around 25 feet X 30 feet I'm planning to cover it with mangalore tiles and 3 sides are covered with brick walls and one side with aluminum windows.

I want all your suggestions & prices of equipments/contact numbers would be great. thanks in advance.
 

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is the budget for the speakers only or speakers + AMP or speakers + amp + projector.
 

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Budget is for Speakers + AMP . Leave the projector aside for a while now that's a future upgrade but definitely on the cards.
 

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woah i just checked and no one's replied ? how abt i hook up 2 pairs of bose 301's to a stereo AMP ? will that be enough ? what do i do for BASS ? come on guys i'm sure someone out here can give me some Sound Advice !
 

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You can do much better than putting up 2 Bose with Stereo Amp.

For you size of room I feel that you should have at least 4 speakers. 2 in the front and 2 in the rear. When you buy projector, just add sub + centre speaker in the front for 5.1. If you want 7.1, then start with 6 speakers - extra 2 going on the side wall. Now for the choice of speaker - If they are exposed outdoors to slight rain, heat and dust, then normal speakers will not do. Go for proper outdoor speakers from the below choices (between 5-10k per piece).
1. Wharfedale Neptune 100 / 200 - WHARFEDALE - In Wall & In Ceiling
2. Polk Atrium 45 / 65 - Profx - Advanced Audio Solutions
3. Work Studio 40 - Reflections AV - Products | Work Studio 40A Install Speakers - Black Pair

These speakers are better suited for outdoors and can take a bit of water dust, heat. For higher end you can look at similar from Monitor Audio, B&W, etc.

Now, for Amplifier. You will have to go for a 6/8 channel amplifier to start with for music. These can be of local brands like DNM Audio. You can also use Mixer Amplifier of Byford Audio which will allow you use 2 mics for karaoke along the music. Cost will be around 25k. When you will set up a projector, then you need to go for an AVR.

Raghav



Budget is for Speakers + AMP . Leave the projector aside for a while now that's a future upgrade but definitely on the cards.
 

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If you want PA type system there are powered and passive cabinets both, the passive ones will need an amplifier to drive them.Many brands JBL, Peavey, electrovoice, mackie...

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Thanks guys, for all your suggestions, i have a few doubts which i wanna share with u guys firstly a bit more abt the location

1. this is a sort of closed place although its on the roof & its gonna be covered from 3 sides but one side i'm gonna have a huge aluminum window which is going to be left open during a gathering. So dust could be an issue but not rain.

2. I'm def gonna buy a projector, so should i go with AVR to start with or just plain Stereo setup wherein i can watch the matches in a Stereo mode ? 4/6 channel Stereo. Also i want to connect it to my IPOD/dvd player/nitendo wifi.

I did consider the bose 301's for their price @ 17k a pair looks hard to beat Can be nicely hooked up to the steel scaffolding of the tiles. but the confusion lies in 2 areas in case i go for a small speaker setup what do i do for the Bass ? i will def need a SUB for the low's ?

Or should i be looking at those big looking Active Speakers ? with built in amp is there any advantage in buying those ? please advice.

This will be used for parties also.. and i don't wanna end up with a flat sounding setup.

Any idea on JBL prices ? where can i buy them in Bangalore ?
 

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what have you used for a ceiling since this is a terrace? If its open to sky, then what protection from rain.

I am asking since I have a similar terrace 40 X 25 with walls on four sides. Still Rain is a big isuues along with dust and pigeons etc... as it is open to sky

Thanks guys, for all your suggestions, i have a few doubts which i wanna share with u guys firstly a bit more abt the location

1. this is a sort of closed place although its on the roof & its gonna be covered from 3 sides but one side i'm gonna have a huge aluminum window which is going to be left open during a gathering. So dust could be an issue but not rain.

2. I'm def gonna buy a projector, so should i go with AVR to start with or just plain Stereo setup wherein i can watch the matches in a Stereo mode ? 4/6 channel Stereo. Also i want to connect it to my IPOD/dvd player/nitendo wifi.

I did consider the bose 301's for their price @ 17k a pair looks hard to beat Can be nicely hooked up to the steel scaffolding of the tiles. but the confusion lies in 2 areas in case i go for a small speaker setup what do i do for the Bass ? i will def need a SUB for the low's ?

Or should i be looking at those big looking Active Speakers ? with built in amp is there any advantage in buying those ? please advice.

This will be used for parties also.. and i don't wanna end up with a flat sounding setup.

Any idea on JBL prices ? where can i buy them in Bangalore ?
 

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Very true cranky.. that's what i feared. if i go for smaller speakers then i'm stuck with low bass.. not good if we wanna have dancing & active speakers gets too loud in one corner of the room. its difficult. i found out the prices for wharfedale neptunes they come in two models 100/200 prices quoted were 14/17 k respectively. Bose is the last option. but 4 of them just cost 34k. maybe i can look at the other models suggested here. Axiom and JBL. will hear them soon. maybe post some pictures here for u guys to see. but they look expensive.

I'm open to more suggestions.. i still have a couple of weeks before i buy the equipment.. cuz the steel frame work is currently going on. i have integrated speaker wiring into the frame.
 

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I think the wharfedale pricing is for a pair not single piece. They will turn out cheaper than Bose. Go for Neptune 200 as the difference in Bass will be substantial.


Very true cranky.. that's what i feared. if i go for smaller speakers then i'm stuck with low bass.. not good if we wanna have dancing & active speakers gets too loud in one corner of the room. its difficult. i found out the prices for wharfedale neptunes they come in two models 100/200 prices quoted were 14/17 k respectively. Bose is the last option. but 4 of them just cost 34k. maybe i can look at the other models suggested here. Axiom and JBL. will hear them soon. maybe post some pictures here for u guys to see. but they look expensive.

I'm open to more suggestions.. i still have a couple of weeks before i buy the equipment.. cuz the steel frame work is currently going on. i have integrated speaker wiring into the frame.
 

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I auditioned jamo speakers yesterday.. outdoor type it didnt sound very good.. started jarring a substantially medium volume.. also visited blose showroom but they couldnt play the 301's cuz the amp it was connected to had gone for repairs. then visited JBL he gave me a solution of adding " control 1 " speakers just 7500/- a pair i could buy 6 of them 21k add a sub i'm getting a velodyne 12'' sub for 14 k then buy a AVR ? but i couldnt hear the speakers and am very reluctant to buy a pair without listening to them. i've asked for a demo cuz those speakers look very small & not sure at that price range how they would sound. Any more suggestions ? i still have to try the wharfedale and axiom. does anyone know where i can audition the axiom speakers in bangalore ?
 

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Buddy...

Just look in for some options below :

First Option

If you are looking in for the wired ones, using the amplifier than...

Speakers - Sonance - CRK-10 - 75w RMS @ 6Ohms...Rs.16K pair (Rock Garden Speakers) (Water and Heat Resistent)
Amplifier - I will prefer you take in a Professional Amplifier, as one day match
last for 5-6 hrs, and an AVR gets heats up if you play it for more than 3-4 hrs... So.. Crown - 400w - Rs.19,500
Mixer - There are many.. Rs.5K..

So, i think for your place.. you can have 3 pairs of speakers that is Rs.48K, one amp, and one mixer.. so in total it will be Rs.72,500...and then get two Subwoofers, from Q.A.V. @ 120w RMS each... These are on wall speakers, and can be covered...@ Rs.29,500 each...
So in total The MRP comes to Rs.1,31,500... You can get the complete thing for Rs.1.2Lakhs...

Second Option

Prefer the Wireless, WaterProof(Not to be dipped in Water :p), Fire Resistent, 10Hrs battery backup...

Get in the Fabulous one and only Soundcast's Outcast...

Its a wireless speaker, with 10hrs battery backup, comes along with a 8" Down Firing Subwoofer, and 4 x 3" Drivers...Its a 3 feet tall & cylendrical active speaker...

It comes with a Wireless iPod Transmitter...
And one Transmitter can drive 2 Outcasts...

They are priced @ Rs.55,000 each + Transmitter @ Rs.10,000...
So, in total it comes to Rs.1.2Lakhs...
So after discount it comes to Rs.1.1Lakhs...

And its quite a good one, just have a demo of it and you will come to knw...
 
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