Spotify to offer lossless streaming service

I can totally notice the difference in newer tracks; the bass is deeper and the soundstage is wider, even when I'm using headphones. But when it comes to really old songs from the 60s and 70s, they show the lossless audio, yet they sound just like regular Spotify tracks. So, my question is, why do they even offer the lossless option if it's not actually playing in lossless quality?
 
I do not think this is the case with me. The music is more rich and expansive now. The decays are more prominent or can I say, more graceful. I can understand if the track has not been recorded using the full potential originally, the difference between lossless and MP3 will not be that great. On top of this if your system is not very reflective of what it is fed with, you will have this challenge.
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The quality of the original recording matters more than anything else.
If the original is well recorded the 320kbps streams and lossless streams will both sound good even though a decent set up will show up the differences in my experience.
Other than reviewers I don’t think many listeners will do AB testing between the two (even if made from the same master recording)
 
Spotify’s premium offering introduces new tiers called Premium Lite, Premium Standard, and Premium Platinum in five markets, including India, Indonesia, the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, and South Africa.
The Premium Platinum plan at ₹299 ($3.37) per month will give users access to the newly launched Lossless tier, along with two other seats that can share the account.
 
Spotify’s premium offering introduces new tiers called Premium Lite, Premium Standard, and Premium Platinum in five markets, including India, Indonesia, the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, and South Africa.
The Premium Platinum plan at ₹299 ($3.37) per month will give users access to the newly launched Lossless tier, along with two other seats that can share the account.
Nice, but where's lossless individual plan? :(

Currently I'm using 119rs individual plan, now to upgrade- there's no individual premium plan which offers lossless.
 
Nice, but where's lossless individual plan? :(

Currently I'm using 119rs individual plan, now to upgrade- there's no individual premium plan which offers lossless.
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Edit: Subscribed, will play tomorrow
 

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When one selects lossless, it gives the option to subscribe. Subscribed a few minutes back. I am in Mangalore.
 
Nice, but where's lossless individual plan? :(

Currently I'm using 119rs individual plan, now to upgrade- there's no individual premium plan which offers lossless.
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Finally! Lossless appears as an option under Media quality but the moment I select it Spotify instructs to change the premium plan to Platinum to avail of lossless audio.
 
All I did is upgraded from Premium to Premium Platinum and the lossless option showed up on the App.

Sound quality wise it's not a big jump from 320kbps since it only streams in 16 bit, but beggers can't be choosers.
 
All I did is upgraded from Premium to Premium Platinum and the lossless option showed up on the App.

Sound quality wise it's not a big jump from 320kbps since it only streams in 16 bit, but beggers can't be choosers.
the sound quality utter trash, waste of money. I'm going to cancel it
 
the sound quality utter trash, waste of money. I'm going to cancel it
I concur with you. Just sampled a few of my favourite tracks and found the bass to be devoid of any heft and still sounds tinny unlike Qobuz which somehow "gets it about right". What a bummer of an "upgrade" 😞
 
Hilarious - After years and years and years and years and years of waiting - this is just a pig with lipstick presented as the sleeping beauty, I think they were better off when they were "sleeping on it"; atleast there was a mystery around it :)

Regardless to be fair -
1 - there is some difference in quality for sure compared to 320K, I can't really decide if it is for better or worse. As always some songs sound better some do worse - one of those "audio things".
2 - For the price in India - I guess I will keep it for the placebo.
3 - Also the fact that it is natively available without having to pull impossible acrobatics to get a tidal or a qobuz is good enough.
4 - I have no issues with 16 bit 44, though - I think that is good enough for my ears.

However I really do not like the direction this platform is going towards, from AI artists and songs creeping up in all suggestions to just the way the auto playlist (even though it is still the better one of the competitors) is becoming more and more random.
 
As I mentioned earlier, some tracks are available in 24 bit; that's what Spotify indicates, but the quality is poor. The same track on Qubuz sounds full and rich. In my opinion, Spotify released an update to their software that claimed it was playing in 24 or 16 bits, but in truth, it remained at 320k.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
All I did is upgraded from Premium to Premium Platinum and the lossless option showed up on the App.

Sound quality wise it's not a big jump from 320kbps since it only streams in 16 bit, but beggers can't be choosers.
4 - I have no issues with 16 bit 44, though - I think that is good enough for my ears.

They have 24 bit for new songs. Old ones are 16 bit.
 
More and more, with each passing day I am rethinking my priorities in audio.

The 'listening experience' is eroding in value, lost in the choice of a thousand tracks at your fingertips where you, the poor soul after hard day's work want to listen to just 3 and rejuvenate yourself. It happened a while back with the myriad of streaming services for visual content, you keep scrolling, and after 15 minutes just give up, bemused and tired. With just 3 channels on TV, we were content, did not have the scope of complaining there is nothing to watch.
Piracy is booming again, people have caught up or are catching up to the myth of endless choices and opulence. It was great, fantastic, to take out a DVD and dedicate the coming 2 hours to an experience. An experience where you wished to learn, challenge your thought process, and most importantly, you enjoyed what you intended to enjoy perhaps since yesterday or weeks before. The 'intent' of enjoying one's time had meaning, we watched pirated copies of films we could not afford during our college days, a new horizon was discovered when you could watch movies from different lands and in outlandish languages. Today it all feels like an exercise in futility.
God knows I know now and feel to the core how less is always more.

I curate lists on IMDB and then hunt for one of the items on the list, meticulous searches yield that the content is not available even though all the big tech giants promise it is. Then I sigh and turn off the TV, an younger me would have cursed few choices words, now me has lost that energy.

Audio is going the same way, I dread the fact that it is there already. Can not give up on music, the generation to which I belong, grew up sharing content on CDs and DVDs and accumulated vast libraries. Yes, all of them pirated. You did not have much money after books and movies and cigarettes in college, so you relied on generous seniors and a shared library.
In later days like everyone else, I bought physical media, CDs to be precise. I want my library, my own library and not someone else at the other side of the world who's listening taste is similar to mine. I am putting my flag down, I claim my library as my own.

I am going to invest in a good NAS system, have my library as my own, stream in lossless or even in crap quality, my choice. I will be happier with a library of 500 rather than be lost and be another in 55 million.

Spotify lossless, lets hope that it will be fantastic. I have upgraded to Platinum, will keep the subscription to discover new music but I am going to stop relying on streaming content for my enjoyment.
 
More and more, with each passing day I am rethinking my priorities in audio.

The 'listening experience' is eroding in value, lost in the choice of a thousand tracks at your fingertips where you, the poor soul after hard day's work want to listen to just 3 and rejuvenate yourself. It happened a while back with the myriad of streaming services for visual content, you keep scrolling, and after 15 minutes just give up, bemused and tired. With just 3 channels on TV, we were content, did not have the scope of complaining there is nothing to watch.
Piracy is booming again, people have caught up or are catching up to the myth of endless choices and opulence. It was great, fantastic, to take out a DVD and dedicate the coming 2 hours to an experience. An experience where you wished to learn, challenge your thought process, and most importantly, you enjoyed what you intended to enjoy perhaps since yesterday or weeks before. The 'intent' of enjoying one's time had meaning, we watched pirated copies of films we could not afford during our college days, a new horizon was discovered when you could watch movies from different lands and in outlandish languages. Today it all feels like an exercise in futility.
God knows I know now and feel to the core how less is always more.

I curate lists on IMDB and then hunt for one of the items on the list, meticulous searches yield that the content is not available even though all the big tech giants promise it is. Then I sigh and turn off the TV, an younger me would have cursed few choices words, now me has lost that energy.

Audio is going the same way, I dread the fact that it is there already. Can not give up on music, the generation to which I belong, grew up sharing content on CDs and DVDs and accumulated vast libraries. Yes, all of them pirated. You did not have much money after books and movies and cigarettes in college, so you relied on generous seniors and a shared library.
In later days like everyone else, I bought physical media, CDs to be precise. I want my library, my own library and not someone else at the other side of the world who's listening taste is similar to mine. I am putting my flag down, I claim my library as my own.

I am going to invest in a good NAS system, have my library as my own, stream in lossless or even in crap quality, my choice. I will be happier with a library of 500 rather than be lost and be another in 55 million.

Spotify lossless, lets hope that it will be fantastic. I have upgraded to Platinum, will keep the subscription to discover new music but I am going to stop relying on streaming content for my enjoyment.
I concur, prior to Qobuz, I had a few select jazz albums, which I frequently heard - whole albums at a time - 2-3 hours multiple album listening sessions were common - all were on a local HDD accessed directly by my media player - no streaming - no fiber/clocks/external PSU/upside down hanging etc. for routers - which now cost thousands of dollars - to make a stream that went through thousands of miles of crap to sound better (in subjective imagination of reviewers) and all that . Now with Qobuz - with 5-10 jazz albums added every week (some of them utter crap - mixed with rap lyrics - disjointed sounds of sax/drums claiming new age sound - spiritual/iconic yada - yada - and what-not), I rarely listen to a whole album. Sometimes my whole listening session - about an hour a day - is wasted searching for something I like on that week's new releases. I am also yearning for simpler listening sessions, devoid of the latest drama (of-course there are some excellent new artists - but I want to discover them at a slower pace rather than 10 every week).
I am still debating on keeping/or exiting my qobuz studio subscription (been a subscriber for 4 yrs). Let's see. No interest in spotify at the moment though.
Cheers,
Sid
 
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