Best 75in TV under 2L

[Thirumalkumaran]

I think we are overthinking on puresinewave and squared ones..
I have been running my 55 DLED, marantz receiver, microserver and PS4 from the apc 1000va ups.. for 10 years.. I have ran a plasma and a PS3 from the same device.. no issues whatsoever. Squared one has issues if your device function is a factor of voltage! Squared waves switches modes and so do most of our electronics.. they are driven by SMPS, and it's a SMPS for a reason.
This is not to say that all ups are ok.. it's totally about the quality of the squared wave that comes out. Good brands like apc has low distortion in their final output.

 

[buxx]

Not so sure about this.. ProFx would place a sticker on all the AVRs they sold earlier.. "Don't use with UPS"

 

[harryneopotter]

Can you suggest decent projector .

My 65" tv is showing sign of trouble and I am contemplating between a high end 65-75 inch TV for 1.5 lac or Low end 65" led tv from Vu and projector in 1 lac.

a good projector (TW9400 for example) will cost you around 1.5-1.8 lakhs. but will be worth it if you have a light controlled room

 

[rksingh1]

How long do I wait for free sony headphones? RD keeps saying it is yet to arrive and it is already 3 weeks! Call up CC? Escalate?

 

[Donivlapog]

How long do I wait for free sony headphones? RD keeps saying it is yet to arrive and it is already 3 weeks! Call up CC? Escalate?

It would have been given in 10 days since purchase. I mailed Croma and followed up a few times since 10th day of purchase date (ie. From 20th of last month) and got it. You would have a line item in your invoice specifying Sony Ch-700. You are to receive it as if they are to give you a product you have bought for 12k honouring the deal.

 

[Donivlapog]

Apparantly the service engineer needs more time for the follow up visit to dissect and autopsy my TV for the right diagnosis. This in human anatomy is the equivalent to an eye surgery. I tried to be the most politest of people and I get just please please wait. Maybe a bit of lightgamer's assertive, demanding tone would help me in this situation. Tomorrow it is to live another Day to fight another day I guess.

 

[lightgamer]

Maybe a bit of lightgamer's assertive, demanding tone would help me in this situation.

Believe it or not, it actually works. I've got full refund after using my old lenovo laptop for 4 years and have got every single warranty request from Samsung, LG, Dell, Apple, OnePlus and ofc. Lenovo handled ASAP and properly.

You got to strike a balance though. Being assertive doesn't mean being arrogant and behaving badly with them.

 

[Donivlapog]

Yes assertive not agressive or arrogant. In our exchanges there was no consumer spending involved and so I chose to be polite even if it wasn't reciprocated and I took it with a pinch of salt but here in this case, a couple lakhs on my conviction on Sony comes crashing down. But patience is a virtue sometimes as these are the ones who can repair my TV and like the lion tamer who has held his head on to its mouth, I don't stand to gain much by uttering a few f's and b's and get them procrastinate it even further. My father and mother use the hall TV and so I want them to be happy and therefore there is a thin line betwixt the cup and the lip but hey I can be assertive and demanding here and not crossing the line. Words can't be taken back like a chess pawn movement.

 

[buxx]

Ok.. We are digressing a bit here..

What is the final recommendation/s for the OP?

 

[lightgamer]

Ok.. We are digressing a bit here..

What is the final recommendation/s for the OP?

The OP has already bought the X8000H 75".

 

[Donivlapog]

They now say it is a panel issue after testing it using a multimeter. They would have another 8000h TV's panel fixed here it seems. This is fast becoming a Sony brand tarnishing thing of late. There was another FM who went through such an ordeal before. If they give me a choice for a similar product with same price, I would opt for their 65" oled.

 

[rksingh1]

Got the Android update, installed and rebooted. No issues.

Things are settling down for me.

 

[buxx]

If you wanna see how good the Sony upscales even trash resolution content, just check this out on your Sony : Not even 480p, but damn !!

 

[Donivlapog]

I took a look at the parts inside the TV when they dismantled it to figure out the problem. All China made. And one part was both made in Taiwan and made in China imprinted!! Japan and China are like snake and mongoose poles apart. No wonder Chinese parts are showing on the quality and it's image. Sony has to keep their quality up.

 

[lightgamer]

I took a look at the parts inside the TV when they dismantled it to figure out the problem. All China made. And one part was both made in Taiwan and made in China imprinted!! Japan and China are like snake and mongoose poles apart. No wonder Chinese parts are showing on the quality and it's image. Sony has to keep their quality up.

China has the best in class manufacturing for everything except silicon fabrication (where Taiwan rules) and leading-edge display manufacturing (South Korea). Parts being made in China has nothing to do with the quality. Your panel failing is most likely due to bad Q/A and luck of the draw. Else we'd be seeing Sony TVs fail left and right.

The days of Chinese parts being of lower quality is 10 years outdated at this point. China leads most countries in manufacturing by at least 5 years, and countries like India/US by at least 20 years. Also with the current socialist climate in India, the gap is only going to grow further in the future.

If you want proof, just look at all the things manufactured in India. They will all be lower-end goods with higher-end goods being imported from China. Apple doesn't make their top of the line iPhone in India, Samsung/LG/Sony either fully import or just assemble their top of the line goods.

 

[Donivlapog]

China has the best in class manufacturing for everything except silicon fabrication (where Taiwan rules) and leading-edge display manufacturing (South Korea). Parts being made in China has nothing to do with the quality. Your panel failing is most likely due to bad Q/A and luck of the draw. Else we'd be seeing Sony TVs fail left and right.

The days of Chinese parts being of lower quality is 10 years outdated at this point. China leads most countries in manufacturing by at least 5 years, and countries like India/US by at least 20 years. Also with the current socialist climate in India, the gap is only going to grow further in the future.

If you want proof, just look at all the things manufactured in India. They will all be lower-end goods with higher-end goods being imported from China. Apple doesn't make their top of the line iPhone in India, Samsung/LG/Sony either fully import or just assemble their top of the line goods.

QA is the main reason why China is looked down upon even if they have improved vastly. Their frugal nature in dealing with dirt cheap products makes them go on a use and throw mode not QCing. Japan on their TQM standards may thrust nothing short of a defect in million opportunities (6 sigma levels). Sony might have to look into their fault lines before they loose out on the competition.

 

[Donivlapog]

If you wanna see how good the Sony upscales even trash resolution content, just check this out on your Sony : Not even 480p, but damn !!

I had this episode played on my 9300D Sony and it looks not bad. Once the bigger one is repaired I have a 480p to additionally test out and thanks!

 

[lightgamer]

QA is the main reason why China is looked down upon even if they have improved vastly. Their frugal nature in dealing with dirt cheap products makes them go on a use and throw mode not QCing. Japan on their TQM standards may thrust nothing short of a defect in million opportunities (6 sigma levels). Sony might have to look into their fault lines before they loose out on the competition.

The QA is not done by China but your brand. In your case, Sony is responsible for the Q/A of your TV and selecting the right factory to produce the thing. Even Apple gets (almost) all their products produced in China and yet doesn't have these issues because they have stringent Q/A checks and have standards to meet. Sony/Samsung and other brands are not that stringent on quality.

Again, generalizing based on countries leads to faults in the thinking you have. China produces trash grade stuff and they also produce top-tier tech. It's all upon the company on what kind of factories and Q/A Q/C they choose to do. Everything comes with a cost associated. If you cheap out, you get more faults.

 

[Donivlapog]

I try to avoid arguments. So yeah China has to just manufacture and not QC before handing out. You are right again.

 

[lightgamer]

I try to avoid arguments. So yeah China has to just manufacture and not QC before handing out. You are right again.

I'm just sharing this information because I have in the past tried to do a manufacturing start-up (it failed because of Indian red-tape obviously). I have had discussions and meetings with ODMs in China and they will make a product exactly to your specifications. You are the one who gives the exact specifications, the defect rate and everything and the product is made on that spec.

Sony in this case is very well aware of the defect rate of their current QA QC protocol. They know how many units will fail right off the factory floor, how many fail before reaching the customer and how many will fail a couple of months down the line (only a rough idea about this one). If they tighten the procedure, however, there will be a false positive rate which creeps in (good panels which get rejected) and hence overall profit is reduced.

Imagine if you produce 100k panels, with a defect rate of 1% by your QC. Now, in the remaining 99k, 1% again will fail within 2 months of operation. However, if you strengthen your QC for a 3% defect rate, only 0.01% of products will fail within 2 months of operation. The second case allows for much higher consumer satisfaction (used by Apple for example) but the first case allows for 98k units profit v/s 96.99k units. So it's a profit v/s customer care.

A higher-end Sony will fail lesser than a lower-end one as well since the manufacturer would eat that extra margin for better reviews and repeat sales from wealthy customers.