YAMAHA 10,000uf Capacitors

[suds]

Hi,

I came across source for Original Nippon Chemi-Con, YAMAHA Brand
10,000uf 71V Audo Grade Capacitors.

If you all like to go for, shoot me a mail, will import them based on Group Buy requirements. Landing cost after customs is Rs.150 each.

GB Price will be Rs.160 each plus courier cost Rs.250 for upto 10 pcs, additional add Rs.60 for in multiples of 10pcs.

Attached is pic of same.

Thanks
Suds

 

[grubyhalo]

Hi suds,
Any chances of getting 15000 uF or 22000 uF caps from United at good prices? Thanks.

 

[suds]

Hi suds,
Any chances of getting 15000 uF or 22000 uF caps from United at good prices? Thanks.

I should be able to get 15,000 uf, 22000 uf not available, and are too expensive..

I have 20,000uf 50V if you want..

 

[grubyhalo]

OK cool. Could you please let me know the price-per-piece of both 15,000 uF as well as 20,000 uF? Also, would like to know what series these are. Thanks!

 

[suds]

OK cool. Could you please let me know the price-per-piece of both 15,000 uF as well as 20,000 uF? Also, would like to know what series these are. Thanks!

Forgot to mention : 15,000 uf and 20,000 uf are not Yamaha, they are different Brands. will check and send you data sheet ,
mail me - [email protected]

 

[grubyhalo]

Forgot to mention : 15,000 uf and 20,000 uf are not Yamaha, they are different Brands. will check and send you data sheet ,
mail me - [email protected]

Thank you, appreciate it.

 

[linuxguru]

Not to rain on your party, but I just bought a pair of 12,000uF/71V Nippon Chemicon Yamaha-branded caps at Chennai for Rs.125 each. They're the same metallic blue as the 10,000/71 shown in this thread, but taller. I think they're 35mm diameter, but haven't measured them. I'm guessing that these are KMH series, but there's no easy way to tell. 22,000/50 in Panasonic TS-UP is also available at a similar price.

 

[suds]

Not to rain on your party, but I just bought a pair of 12,000uF/71V Nippon Chemicon Yamaha-branded caps at Chennai for Rs.125 each. They're the same metallic blue as the 10,000/71 shown in this thread, but taller. I think they're 35mm diameter, but haven't measured them. I'm guessing that these are KMH series, but there's no easy way to tell. 22,000/50 in Panasonic TS-UP is also available at a similar price.

Thanks !

I searched all places I could but was not able to source them, so decided to get them from Singapore. Please post the shop contacts, even I need some of these capacitors.

I checked the blue caps do not have any series in them.

20,000uf 50V capacitor is G-Luxcon , G-Luxon-HW Capcitor Datasheet here

 

[grubyhalo]

Thanks .

 

[keith_correa]

Maybe you should try for the Luxon AW series - made for audio.

 

[linuxguru]

I got the 12,000/71 blue Yamaha-branded Nippon Chemi-cons from Suraj Radio at Ritchie Street.

Arunkumar Electronics sometimes has similar caps - when I checked last, he had Sony ES-branded 15,000uF/71 Nichicon Muse, black with gold stripe for Rs.225 each. However, those caps have tab (rectagular) lugs, not PCB-mount snap-in lugs. He also stocks the blue Yamaha/NCCs with snap-in lugs, from time to time. Both the Nichicon Muse and NCC are A+ grade audio caps.

Swastik on Ritchie Street has a wide range of caps, but not necessarily high-quality Japanese at all times. He has mainly Samwha (old Samsung Electrolytics), which is B-grade Korean stuff.

Advance Micro Components on S.P.Road at Bangalore has Panasonic TS-UP 22,000/50V from time to time. These are good A-grade all-round caps, but not as musical as the Nichicon Muse or Yamaha/NCC. The Pansonics also take a while to burn in, because of the large foil area.

Arihant at Bangalore has a range of high values from time to time, but now has only some Elna 4700/50 and 12,000/63. Both A-grade, and ok for gainclones and similar stuff.

Luxon is a C or D-grade Taiwanese cap, which is lacking in durability as well as sonic quality - it is best avoided. All Taiwanese caps have impure aluminium foils of only 97% purity, compared to the 99.9% purity of the Japanese majors - Rubycon, Nippon Chemi-con, Nichicon, Panasonic/Sanyo, Elna and Hitachi.

If you want the absolute best audio cap, but no longer manufactured, it is the Rubycon/Jelmax Black-Gate FK 10,000 uF/80V. These are only available on EBay now, and the asking price is $470 (US) *per piece*. A pair will set you back about Rs.25k. For that price, I can buy about half-a-dozen assorted pre-owned 2-channel power amps at Ritchie Street, ranging from a Nakamichi IA-3, Onkyo M8000, Technics SU-500/600, Marantz PM-30/53/66, and several Yamahas, Denons and Rotels. I'll also have enough money left over for a Marantz CD-63 SE.

Edit: Vaguely related - I got some 2% Silver solder (balance Sn-Pb) at Rs.70 per 50 gm roll from a solder shop (which sells only soldering materials) in the same corridor of shops where Madras Electronics is located on Ritchie Street. The silver solder is reputed to produce very linear low-resistance ohmic joints because of the excellent electrical properties of the Copper-Silver intermetallic alloy. It can't hurt to try it at that price - it can't be worse than regular 60-40 at any rate.

 

[suds]

Maybe you should try for the Luxon AW series - made for audio.

Yes I am trying... I by default to get the best in market.. if not available here I put an effort to get them from Singapore, or where ever available.

By the time existing lot gets over, I will check for other best capacitors available.

Also I would like to share.. that what I learned, Audio Grade caps makes difference in Amplifier circuit where capacitors used for frequency, gain, or where ever they contribute to audio signal.

But when it comes to Power Supplies, all caps are used for filter and Banking power for peak usage.

 

[drphil]

Not to rain on your party, but I just bought a pair of 12,000uF/71V Nippon Chemicon Yamaha-branded caps at Chennai for Rs.125 each. They're the same metallic blue as the 10,000/71 shown in this thread, but taller. I think they're 35mm diameter, but haven't measured them. I'm guessing that these are KMH series, but there's no easy way to tell. 22,000/50 in Panasonic TS-UP is also available at a similar price.

Are the richie street components genuine? Have you tried them/measured them with respect to imports?

 

[linuxguru]

Are the richie street components genuine? Have you tried them/measured them with respect to imports?

The Ritchie St. components are imports, actually. IMHO, based on the finish, markings, weight, lettering and other features, these are genuine unused NOS Nippon Chemi-con capacitors, similar to other Nippon Chemi-con caps that I've bought in the past. They'll be going into a Symasym build in a few days, and I'll be able to reconfirm their authenticity from audible sonics alone.

 

[suds]

Hi,

I came across a dealer here, he had Nichicon capacitor with golden finish
I asked him how many he got, since I wanted to buy in bulk, he said they are Chinese type, not good, not original Nichicon.

so I don't buy parts available stock in local market anymore, I directly get imported instead.

let me also see if I can go to Chennai and pick sample of these and see how they are.

Thanks again..

 

[linuxguru]

I came across a dealer here, he had Nichicon capacitor with golden finish
I asked him how many he got, since I wanted to buy in bulk, he said they are Chinese type, not good, not original Nichicon.

If you've got a sample, post a picture of the suspected fake Nichicon - I might be able to tell if it's fake or genuine. I've seen only 2 or 3 Nichicons in gold can with black stripe in the past few years in both Ritchie St. and S.P.Road, and they were all authentic - a Nichicon MUSE Fine Gold 1000/25, a Nichicon MUSE KG 1000/25 and a Nichicon MUSE SW 10/25.

There are far fewer counterfeits in circulation now than people think - it costs a lot of money to make a counterfeit with exactly the same finish and appearance as the original, and maintain a supply chain for it. It will end up costing more than the original, like the Chinese 2sc5200/2sa1943 counterfeits which are priced at ~Rs.100 to Rs.150 each, compared to the ~Rs.40 of the original Japanese Toshiba BJTs, which are widely available everywhere. Apart from that - where is the need to counterfeit, when Nichicon MUSE caps are widely available in large quantities in most electronics centres in South-East Asia, and can be freely imported by anybody in India?

 

[kapvin]

For that price, I can buy about half-a-dozen assorted pre-owned 2-channel power amps at Ritchie Street, ranging from a Nakamichi IA-3, Onkyo M8000, Technics SU-500/600, Marantz PM-30/53/66, and several Yamahas, Denons and Rotels. I'll also have enough money left over for a Marantz CD-63 SE.

Hi, I guess I'm leading you off topic here is a big way.. but would you care to elucidate..
pre -owned- in what condition? where?

i would be grateful if you could pm me, in order to keep the thread focussed on the original topic

thanks in advance!

kapvin

 

[suds]

Off topic

Not to rain on your party,

Now that this have gone little off topic! like to clarify on this.. what do you mean by above ??

you yourself said caps cost range of Rs.125 to Rs.225
No say the PSU is priced at Rs.1800, which uses 8 caps, keep lowest cost Rs.125 x 8 = Rs.1000, (and for Rs.225 = Rs.1800)
then again comes Resistor , Thermistor, PCB cost ! (FIY PCB is FR-4, 2mm PCB with 70microns copper, SMOBC PTH with solder mask and silk legend.. guess how much setup and photo plotting costs !)
if you got enough money from things you do.. don't assume all are privileged like you, I put in my salary money to DIY, I even gave my no to your, so to clarify things offline, but u never responded.

Don't know why some speak others brains, ! may be they don't trust their own..

 

[linuxguru]

you yourself said caps cost range of Rs.125 to Rs.225
No say the PSU is priced at Rs.1800, which uses 8 caps, keep lowest cost Rs.125 x 8 = Rs.1000, (and for Rs.225 = Rs.1800)
then again comes Resistor , Thermistor, PCB cost ! (FIY PCB is FR-4, 2mm PCB with 70microns copper, SMOBC PTH with solder mask and silk legend.. guess how much setup and photo plotting costs !)
if you got enough money from things you do.. don't assume all are privileged like you, I put in my salary money to DIY, I even gave my no to your, so to clarify things offline, but u never responded.

Don't know why some speak others brains, ! may be they don't trust their own..

I'm not sure I understand your tirade, but I did not receive a PM from you - I did respond to PMs from two others on this forum and gave them the information they wanted. You are welcome to purchase as many pieces as you wish directly from Suraj Radio or anybody else, for that matter; you may also offer them on resale here, if you wish.

If you have a completed PSU PCB that you wish to offer, either bare or populated, please go ahead and do so. I'm in no way objecting to your business - I'm sure that there are many who will benefit from your offers.

 

[drphil]

I'm not sure I understand your tirade, but I did not receive a PM from you - I did respond to PMs from two others on this forum and gave them the information they wanted. You are welcome to purchase as many pieces as you wish directly from Suraj Radio or anybody else, for that matter; you may also offer them on resale here, if you wish.

If you have a completed PSU PCB that you wish to offer, either bare or populated, please go ahead and do so. I'm in no way objecting to your business - I'm sure that there are many who will benefit from your offers.

Thanks for the clarification, as I really didn't know by what it meant to "rain on this party?" We are in a diy talk over here. I feel it is better for all of us to contribute here. If you can confirm all the sources you have posted cos many a times in SP road they shopkeepers refuse to even talk when you ask for certain components like the ones you mentioned here. As far as richie is concerned if we can get the parts from there from authentic sources, the info should greatly help anyone. I think its a great thing to buy a kit sitting in the comfort of your home if you are a first time DIYer..

@Linuxguru, myself being a linux user, would love to see you collaborate on sources so that the entire DIY community can benefit, similar to the principle in OSS development- in case you feel that Suds was palming anyone of with expensive stuff, which i dont think so- considering the fact that he has imported all that he is offering, you could fill us in with your input in a more community spirited manner, rather than "raining on someone's party".

I think we have the thread back on track. awaiting more solid inputs and sources-like LinuxGuru has so kindly pointed out. thanks...