jamo C605/ C607

[NMyTree]

I know what you mean,i was considering a c805hcs (as they seem to be fair value at mo). & c80 or bk sub,but i had a long hard look at my situation ie:current power of av amp,size of my room,acoustics etc.My dealer who also sells about 100 other brands knew i was fond of the c805 jamos.But he suggested i maybe come down a peg or two and consider the c607/605 hcs & sub650 due to my room size and equipment.So i am expecting to collect either c607/605 set with sub650 in next couple of days.I CANT WAIT:yahooS,B my dealer also told me if it comes to the 605s i'd be hard pressed to detect a big difference to 607s due to the sub in the set-up.But he did say the c607 vs c605 on 2 ch alone there would be a distinct difference.

Yeah, I agree with that.

The C607 will be a big benefit in two channel stereo.

A lot depends on your listening habits and what kind of material you will be listening to. If you listen to a lot of music and watch a lot of movies....and you're going to be using an Audio/Video Receiver or Processor; then, I think the C605 will be your best bet. If you're going to have one or two subwoofers, you could go with then C605.

But, if you think that you may want to get a two channel stereo preamp some time in the future, the C607 should be the one you get.

Another thing, if you listen to much more music than movies; the C607 would be better for you. This way, you wouldn't have to turn on the subwoofer when listening to just two channel music.

Ideally and if you can afford it, I would always suggest to get the best speaker you can afford.....and that would be the C607, in this scenario.

But consider the factors I mentioned above and decide what's best for you.

 

[suri]

You know what? This whole thing is getting silly, now.

YES!

this thread has moved beyond the inscrutable attributes of Jamo speakers!

let us all go beyond this - to the glory days of yore!:yahoo:

the AXIS

and the ALLIANCE!

Hitler and Mussolini - against the rest of the world!

the battle of non-jamos will be fought against the jamos.

take yer sides all you redoubtable combatants!

this is going to get interesting now, maladjusted, before we are all chucked out!

before anyone butts in - I WANT TO BE HITLER!

let the preparations begin!

 

[NMyTree]

YES!

this thread has moved beyond the inscrutable attributes of Jamo speakers!

let us all go beyond this - to the glory days of yore!:yahoo:

the AXIS

and the ALLIANCE!

Hitler and Mussolini - against the rest of the world!

the battle of non-jamos will be fought against the jamos.

take yer sides all you redoubtable combatants!

this is going to get interesting now, maladjusted, before we are all chucked out!

Seriously, you've added practically nothing to this thread; other than a need to satisfy your sense of fun. It is interesting you chose to quote one little sentence from my very large post. Especially, that one specific sentence. While you ignore a bunch of other interesting points I made.

Despite your opinion, there's plenty of useful information in this thread about Jamo speakers.

No one should be chucked out for this thread. Unless of course, you're only real intention Suri, is to get this thread closed down.

 

[suri]

Seriously, you've added practically nothing to this thread; other than a need to satisfy your sense of fun. It is interesting you chose to quote one little sentence from my very large post. Especially, that one specific sentence. While you ignore a bunch of other interesting points I made.

Despite your opinion, there's plenty of useful information in this thread about Jamo speakers.

No one should be chucked out for this thread. Unless of course, you're only real intention Suri, is to get this thread closed down.

that, NMyTree, is my real intent

 

[marsilians]

UH-OH,here we go again,you say you wont get drawn into pro/con of the jamos,but is'nt this a jamo thread?

From the thread desc., this is NOT a Jamo thread though the OP did ask for opinions - I was wanting to understand why going down to 2 ohm was considered bad vs. going to 4. thats all. The question was meant to be brand agnostic.

Actually there seems to be to many captains on this ship.....again NMYTREE seems to be trying to help then more scrutiny from the 20,000 post boys!

I appreciate what nmytree has done and read the gist and did not go through the 150+ posts.

Also as I mentioend before, I am catching up on the thread and said my questions could be naive to which NMytree has directed me to the specific post. Thx for that.

 

[maladjusted]

that, NMyTree, is my real intent

Heres SURI he's BAACK

 

[NMyTree]

that, NMyTree, is my real intent

Obviously.

 

[maladjusted]

From the thread desc., this is NOT a Jamo thread though the OP did ask for opinions - I was wanting to understand why going down to 2 ohm was considered bad vs. going to 4. thats all. The question was meant to be brand agnostic.



I appreciate what nmytree has done and read the gist and did not go through the 150+ posts.

Also as I mentioend before, I am catching up on the thread and said my questions could be naive to which NMytree has directed me to the specific post. Thx for that.

OH!you noticed he had actually posted over 150 times and then picked out the negative ones just to grill him.CAN WE NOT MAKE THIS A NORMAL THREAD DISCUSSION (oh no we cant suri's back,with his fiery trident piercing our posts!:lolSeriously though lets try?

 

[NMyTree]

.....down to 2 ohm was considered bad vs. going to 4. thats all.
.

The truth is neither 4 ohm or 2 ohm should be appealing.

It would be wonderful if all speakers could maintain a higher, even 8 ohm impedance and be as efficient as possible.

But there many contributing factors.

From what I understand.....6 ohm, which are what the Jamo speakers in question are rated as; typically sit in the 8ohm range and dip down to the 4ohm range; as the lower frequencies demand more power. Bass frequencies...lower bass frequencies demand more current.

The Jamo C809 are an 89 db sensitivity speakers and are 6 ohm impedance. T

That's not as terrible load by any means. There are a lot of worse loads out there. Such as 85 db....86 db ...with 4 ohm that dips down to 2 ohm and some even 1 ohm.

Subhash claimed the C809's sensitivity is quite low. Realistically speaking, it's not. It's not the best and most efficient load. But it's not low, either.

But the C809 will dip and require good, high quality current/power.....because they pump out deep, powerful bass.

And yes, it applies to all speakers. Which is what I have stated a few times in this thread. The higher quality power supply and available more quality current; the better any speaker will sound.

That's why it is unfair and misleading to judge any speaker being driven by a cheap, mediocre receiver/amp.

 

[maladjusted]

Yeah, I agree with that.

The C607 will be a big benefit in two channel stereo.

If you listen to a lot of music and watch a lot of movies....and you're going to be using an Audio/Video Receiver or Processor; then, I think the C605 will be your best bet. If you're going to have one or two subwoofers, you could go with then C605.

But consider the factors I mentioned above and decide what's best for you.

Yea,my room is quite small approx. 20sq mtrs and i will be using a multi ch. reciever.It has a good quality amplifier on board.Well able to drive a decent speaker package.So the 605s should suffice,yes?

 

[marsilians]

OK I get what you are saying and do agree wrt the dips and speaker sensitivity. 8/6 ohm impedences are very managable even with decent AVRs.

I personally feel that 89 db would make them sensitive only if its in an anechoic chamber (the room sensitivities are typically higher). Again, its my personal opinion after installing about 40 odd systems over the past few years.

The truth is neither 4 ohm or 2 ohm should be appealing.

It would be wonderful if all speakers could maintain a higher, even 8 ohm impedance and be as efficient as possible.

But there many contributing factors.

From what I understand.....6 ohm, which are what the Jamo speakers in question are rated as; typically sit in the 8ohm range and dip down to the 4ohm range; as the lower frequencies demand more power. Bass frequencies...lower bass frequencies demand more current.

The Jamo C809 are an 89 db sensitivity speakers and are 6 ohm impedance. T

That's not as terrible load by any means. There are a lot of worse loads out there. Such as 85 db....86 db ...with 4 ohm that dips down to 2 ohm and some even 1 ohm.

Subhash claimed the C809's sensitivity is quite low. Realistically speaking, it's not. It's not the best and most efficient load. But it's not low, either.

But the C809 will dip and require good, high quality current/power.....because they pump out deep, powerful bass.

And yes, it applies to all speakers. Which is what I have stated a few times in this thread. The higher quality power supply and available more quality current; the better any speaker will sound.

That's why it is unfair and misleading to judge any speaker being driven by a cheap, mediocre receiver/amp.

 

[NMyTree]

Yea,my room is quite small approx. 20sq mtrs and i will be using a multi ch. reciever.It has a good quality amplifier on board.Well able to drive a decent speaker package.So the 605s should suffice,yes?

Yes, I would think so. Especially if your main concern is movies.

The C605 should fit your needs perfectly. They are shorter than the C607 (by roughly 6 inches), same width and one inch shorter in depth.

The only other thing I could think of is this. If in the future you move your system into a bigger house or bigger room, the C607 would be able to crank in bigger rooms.

Either way, for movies ....that Sub650 will hammer out some killer bass, in a room like yours

 

[suri]

OI!
looking at myself in the mirror, looks like i am the evil axis cavorting in a sea of good!

i will back off now, cease to irritate the genuine participants, and hope that this thread contributes to the general good of the forum!

 

[NMyTree]

OK I get what you are saying and do agree wrt the dips and speaker sensitivity. 8/6 ohm impedences are very managable even with decent AVRs.

I personally feel that 89 db would make them sensitive only if its in an anechoic chamber (the room sensitivities are typically higher). Again, its my personal opinion after installing about 40 odd systems over the past few years.

The draw back of higher sensitivity speakers...such as 94db ....96db...even some 92db speakers is, that they pick up and convey any imperfections in your system. If you have a noisey preamp or ampilifier or even noisey power lines outlets, you're going to get much louder buzzing, humming and maybe even dirty distortion coming through the tweeter.

There's benefits and drawbacks to any design.

 

[NMyTree]

OI!
looking at myself in the mirror, looks like i am the evil axis cavorting in a sea of good!

i will back off now, cease to irritate the genuine participants, and hope that this thread contributes to the general good of the forum!

You have not irritated me.

One need not be irritated to identify and realize the intentions of another.

It is what it is.

 

[maladjusted]

Yes, I would think so. Especially if your main concern is movies.

The C605 should fit your needs perfectly. They are shorter than the C607 (by roughly 6 inches), same width and one inch shorter in depth.

The only other thing I could think of is this. If in the future you move your system into a bigger house or bigger room, the C607 would be able to crank in bigger rooms.

Either way, for movies ....that Sub650 will hammer out some killer bass, in a room like yours

Well thats what the jamo dealer told me and actually i opted for the c605hcs in black(w. c60sur's) a few mins ago as the c607s he has are dark-apple.there is a 200 difference anyway for 607s.I've just been told i've to pick up wed or thurs. morn.I got some nickel-plated plugs for connections,but what difference this will make is debatable,but the connections are nickel bi-wire to c/overs.(as you know from your 607s)so i have 2 extra amps as i am going 5.1. Did you bi/amp-wire your 607s?Did it make an audible difference if you did? :cheers:

 

[maladjusted]

OI!
looking at myself in the mirror, looks like i am the evil axis cavorting in a sea of good!

i will back off now, cease to irritate the genuine participants, and hope that this thread contributes to the general good of the forum!

SURI i for one commend you for your honesty!Erm...you are being honest are'nt you??

 

[maladjusted]

Maladjusted - I dont know how many posts of reignofchaos you have read. But having spent some time on this forum I am aware that he is somebody who knows his way around audio systems.

Like I said, a knuckle rap test in and of itself does not need to be conclusive. But it is one of the factors. Undeniably.

I'm just realising you said ROC knew his way around audio systems.But he said the E855 were speakers he owned,but the c605s were crappy.In actual fact the spec&build on both pairs of speakers is identical exept better quality drivers on the 605s.So how can 1 pair of speakers which is identical to another pair be of better quality?well this is coming from someone that knows his way around audio according to yourself,vortex.NMYTREE is exactly right in his post about certain people having their say when they know absolutley zilch about said speaker(s).

 

[maladjusted]

Peace - to the angels as well as the dark ones

Well i suppose i'm at the dark end of the class along with suri & nmytreeand not in the light with yourself & the rest of the angels.:sad:

 

[suri]

SURI i for one commend you for your honesty!Erm...you are being honest are'nt you??

maladjusted, absolutely honest and gently evil!