crashnburn
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How is the internal App compared to FS and others?
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Love4sound
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You mean the internal apps of the MI tv? Another FM commented the tv is better then FS. In an avr set up for sure the FS is a bad investment
crashnburn
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Exactly. But first INITIAL INSTALL VISIT is typically INCLUDED. Hence, I asked.
Thanks for your reinforcement. Yes, I do have plans to get shield pro. Only question is when.. will there be a 2021 Shield pro? That's what is holding me to pull the trigger
Love4sound
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Nvidia has released 2015,2017 and 2019 so one in every two years. But there is no assurance they will release one in 2021. But if you can get your hands on 2021 shield go for it. Apple TV is better as per owners feedback for ott alone. Shield main advantage is Kodi and local playback.
My hunch is the Exo Player, which most of the FireStick Apps leverage for playback, has some role. I have to super cheap Roku, and it outperforms FireStick in every possible way (Tested with Hulu/Netflix/Apple Tv+).
lightgamer
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That might definitely be the case. However, if ExoPlayer is responsible all android based media players will have this issue, including the shield.
That got me thinking that probably it's a combination of the Player and the Audio framework; Shield uses stock Android (TV), whereas FireStick is on a customized version of Android.
lightgamer
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Actually I found the issue. Android downsamples everything to 24-bit 48KHz and hence can't bitstream high resolution HD audio to anything. You'll need to use custom firmware (Tidal uses it) to fix that, and ExoPlayer definitely doesn't.
Since firestick won't be bitstreaming, there will be a transcode happening which will lower the quality depending on the algorithm used.
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Based my personal experience with both FS and Nvidia, it is not just the audio but even the HDR performance of FS is quite poor compared to the latter.
I understand the argument that bits are bits in digital domain but the reality is that there is difference between the two.
Love4sound
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Exactly. It’s not that others here aren’t aware of the technical details. I have done enough side by side comparisons and shared my feedback. There is no need for me to explain technically and waste every ones time when I can just finish it in one sentence that FS is crap in an avr set up. I know a lot of other fms who also stated the same and moved to other devices like Apple TV or the shield. Even a blu ray player is a better choice in an avr set up as most players now come with Netflix and prime app. I have no interest to argue with anyone that I know better. I am here in this forum sharing my gears and how they perform in my room so others like me can benefit. I don’t want to waste time taking about things I don’t own. Any one can do that. That other fm set up is really good looks beautiful as well.So I just advised him to move from fs which is absolute BS in an avr set up
Here is another clue..
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Precisely the point. I learnt a lot from this forum based on other FMs experiences and thier mistakes.
lightgamer
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It's a fairly buggy device and Amazon can't be bothered to fix it. Even basic things like framerate/res matching only work on 2 apps. I've mentioned about the bugs multiple times in the past.Here is another clue..
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Then again it's a 3000 rupee device so can't fault it too much. If you can afford it, there are definitely better streamers out there like Apple TV 4k which also has Infuse and direct play for SSA subtitles on Plex.
That's true; I can't blame them much. Also, it's not their core business; else, they would have delivered a quality product like Roku within the same price bracket.
sandeepmohan
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Can you elaborate on this?
Component quality has everything to do with delivery of digital and analog audio and video. A lot of TV's (can't comment on the TV being discussed here) have their internal processing hardware built around Rasberry Pi or similar base boards. We know how well that works!
What you are suggesting also means there is no difference in a product using Nichicon or Keltron cap.
sandeepmohan
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This is a surprise.
I can understand using a Blu Ray player or PS4 over the TV based App.
Better than a shield is a hard sell for me atleast.
Netflix has ATMOS content that Firestick 4K doesn't support.
TBH FS4K is more of a makeshift arrangement in the entire chain. MI's apps is way better.. TIDAL on MI provides ATMOS music, while FS 4K doesn't. That's a different that MI's app is unstable and buggy.
Shield Pro 2019 doesn't have gigabit port and HDMI 2.1. Apple TV 4k doesn't have Kodi and is better for people who have invested in Apple ecosystem.
So, the current compromise is to use mix of MI TV apps and FS 4k.
BTW, Tidal and Kodi works very well on TV app.
Love4sound
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The difference I noticed was not by a huge margin between the shield 2017 and the PS4 or the Bluray player. I have sold both the Bluray player, PS4 and very comfortable with shied pro 2019. Firestick for sure was absolutely horrible among all these devices and doesn’t belong in an avr set up
Love4sound
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It does have a gigabit port. I remember seeing 1000mbps in the LAN interface section in my shield pro 2019
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