JBL 4343 coming soon to Mumbai
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Excellent choice Prem. Lamm is a superb brand in terms of musicality. Their customer support is also very good.
Cheers,
Sid
heliumflight
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square_wave
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Is the LAMM known to be a good combination with the JBL ? Which model did you pick up ?
heliumflight
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I have heard the Lamm M1.2 Mono blocs connected to Chord Dave and Marten speaker. It has a soft warm presentation though it is a mammoth beast.
LAMM is anything but soft. It’s not warm either. It’s very neutral. The speakers you heard it with may not have been a good match with LAMM. LAMM normally likes speakers which are easy to drive even though it says it can handle all kinds of speakers.
heliumflight
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I did an AB test with EAR 509 mk2 tube mono blocs (25 anniversary edition) and found it to be more warm.
I have not heard this particular EAR amp. But the EAR in high end circles in terms of high fidelity is a notch or two below LAMM. LAMM is in the ultra top end of amps. To get it to play to it’s potential, everything has to be perfectly set up. It will not shine with a power conditioner or an aftermarket power cord. You have to use it’s supplied power cord. It needs isolation. Either a SRA base or a one inch solid steel base
There’s no one amp for all speakers. Maybe EAR synergy with Marten is better than LAMM.
There’s no one amp for all speakers. Maybe EAR synergy with Marten is better than LAMM.
Then whats your next option?
I will be getting the LTA Ultralinear and use it for a year. I like the Berning sound so didn’t want to experiment much. Thought I should buy an amp whose sound I am familiar with. In the meantime it gives me time to explore other amps. My previous Berning was 10 watt. This is 20 watts. Will be interesting to see what the extra 10 watts brings to the table
never came across a sale thread from you
what underground cult are you feeding your goodies to Part 1
I have been putting off going to Prem’s for a long time. Mainly because week nights did not work for him and weekends I wasn’t going to Bandra. Finally, shook off the lethargy and with the self righteousness of someone who worked the Deepavali weekend, I decided to trudge.
Even then with some reservations. I wasn’t going to listen to the famed Bernings or the Western Electric cables driving the JBL 4343 - instead a Denon all in one!
Boy, am I glad I went! His beautiful house (everything in its right place, to quote Radiohead) was transformed into a Studio when the needle hit the groove. And what mighty speakers.
“Hey there is more reverb on this”
“Did you see that he changed the guitar?”
“Oi, didn’t notice before but this song is driven by bass.”
The sound was very different from the sound I go for - emphasising mainly tone (BBC zindabad). This was extremely good on transients, initial attack was electrifying and voices, especially male voices, were outstanding. Bass was tight.
Higher up is where I would prefer the BBC. The inner resolution (micro dynamics) is addictive with BBC. For example, say woodwinds in orchestral sounds spooky. Roundness. Sweetness in strings - accuracy be damned. Despite the fact that it won’t rock out as well.
Like I told him and Hari, if I were a rich man (Dee Dee Dee Dee Dee Dum), I would probably go for a Harbeth 40.2. And have the option of Prem’s for a rock evening.
Prem’s room was also great. His hospitality immaculate. For those who have never heard what a mastering engineer hears - go and listen now!
Area of improvement: his dancing. I mean, dude!!
I have been putting off going to Prem’s for a long time. Mainly because week nights did not work for him and weekends I wasn’t going to Bandra. Finally, shook off the lethargy and with the self righteousness of someone who worked the Deepavali weekend, I decided to trudge.
Even then with some reservations. I wasn’t going to listen to the famed Bernings or the Western Electric cables driving the JBL 4343 - instead a Denon all in one!
Boy, am I glad I went! His beautiful house (everything in its right place, to quote Radiohead) was transformed into a Studio when the needle hit the groove. And what mighty speakers.
“Hey there is more reverb on this”
“Did you see that he changed the guitar?”
“Oi, didn’t notice before but this song is driven by bass.”
The sound was very different from the sound I go for - emphasising mainly tone (BBC zindabad). This was extremely good on transients, initial attack was electrifying and voices, especially male voices, were outstanding. Bass was tight.
Higher up is where I would prefer the BBC. The inner resolution (micro dynamics) is addictive with BBC. For example, say woodwinds in orchestral sounds spooky. Roundness. Sweetness in strings - accuracy be damned. Despite the fact that it won’t rock out as well.
Like I told him and Hari, if I were a rich man (Dee Dee Dee Dee Dee Dum), I would probably go for a Harbeth 40.2. And have the option of Prem’s for a rock evening.
Prem’s room was also great. His hospitality immaculate. For those who have never heard what a mastering engineer hears - go and listen now!
Area of improvement: his dancing. I mean, dude!!
Part 2; Prem mentioned that the tone can be changed by moving a cm or two. Never to resist the chance to listen and a wet Friday evening, off again to Prem’s.
Attack of the clones; we started off 1.5 cm behind where we sat the other day and Prem said sound had less attack and more tone and I nodded listlessly and did not nod to the music. So Prem started his evening workout by moving back a cm more
Return of the Jedi aka position J: awesomeness! More flow, much better tone and feet and head happy bobbing. But Prem really needed his exercise. Half a cm back again.
The Phantom Menace: a large scale thickening of voices. No baba. Give me the flow. The Premster said let’s go back to where we listened to the other day
The Force Awakens: the sound was again all attack and lost flow and tone. Prem said “perhaps half a cm forward”. Go for it I said, sipping whiskey (hey not complaining)
A New Hope: this was to me the second best position. Did not have all the magic of position J, but was not strident as the previous one. Get back, Jojo. But Prem wasn’t done yet. Wanted to move it marginally ahead of position J
Empire strikes back: very hifi suddenly. A ting here and a tong there. Just missing the magic.
The last Jedi: back to position J and it bloomed. Mister this is it. Listened to Fleetwood Mac and this speaker is meant to rock. So many details.
Rounded off with Asha going “Piya Tu, ab toh aaja”. Very appropriate.
What a fun and educative experience. Kids don’t try it ar home. Certainly I don’t want my butt kicked moving speakers out and about.
Attack of the clones; we started off 1.5 cm behind where we sat the other day and Prem said sound had less attack and more tone and I nodded listlessly and did not nod to the music. So Prem started his evening workout by moving back a cm more
Return of the Jedi aka position J: awesomeness! More flow, much better tone and feet and head happy bobbing. But Prem really needed his exercise. Half a cm back again.
The Phantom Menace: a large scale thickening of voices. No baba. Give me the flow. The Premster said let’s go back to where we listened to the other day
The Force Awakens: the sound was again all attack and lost flow and tone. Prem said “perhaps half a cm forward”. Go for it I said, sipping whiskey (hey not complaining)
A New Hope: this was to me the second best position. Did not have all the magic of position J, but was not strident as the previous one. Get back, Jojo. But Prem wasn’t done yet. Wanted to move it marginally ahead of position J
Empire strikes back: very hifi suddenly. A ting here and a tong there. Just missing the magic.
The last Jedi: back to position J and it bloomed. Mister this is it. Listened to Fleetwood Mac and this speaker is meant to rock. So many details.
Rounded off with Asha going “Piya Tu, ab toh aaja”. Very appropriate.
What a fun and educative experience. Kids don’t try it ar home. Certainly I don’t want my butt kicked moving speakers out and about.
Thanks Vivek. It was a pleasure hosting you and Hari. I did some more fine adjustments today. Wasn’t happy with any of the position we tried yesterday.
Found a new position which I like better than any of the positions we tried. It’s 1.5 cm ahead of the position you and Hari heard the other day. I think this 1.5 cm ahead strikes a good balance between attack and tone. The J position you liked is very sweet sounding but doesn’t give me the attack I am used to when listening in a studio.
Found a new position which I like better than any of the positions we tried. It’s 1.5 cm ahead of the position you and Hari heard the other day. I think this 1.5 cm ahead strikes a good balance between attack and tone. The J position you liked is very sweet sounding but doesn’t give me the attack I am used to when listening in a studio.
Vivek is right. The J position is where it all falls into place. At other positions it does a few hifi things better but at J position, music plays as a whole and it all comes together. I guess all these years of attending concerts every other week has really fine tuned Vivek’s ears. Respect. Incidentally with my previous Berning amp, both jls001 and audiopro too liked the J position the best
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