Sorry to hear about the troubles with your Sony panel. The only TV that i have had that has worked flawlessly till date is the Sony W800 that i got way way back in 2012. Its picture quality (barring brightness which is more or less at the same level as OLED panels) is still very competent nearly 10 years later and i just hope the new X9500G i recently purchased hasn't lost any of the legendary Sony quality and robustness. Having said that, i was both rudely shocked and pleasantly surprised by my experience with MI- rude shock coming in the way of my MI TV 4X 65 giving up on me twice within two years which was thankfully within the warranty period so no expense there; the pleasant surprise being that MI has replaced the panel promptly on both occassions. In fact, the first time my TV conked off, they replaced it with an entirely new TV within 2 days of having raised the complaint. The second time, they replaced the panel which took 4 days from having raised the complaint. In fact, my experience with their service centers for mi phones has also been rather positive with resolutions offered within the same day replacement of parts. Considering the presence they have in India and now globally, i'll be surprised if they let their customer experience falter much. Who knows, It could very well be the Sony of tomorrow.
Xiaomi to launch Mi TV Q1 75" on 23rd March - QLED, 192 Zones, 120Hz
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Donivlapog
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9500G is a gem. A product of extremely well crafted masterpiece grade. Its father 9400D/E and before that it's grandfather 9300E were also unmatched full array beasts and why I had the frame dimming model, edgelit but flush hanging piece of portrait 9300D, less blooming beauty with 2000 nits brightness, and great deep contrast could pass for OLEDs.
Sony vintage is in 9x00 series. Anything below are like just plain ordinary.
Tried Hotstar 4k contents on Fire TV Stick 4K but got this error:
"Playback Error
Error playing this content due to media services being unavailable on your device. Please restart your device and try again. (PL-1100)"
Then I used Mi TV hotstar app and it works great.
I used to get this error on Nvidea Shield when auto-refresh rate switching is enabled.
geekymusiclover
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Strange. Try raising this issue with hotstar. Also see if this of some help:-
Thanks.
There is some issue with Fire TV Stick also so can not say the problem is with hotstar with 100% confidence.
In Fire TV Stick, If I select video resolution "Auto", I don't get 4K in any app including youtube (maximun available resolution is 1080p).
If I select 2160p 60 or 50 Hz, I get 4k in youtube and Amazon Prime but Hotstar gives me above error.
Since Hotstar is working fine in 4K in Mi TV app, I have left experimenting.
Globetrot
Member
I've compared both and the 75" is significantly bigger and hence better. If we can get a decently priced 85" I'd buy that too. For TVs, definitely "bigger is better".
Same answer as above.
If the table top is completely horizontal, the TV should be completely vertical. Anything other than that is a call to the service center.
The SD 480p content wont look pretty, but Tata Sky HD content or even 720p upscaled looks very smooth and nice.
sandeepmohan
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Their customer service is definitely great. However; there is little use if they replace one lemon with another lemon. At the end of the day, that's still frustration for you as the problem isn't being sorted. They have a good track records with phones. I have less confidence with consumer durables or AV. As they buy parts from all over, assemble and sell them to us. There is little know-how for fixing or identifying issues at a component level. I am not sure to what degree they trace back issues to the component manufacturer. This is a bit easier with the more established players as they have been in the business for long and there is a process in place to go about it.
That's where brand premium comes in. One needs to decide whether they want peace of mind or go with a coin flip. With Mi stuff, it's definitely a coin flip. Two failures within a span of two years is pretty atrocious. Not that the bigger brands are immune to it but the frequency is a lot lesser, at least in my experience. Thankfully they've done after sales right while other brands budget brands skimp. Definitely a necessity but also worthwhile to go for the extended warranty with them.
SteveRPenny
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Ended up getting a LG C1 - it's light years ahead of the Xiaomi in every single aspect.
Globetrot
Member
Do share some screenshots or notes of what you find better!
codwapeace
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What size? How much does it cost in Finland?
sandeepmohan
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Good choice.
Honestly, its unfair to compare the two.
Globetrot
Member
What's the comparison of the price, technology and size of the MiTV Q1 vs. the LG C1 in your country?
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Not really... In fact, not at all.
I have a Mi 4X 65" which was released some 3 years ago as well as the current LG G1 65".
Firstly, the LG G1 is downright disappointing and seems light years behind the Mi 65" when it comes to the UI. The UI of the Mi is snappier and near instantaneous whereas the LG G1 is supremely laggy and at times, downright infuriating. While a person's brain may adjust to the LG's slow interface, its hard to do so when you are living alongside the Mi 4X 65" plus a Sony x9500G 65" which I daresay is even more fluid.
Then comes upscaling. With 1080P content on Youtube, the Mi does a perceptibly better job than the LG G1.
Third comes peace of mind. Since i use my G1 as my PC's display and watch a lot of news, i'm constantly worried about burn in, so much so that i consciously play varied content, despite having no inclination whatsoever to do so, simply to get the screen moving.
Fourth comes image retention - when moving from one static screen to another (mostly if not entirely in PC use case scnearios), there's visible image retention for a good 4-5 seconds from time to time. While such image retention is infrequent and disappears as soon as you get the image on the screen moving, it is very much noticeable in the aforementioned scenario i mentioned.
Fifth is the infurating care settings that recommend i turn off the screen for 5 minutes to allow pixel cleaning when i switch on the TV from time to time. Why would i want to turn off my TV for 5 minutes when I'd turned it on to consume some content right away? but then, not doing so brings the aforementioned anxiety of burn-in.
It may not be correct to dismiss the mighty mouse that is Mi, especially in a comparison against an LG Oled.
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sandeepmohan
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You've conveniently put down all flaws and forgotten about how good the G1 is as a display.
I find it hard to believe that WebOS has lag or is laggy. Its one of the most intuitive user interfaces ever on a TV.
Burn in is not limited to the G1. Its across all Oled's (even some led-lcd). If thats a problem for you and your use case, you don't buy Oled. That said, good luck finding anything better than your G1 when it comes to TV that can work well as a gaming display. Its not often you find something like this.
If you look hard for image retention you're going to find it. I don't see this as a defect or flaw.
I mean, seriously, we're talking apples and oranges here. A flagship, top notch display versus an Mi!
shriharsha.p
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Folks, was away for some time due to professional commitments. Xiaomi provided a 4th replacement TV after i changed my AVR to a Denon from my previous Yamaha. To provide some context, my old Yamaha AVR was having HDMI EDID issues with the TV, causing the TV HDMI ports to conk out (please refer to my previous posts). All features are working as expected including eARC (though I don't use this feature). My queries to the forum members:
1. Since I use a Harmony hub to control my various HT components, I have added the Mi TV as a Xiaomi set top box. This offers only basic power on/off control using the Harmony hub. Has anyone been able to add the TV to Harmony so as to get additional control options?
2. Sometimes, as is the case with Harmony, all components don't get switched on. The TV has a particularly annoying feature of switching to the default TV patchwall home screen if no signal is detected. Is there a way to disable this feature? This is important since after retriggering the Harmony activity using help, the TV stays on the last known input, which, in this case would be the default TV patchwall homescreen
Cheers
Harsha
1. Since I use a Harmony hub to control my various HT components, I have added the Mi TV as a Xiaomi set top box. This offers only basic power on/off control using the Harmony hub. Has anyone been able to add the TV to Harmony so as to get additional control options?
2. Sometimes, as is the case with Harmony, all components don't get switched on. The TV has a particularly annoying feature of switching to the default TV patchwall home screen if no signal is detected. Is there a way to disable this feature? This is important since after retriggering the Harmony activity using help, the TV stays on the last known input, which, in this case would be the default TV patchwall homescreen
Cheers
Harsha
Not at all. I was simply responding to @SteveRPenny's observation that the C1 was better in every single respect. It isn't. I haven't forgotten or am overlooking the LG G1's strengths. That's already been beaten to death. In fact, I got the G1 for its strengths i.e. Good response times, perfect blacks, VRR and colours). However, since i have lived with both TVs for some time now, i thought of sharing what the Mi did better, especially in view of the carte blanche statement that the C1 was better in every single respect.
There are some things that are belief and can be true depending on the person. WebOS being intuitive is one of them. Its subjective. Who am I to say one interface is better than the other? I don't consider it to be so. But that's my opinion.
What is not opinion or in the realm of belief is lag. Its there. And its very palpable. Menus take a good second or two more to open than the Mi 4X 65" as well as the Sony X9500G. I believe 'lag' is an appropriate term to describe a situation when a function on screen takes a percentible time to respond after you've pressed a button on the remote instead of being instantaneous. As i frequently keep changing settings for picture calibration, sound, inputs etc., that extra second or two marks down the experience.
Now, whether lag marks down the experience is subjective. For me, it does as I am used to much faster menu response times.
Menu response times amongst my current TVs in the order of hierarchy is as follows: Sony X9500G>Sony W800>Mi 4X(became slower when the panel was replaced but still faster than the LG G1)>LG G1.
When it comes to being intuitive, in my humble opinion, its the Sony X9500G>Mi 4X>LG G1>Sony W800 (Though both the Sony X9500G and Mi have Android TV, the Sony has a better layout when it comes to the settings in my opinion and allows greater flexibility without adding to the complexity. The G1 relies too much on going back and forth between sub menus to change picture settings and is plagued with slow response times to boot. However, its not unintuitive. The W800 has very fast menu response times but is a bit unintuitive and complicated for my tiny brain - it explodes every single time i try to change a setting).
Again, im not trying to attack LG or for that matter, the G1 or C1 or OLEDS in general. I am very well aware of burn in issues on all OLEDs. But is it a limitation compared to LCD-LEDs since burn is a thing of the past for them? I believe so.
In fact, i got the Sony X9500G after the LG G1 because of the latter's limitation regarding burn in, especially considering my use case scenario and the anxiety that comes along with it (Also, because i wanted a bright panel which the G1 wasn't). While I initially thought that burn in wouldn't be an issue considering picture shift, logo dimming, so on and so forth, however, after i saw on the Rtings youtube channel that burn in happened despite a moving picture (it was news), my anxiety levels, which i underestimated initially, grew further and compelled the purchase of the Sony.
Why do i need a better gaming display? I have the G1
. If this thing costs as much as it does and does not deliver on that front, that'd be mighty disappointing. I hope not. Well, its not disappointed so far. Have to keep a look out for those FiFa bars though - on a Rtings test, those bars were permanently burned in.Having said that, I haven't gamed on the Sony X9500G yet as it was a very recent purchase but I'll report back on how it compares to the G1. Insofar as brightness levels are concerned, the Sony is simply scintillating during HDR videos on youtube so HDR performance in games should be good as well.
I wasn't looking hard. i wasn't looking for it at all. But it was there. Very evidently so. At first, i was quite alarmed as i assumed it was burn in. You see, I had never experienced image retention on any of my TV's till the G1. However, when the image went away and i did some further investigating, I became aware of this phenomenon for the first time.
Exactly! While i expected the LG G1 to blow the Mi away in every single aspect when i first installed it, i was pleasantly surprised (and disappointed at the same time) that it did not. On the other hand, the Sony blows away the Mi in every single aspect (except the remote perhaps - could have done with a smaller one but again, thats an opinion and therefore, subjective
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